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1. 12:37 AM - Mono wheel tyre (Remi Guerner)
2. 12:47 AM - Re: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19. (Gert Dalgaard)
3. 01:44 AM - Trailer conversion (C Richardson)
4. 02:00 AM - Re: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19. (karelvranken)
5. 02:06 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 08/11/07 (David.Corbett)
6. 02:31 AM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 08/11/07 (Duncan & Ami McFadyean)
7. 03:18 AM - Re: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19. (Kurt A. Schumacher)
8. 03:45 AM - Camping in CH (Gert Dalgaard)
9. 03:45 AM - Re: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19. (Gert Dalgaard)
10. 05:48 AM - Re: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19. (R.C.Harrison)
11. 06:25 AM - Re: Re: Europa-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 08/11/07 (R.C.Harrison)
12. 07:45 AM - Re: Trailer conversion (Paul Boulet)
13. 10:54 AM - Last of the Summer Wine (bryan allsop)
14. 11:25 AM - Re: removal of nylon outrigger legs (Niels Kock)
15. 11:35 AM - Re: Mono wheel tyre (Niels Kock)
16. 12:53 PM - Re: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19. (Kurt A. Schumacher)
17. 01:31 PM - xs Trailer (Mike Gamble)
18. 01:32 PM - XS Trailer (Mike Gamble)
19. 03:08 PM - Anyone have carb ice with intercooled 914? ()
20. 11:34 PM - Re: Anyone have carb ice with intercooled 914? (R.C.Harrison)
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Niels,
I am using the same Air Trac 8.00x6 and never had this problem. May be
this is because I always inflate to 30-35 psi. This provides a better
prop clearance and better directional control. I do not think it causes
more bouncing on landing.
I suggest you try with higher pressure.
Hope that helps.
Regards
Remi
F-PGKL, XS S/N395 monowheel, 912S, Airmaster, 510 hours
I've just put on a new mono-tyre, McReady Air-trac 8.00 x 6. pumped
to 15 psi.
It turns out that the tyre is in contact with the sides of the wheel
leg, emitting sgueals during taxy like a couple
of fighting piglets.
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Subject: | Re: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19. |
I find EAS's Internet-site quite insufficient what info about vacancy
etc. concerns.
Will write direct to their secretery, and let you know what happens.
Regards Gert
OY-GDS
Den 11/08/2007 kl. 10.04 skrev Remi Guerner:
> Karel, Gert,
> I am planning to come on Saturday, weather permitting. Do you know
> if camping is allowed on the airfield?
> Remi
> F-PGKL
>
> Saturday I will be there with my grandson Lei. I stay until sunday
> after the
> lunch to fly back to EBLE Belgium. If weather permitting...
> Hope to see you there in the crouds.
> Karel Vranken, # 447 F-PKRL
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Subject: | Trailer conversion |
Good morning all,
Has anyone converted a monowheel trailer to carry a trigear ?
I would be most interested in any details and pictures.
Please contact me off list cjh.richardson@virgin.net
Many thanks
John
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Subject: | Re: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19. |
Remi,
No idea if camping is allowed, but if tradition is respected, they
should allow the tent near the wing.
Karel Vranken.
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From: Remi Guerner
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 10:04 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19.
Karel, Gert,
I am planning to come on Saturday, weather permitting. Do you know if
camping is allowed on the airfield?
Remi
F-PGKL
Saturday I will be there with my grandson Lei. I stay until sunday
after the
lunch to fly back to EBLE Belgium. If weather permitting...
Hope to see you there in the crowds.
Karel Vranken, # 447 F-PKRL
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Subject: | RE: Europa-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 08/11/07 |
Duncan,
Just nipped it up with the ratchet - slightly more than finger tight!
David
Time: 03:46:46 AM PST US
From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 74 progress part 2
<<Any questions??!!>>
How tight did you tighten the nut, given that the instructions don't
call for it to be tightened?
Duncan McF.
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Subject: | Re: RE: Europa-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 08/11/07 |
Enough to seat it nicely, then!
Rgds.,
Duncan.
do not archive
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From: "David.Corbett" <david.corbett5@btinternet.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:06 AM
Subject: Europa-List: RE: Europa-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 08/11/07
> <david.corbett5@btinternet.com>
>
>
> Duncan,
>
> Just nipped it up with the ratchet - slightly more than finger tight!
>
> David
>
>
> Time: 03:46:46 AM PST US
> From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 74 progress part 2
>
> <<Any questions??!!>>
> How tight did you tighten the nut, given that the instructions don't
> call for it to be tightened?
>
> Duncan McF.
>
>
>
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Subject: | Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19. |
Have not received an explicit information about camping, but we know from the local
team a dedicated grass parking area is
reserved for the weekend. Thus a tent near the wing must be possible.
Glad to meet you in Lausanne.
-Kurt.
EAS Webmaster
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of karelvranken
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19.
Remi,
No idea if camping is allowed, but if tradition is respected, they should allow
the tent near the wing.
Karel Vranken.
----- Original Message -----
From: Remi Guerner <mailto:air.guerner@wanadoo.fr>
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 10:04 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19.
Karel, Gert,
I am planning to come on Saturday, weather permitting. Do you know if camping is
allowed on the airfield?
Remi
F-PGKL
Saturday I will be there with my grandson Lei. I stay until sunday after the
lunch to fly back to EBLE Belgium. If weather permitting...
Hope to see you there in the crowds.
Karel Vranken, # 447 F-PKRL
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Received the following answer from Schwitzerland.
Not much about hotels, but camping seems all right.
Gert Dalgaard
OY-GDS
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> Have not received an explicit information about camping, but we
> know from the local team a dedicated grass parking area is reserved
> for the weekend. Thus a tent near the wing must be possible.
>
>
> Glad to meet you in Lausanne.
>
>
> -Kurt.
>
> EAS Webmaster
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Subject: | Re: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19. |
Hi Kurt
And do you know anything about hotels around the airfield?
CU there!
Regards Gert
Den 12/08/2007 kl. 12.17 skrev Kurt A. Schumacher:
> Have not received an explicit information about camping, but we
> know from the local team a dedicated grass parking area is reserved
> for the weekend. Thus a tent near the wing must be possible.
>
>
> Glad to meet you in Lausanne.
>
>
> -Kurt.
>
> EAS Webmaster
>
>
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of karelvranken
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 11:08 AM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19.
>
>
> Remi,
>
> No idea if camping is allowed, but if tradition is respected, they
> should allow the tent near the wing.
>
> Karel Vranken.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Remi Guerner
>
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 10:04 AM
>
> Subject: Europa-List: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19.
>
>
> Karel, Gert,
>
> I am planning to come on Saturday, weather permitting. Do you know
> if camping is allowed on the airfield?
>
> Remi
>
> F-PGKL
>
>
> Saturday I will be there with my grandson Lei. I stay until sunday
> after the
> lunch to fly back to EBLE Belgium. If weather permitting...
> Hope to see you there in the crowds.
> Karel Vranken, # 447 F-PKRL
>
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Subject: | Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19. |
Hi!
Karel/Gert/Remi.
The Secretary is Varina Hanselman
I am copying this into her and she will probably e-mail me back, in
which case I will post it on the Europa Matronics Forum.
Unfortunately G-PTAG has still to be flight tested with the 914 Rotax so
I will be unable to come. Please pass my regards to everyone there .
Bob Harrison .
Robt.C.Harrison
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Remi
Guerner
Sent: 11 August 2007 09:05
Subject: Europa-List: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19.
Karel, Gert,
I am planning to come on Saturday, weather permitting. Do you know if
camping is allowed on the airfield?
Remi
F-PGKL
Saturday I will be there with my grandson Lei. I stay until sunday after
the
lunch to fly back to EBLE Belgium. If weather permitting...
Hope to see you there in the crouds.
Karel Vranken, # 447 F-PKRL
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Subject: | RE: Europa-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 08/11/07 |
Hi! Duncan
It will be somewhat more than finger tight if it engages the nylon lock
ring. I've never known a nyloc nut you could do up with fingers whatever
size! I've just pinched mine as they bottom on the washer well after
they engage the nylon lock. The torque to drive the pin through the
nylon lock is considerable .On the starboard wing I had to bed a
secondary piece of metal into the construction since for some error on
the alignment of the flap hinge bracket and bedded both washers into
position with redux curing over night with the lift pin well greased. On
removal of the pins I made extensive degreasing efforts.
On each location I made a small wooden hard wood wedge with a gradual
slope to measure the position of the pip pin hole and marked the C/L of
the pip pin when the wedge became tight.( ensuring it was entered from
the same direction as the marking was done initially.)
I only did one rig with redux in place and the lift pins were bang on
the right position.
My wings always needed to be held aft at the tips to fully engage the
aft lift pins and they still do.
I must confess I used Redux on the pin threads and female threads
allowing to cure overnight and the pin stayed put whilst I cranked the
nyloc nut up. (thankfully).
I'm thinking ....what if it is ever necessary to remove /change the
lift pin? This is the second time it has been changed. First conception
is a home made hexagon ring spanner from a piece of stainless sheet
suitably fixed in the hole and enclosed for ever ! It would be of
minimal weight and save much hassle in the event...........!
Regards
Bob H G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Duncan &
Ami McFadyean
Sent: 12 August 2007 10:30
Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: Europa-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 08/11/07
<ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Enough to seat it nicely, then!
Rgds.,
Duncan.
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "David.Corbett" <david.corbett5@btinternet.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:06 AM
Subject: Europa-List: RE: Europa-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 08/11/07
> <david.corbett5@btinternet.com>
>
>
> Duncan,
>
> Just nipped it up with the ratchet - slightly more than finger tight!
>
> David
>
>
> Time: 03:46:46 AM PST US
> From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 74 progress part 2
>
> <<Any questions??!!>>
> How tight did you tighten the nut, given that the instructions don't
> call for it to be tightened?
>
> Duncan McF.
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Trailer conversion |
I too would be interested in details and would think contacting the group ON list
would be beneficial to many. Thanks
Paul Boulet, Malibu CA N914PB. Been tweaking it for 7 months- should resume
test flying by october '07. Total time 25 hours on engine/airframe. Tri gear
914 engine
C Richardson <cjh.richardson@virgin.net> wrote:
Good morning all,
Has anyone converted a monowheel trailer to carry a trigear ?
I would be most interested in any details and pictures.
Please contact me off list cjh.richardson@virgin.net
Many thanks
John
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Subject: | Last of the Summer Wine |
The annual Last of the Summer Wine trip has always been organized by Willia
m Mills in the past. It has been an informal tour around various parts of F
rance, with it's destinations determined by the weather, and the feelings o
f the participants. Nothing demanding, just the joy of a few days enjoying
the environment, and a bit of flying together. We are confident that Willia
m would have wished the event to continue.
All being well we are looking at the 13th - 16th September for this trip. H
opefully the mod. situation will have been resolved by then.
Would anyone wishing to participate kindly let me know so that I can start
making the arrangements.
Regards to all.
Bryan Allsop
_________________________________________________________________
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aily. Visit now.
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Subject: | Re: removal of nylon outrigger legs |
Thanks, Jim. The increase of pressure is one of the options i've been
thinking of. Just being somewhat
reluctant to go above 20 psi, because, as John Wigney said, it might
make the landings even more interesting than
at present.
Today i splayed the legs with a jack, and after some experimenting as to
the amount of splaying, kept the
shape by positioning a 10mm steel tube between the vertical sides of the
UC leg just proximal to the tyre.
The tube was fixed with a bolt at each end. So far it seems to work
fine.
Niels
nielskock@get2net.dk
----- Original Message -----
From: jim Brown
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: removal of nylon outrigger legs
Niels
Try puting 25 or 30 psi in the tire.
The original tire supplied with my kit was also the old 800 x 6. I
operate off a paved runway and the tires rubbed the sides of the gear
legs on landing. The higher pressure gave me a little extra clearance
between the gear leg and the tire. I replaced that tire with a 700 x6
6ply rating. It makes the a/c ground handling much better.
Jim Brown
N398JB
----- Original Message -----
From: Niels Kock
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: removal of nylon outrigger legs
Remi.
I encountered the same problem in a similar situation. Your
intellect will not serve you well
here, you have to resort to brute force:
Put a bolt fitting the axle holes of the fork through the 2 holes.
The bolt must be long enough to extend
at least 3-4 centimeters either side of the wheel fork.
Then strike the bolt with many small strikes parallel to the leg, on
alternate sides of the fork,
and you will see the fork moving gradually off the leg. At least I
did.
Now, I have a problem:
I've just put on a new mono-tyre, McReady Air-trac 8.00 x 6. pumped
to 15 psi.
It turns out that the tyre is in contact with the sides of the wheel
leg, emitting sgueals during taxy like a couple
of fighting piglets.
It is not only the pensive looks from stewardesses and other
impression-worthy groups connected to
aviation that bothers me, when I pass them by, squealing insanely,
it is also the palpable temperature of the
sides of the tyre after taxying to the hangar.
Imagine the loss of face and money, if the squealing progress comes
to an abrupt halt with an almighty
thunderclap from a burst inner tube in front of an awe-struck
crowd!
Apart from parting with another 100 =A3 buying a 7.00 x 6 tyre, is
there any possibility of splaying the UC-leg
about one mm each side? I already have untightened the central bolt
through the hub a couple of threads.
To no avail.
Any suggestions?
Niels Kock
OY-ODA
Mono Classic
----- Original Message -----
From: Remi Guerner
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 6:51 PM
Subject: Europa-List: removal of nylon outrigger legs
Hello all,
I just received my monowheel speed kit. I tried to remove the
outrigger OR3 fork to install the fairings. No way. Then I tried to
remove the nylon leg from OR1. Impossible. May be the nylon has
expanded with aging . Any suggestion ?
Remi Guerner
F-PGKL, XS S/N395 monowheel, 912S, Airmaster, 510 hours
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Subject: | Re: Mono wheel tyre |
Hi Remi
If what I described in my reply to Jim Brown should prove to be unsactisfa
ctory, I certainly
will go for the high pressure. It would, of course, have been a much simple
r solution to start with.
But let's see how it turns out.
Niels
----- Original Message -----
From: Remi Guerner
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 9:35 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Mono wheel tyre
Niels,
I am using the same Air Trac 8.00x6 and never had this problem. May be th
is is because I always inflate to 30-35 psi. This provides a better prop cl
earance and better directional control. I do not think it causes more bounc
ing on landing.
I suggest you try with higher pressure.
Hope that helps.
Regards
Remi
F-PGKL, XS S/N395 monowheel, 912S, Airmaster, 510 hours
I've just put on a new mono-tyre, McReady Air-trac 8.00 x 6. pumped
to 15 psi.
It turns out that the tyre is in contact with the sides of the wheel
leg, emitting sgueals during taxy like a couple
of fighting piglets.
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Subject: | Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19. |
Hello Gert,
All,
Any class of accommodation available around Lausanne Le Blecherette airfield. The
local EAS team will take care of all EAS Fly-In
friends looking for a hotel of the preferred class on demand on-site.
If you like to place a reservation - probably at a special place (and there are
plenty in Lausanne and along the Lake of Geneva!)
contact direct http://www.lausanne-tourisme.ch/ . Will you guide more old friends from Denmark to Switzerland again?
Have a safe flight!
-Kurt.
PS. Bob, no worries - there will be two nice Rallies in Switzerland next year,
one in spring, one in summer; too!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gert Dalgaard
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19.
Hi Kurt
And do you know anything about hotels around the airfield?
CU there!
Regards Gert
Den 12/08/2007 kl. 12.17 skrev Kurt A. Schumacher:
> Have not received an explicit information about camping, but we
> know from the local team a dedicated grass parking area is reserved
> for the weekend. Thus a tent near the wing must be possible.
>
>
> Glad to meet you in Lausanne.
>
>
> -Kurt.
>
> EAS Webmaster
>
>
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-
> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of karelvranken
> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 11:08 AM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19.
>
>
> Remi,
>
> No idea if camping is allowed, but if tradition is respected, they
> should allow the tent near the wing.
>
> Karel Vranken.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Remi Guerner
>
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>
> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 10:04 AM
>
> Subject: Europa-List: Switzerland, EAS Fly-In August, 17. - 19.
>
>
> Karel, Gert,
>
> I am planning to come on Saturday, weather permitting. Do you know
> if camping is allowed on the airfield?
>
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I'm still looking for a Trailer for my XS mono.
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I am in Camberley, UK and getting ready for painting.
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Mike
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I'm still looking for a Trailer for my XS mono.
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I am in Camberley, UK and getting ready for painting.
Thanks
Mike
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Subject: | Anyone have carb ice with intercooled 914? |
Has anyone ever experianced carb ice on a intercooled 914?
See attached PDF chapter 18.
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Subject: | Anyone have carb ice with intercooled 914? |
Hi! Ron
My current assessment is that it is unlikely. I believe the uplift of
the ingoing air temperature is quite high without an intercooler from
info. provided by others. I'm expecting in the region of a drop of 20
deg summer and 25 deg. winter
But from the original figures there's still lots of temperature put in
the air by the turbo.
However since it's the venturi effect and humidity which causes the
icing on the carb throat until mine flies in the next two weeks I won't
be sure.
It is a very relevant consideration, a friend pranged on Saturday, he
had been thermaling ,engine off (not a Europa) re-started to land and
decended maintaining 200deg on his cylinder heads when he needed the
throttle to clear power lines to land the engine quit. Finished up in a
sweet corn/maize field totalled but both walked away. That's in the UK
with present humidity levels ! So much attention needs applying when
doing mods 73 and 74.
Regards
Bob H G-PTAG
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Subject: Europa-List: Anyone have carb ice with intercooled 914?
Has anyone ever experianced carb ice on a intercooled 914?
See attached PDF chapter 18.
Rotax has updated website:
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Ron Parigoris
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