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1. 12:04 AM - Re: Fuel System (karelvranken)
2. 12:34 AM - Re: Fuel System (JohnDHeykoop@aol.com)
3. 01:03 AM - Another test message (Richard Lamprey)
4. 02:34 AM - Re: Trim Tab drive pins (Jeremy Davey)
5. 03:38 AM - Re: Trim Tab drive pins (Kingsley Hurst)
6. 04:15 AM - Re: Trim Tab drive pins (Jeremy Davey)
7. 06:55 AM - Re: Stade Fly-In Sept. 1-2 (N.T. Groot)
8. 10:43 AM - Something to do next weekend (Raimo Toivio)
9. 10:54 AM - Re: Another test message (Brian Davies)
10. 01:09 PM - Last of the Summer Wine (bryan allsop)
11. 01:28 PM - ()
12. 02:24 PM - Re: Last of the Summer Wine (Brian Hutchinson)
13. 02:43 PM - Re: Last of the Summer Wine (Brian Hutchinson)
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Paul,
If not asked to much, you may send it also to me:
karelvranken@hotmail.com
I have nearly the same configuration for my fuel system.
Thank you.
Karel.
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From: dvdpar@aol.com
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel System
Paul,
Thanks for that, Could you let me have your info.
dvdpar@aol.com
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11.19pm
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel System
Dave
I have a fuel system partially as you describe which has a PFA
approval as a formal mod. It is a one off for G-GIDY - as far as I'm
aware there is no club mod. I doubt the PFA would consider anything to
do with the fuel system as anything other than a formal mod application.
There are some pictures on the owners forum. I would be happy to show
you the information I supplied to the PFA if it would help.
While you would still need to apply to the PFA on their mod form,
approval of similar mods on other aircraft can be of help.
Regards
Paul
I have installed my fuel system xx months ago in the belief that
scrapping the two Europa Filters in the cockpit and replacing them with
a single Andair Gascolator under the rear baggage shelf together with
the pump will be OK. The supply is from the 'two tanks' to an Andair
Selector taking one line to the Gascolator then to the pump. I think
other builders have done similar things.
I was wondering if there is a Official or Club MOD. for this type of
system (Can not find one) or is it considered a Minor Mod.? that will be
ok'd by the Inspector?
Dave Park Bld 371. (90%?? Engine on the way)
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Paul
Also a copy to me please: _johndheykoop@aol.com_
(mailto:johndheykoop@aol.com)
I have the same fuel system.
Many thanks
John Heykoop
In a message dated 24/08/2007 08:05:33 GMT Standard Time,
karelvranken@hotmail.com writes:
Paul,
If not asked to much, you may send it also to me: _karelvranken@hotmail.com_
(mailto:karelvranken@hotmail.com)
I have nearly the same configuration for my fuel system.
Thank you.
Karel.
----- Original Message -----
From: _dvdpar@aol.com_ (mailto:dvdpar@aol.com)
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 12:59 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel System
Paul,
Thanks for that, Could you let me have your info.
_dvdpar@aol.com_ (mailto:dvdpar@aol.com)
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Stewart <_europa@pstewart.f2s.com_
(mailto:europa@pstewart.f2s.com) >
Sent: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11.19pm
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel System
Dave
I have a fuel system partially as you describe which has a PFA approval as a
formal mod. It is a one off for G-GIDY - as far as I'm aware there is no
club mod. I doubt the PFA would consider anything to do with the fuel system as
anything other than a formal mod application. There are some pictures on the
owners forum. I would be happy to show you the information I supplied to the
PFA if it would help.
While you would still need to apply to the PFA on their mod form, approval
of similar mods on other aircraft can be of help.
Regards
Paul
I have installed my fuel system xx months ago in the belief that scrapping
the two Europa Filters in the cockpit and replacing them with a single Andair
Gascolator under the rear baggage shelf together with the pump will be OK.
The supply is from the 'two tanks' to an Andair Selector taking one line to the
Gascolator then to the pump. I think other builders have done similar things.
I was wondering if there is a Official or Club MOD. for this type of system
(Can not find one) or is it considered a Minor Mod.? that will be ok'd by
the Inspector?
Dave Park Bld 371. (90%?? Engine on the way)
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| Subject: | Another test message |
Another test, this message from East Africa
Richard
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| Subject: | Trim Tab drive pins |
Kingsley,
Not a mod - a requirement in the build manual! :-) I went a step further on
mine and implemented a single piece of ply with an elongated hole - that way
it sets the skin separation and holds it.
Kind regards,
Jeremy
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kingsley Hurst
Sent: 24 August 2007 05:34
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trim Tab drive pins
Creighton
Do you have a couple of pieces of plywood (or similar) inside the rear of
the fuse just ahead of the "T" bar slot to limit the sideways movement of
the "T" bar on assembly and disassembly of the tailplanes ? The two guides
should have minimum gap between them but still be wide enough to allow full
and free movement of the 'T' bar throughout full deflection of the
tailplanes.
I don't remember this ever being a mod but was certainly a recommended
suggestion. I'm sure it will save your having to employ a second person as
you suggested below.
Regards
Kingsley in Oz.
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Creighton Smith
Sent: Friday, 24 August 2007 1:13 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Trim Tab drive pins
Good morning all,
We installed the larger/stronger mod of the TP16P & TP16S drive pins (which
doesn't seem to be listed in the current mods list) per instructions and
with just a few on/off cycles of the horizontal stabilizers, each has
cracked where the 3 layers bid wrap 90deg around the front.
This appears to be a result of the TS05 link rod cocking upon removal and
jamming the drive pins in the TS06 bushes (which are a lovely fit) which
results in a racking load jamming the drive pins.
Obviously we have to do this again (irritating as the originals exhibited no
such symptoms), but I must know if anyone else has experienced this, and
what the solution might be.
Stationing a second person at the tail to ensure the link rod does not
deviate from perpendicular to the drive pins while the tailplanes are being
pulled is obvious but a bit labor intensive.
Regards,
Creighton Smith A036
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| Subject: | Re: Trim Tab drive pins |
MessageJeremy,
> Not a mod - a requirement in the build manual! :-)
It may be a requirement in the later build manuals but I'm sure it is
not in my Classic manual. I think I remember seeing it mentioned in
some Tech Talk article yonks ago.
Irrespective, it seems Creighton may not have it installed which is the
crux of the point I was trying to make.
Regards
Kingsley
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| Subject: | Trim Tab drive pins |
Ahhhh... Good point!
Cheers,
Jeremy
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kingsley Hurst
Sent: 24 August 2007 11:37
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trim Tab drive pins
Jeremy,
> Not a mod - a requirement in the build manual! :-)
It may be a requirement in the later build manuals but I'm sure it is not in
my Classic manual. I think I remember seeing it mentioned in some Tech Talk
article yonks ago.
Irrespective, it seems Creighton may not have it installed which is the crux
of the point I was trying to make.
Regards
Kingsley
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| Subject: | Stade Fly-In Sept. 1-2 |
Dear Erich,
We will come at Stade airfield on Saturday 1 September with my Europa (322)
Please can you arrange for me in the hotel nearby a room with two single beds for
the night Saturday
With regards, Nico Groot
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Verzonden: zaterdag 14 juli 2007 12:49
Aan: europa-list@matronics.com
Onderwerp: Europa-List: Stade Fly-In Sept. 1-2
The Europa Fly-In in Stade (EDHS, near Hamburg) this year will take place Saturday
to Sunday, September 1 to 2. Together with the local flying club Luftsportverein
Guenther Grnhoff we would be glad to meet as many Europa flyers and friends
as possible to come. We will have dinner on Saturday evening in nearby Agathenburg
as usual. Accomodation can also be provided upon request. Please inform
us on participation per email (see below) so we can make adequate provisions.
Erich Gabbe, Kit no 91, still building
Europa91@gmx.de
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Something to do next weekend |
Hi All Dear Europa Lovers!
One real pro - Mr. Mikko Maliniemi - took some
advanced Europa OH-XRT pictures.
He promised me to share those pics to you.
Be my guest and click (if you haven=B4t anything
better to do)
http://mmniemi.aviation.fi/jami_07/europa/
to see them. I wish you enjoy them!
Note: you are of course allowed to save them
or what so ever but if you are going to publish
them, please ask direct him
mmniemi@dlc.fi
to get a permission to do so.
I have also some extraordinary A2A pics.
Would you like to see them also?
Best Regards, Raimo
===============
some Europa aerobatics next week
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Fax 03 3753 100
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| Subject: | Another test message |
Hi Richard,
Good to hear you are alive and well in deepest East Africa.
Brian Davies (ex Kenya Airways)
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Lamprey
Sent: 24 August 2007 09:00
Subject: Europa-List: Another test message
Another test, this message from East Africa
Richard
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| Subject: | Last of the Summer Wine |
Hi Folks, We now have half a dozen aircraft intending to participate in thi
s trip. There is room for a couple more. You will be reassured to learn tha
t the 10 hour tail plane check will present no problems. The PFA have given
me temporary Tail Plane Inspector status for the trip, and we have a PFA i
nspector with us as well. It is worth coming along for the free checkouts,
if nothing else. We have had a couple of good suggestions for places to go,
and we are all set for the 13th. September. Please contact me by e-mail if
you are intending to come along. Bryan Allsop
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| Subject: | Last of the Summer Wine |
Hi Bryan
It's a sad fact of life. nothing happens for months and then it all happens
at once. I'd very much love to be taking you up on your kind offer of a
seat in Sadie, but I've promised to take Jane to the N.York Moors that week
to celebrate her half-century birthday. What a bummer. There are times
when being completely independent has its advantages. you can be greedy and
do everything you want! Sadly on this occasion it's not the case. I hope
you have a great trip. I'll be thinking of you as we walk round the gardens
in Harrogate!!!!!
Brian H
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bryan allsop
Sent: 24 August 2007 21:08
Subject: Europa-List: Last of the Summer Wine
Hi Folks,
We now have half a dozen aircraft intending to participate in this trip.
There is room for a couple more.
You will be reassured to learn that the 10 hour tail plane check will
present no problems. The PFA have given me temporary Tail Plane Inspector
status for the trip, and we have a PFA inspector with us as well. It is
worth coming along for the free checkouts, if nothing else.
We have had a couple of good suggestions for places to go, and we are all
set for the 13th. September.
Please contact me by e-mail if you are intending to come along.
Bryan Allsop
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| Subject: | Last of the Summer Wine |
Apologies everyone. I'd clicked "send" a microsecond too quick. This wasn't
meant for the Forum!!
Brian Hutchinson
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian
Hutchinson
Sent: 24 August 2007 22:24
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Last of the Summer Wine
Hi Bryan
It's a sad fact of life. nothing happens for months and then it all happens
at once. I'd very much love to be taking you up on your kind offer of a
seat in Sadie, but I've promised to take Jane to the N.York Moors that week
to celebrate her half-century birthday. What a bummer. There are times
when being completely independent has its advantages. you can be greedy and
do everything you want! Sadly on this occasion it's not the case. I hope
you have a great trip. I'll be thinking of you as we walk round the gardens
in Harrogate!!!!!
Brian H
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bryan allsop
Sent: 24 August 2007 21:08
Subject: Europa-List: Last of the Summer Wine
Hi Folks,
We now have half a dozen aircraft intending to participate in this trip.
There is room for a couple more.
You will be reassured to learn that the 10 hour tail plane check will
present no problems. The PFA have given me temporary Tail Plane Inspector
status for the trip, and we have a PFA inspector with us as well. It is
worth coming along for the free checkouts, if nothing else.
We have had a couple of good suggestions for places to go, and we are all
set for the 13th. September.
Please contact me by e-mail if you are intending to come along.
Bryan Allsop
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