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1. 01:10 AM - Re: XS Wing Query (steve v)
2. 04:59 AM - Re: XS Wing Query (JEFF ROBERTS)
3. 09:24 AM - Re: XS Wing Query (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
4. 09:59 AM - Re: XS Wing Query (Gary Leinberger)
5. 11:24 AM - Re: XS Wing Query (Simon Smith)
6. 11:38 AM - Re: Broken Mag wire (Graham Singleton)
7. 11:47 AM - Re: XS Wing Query (Gary Leinberger)
8. 12:47 PM - G-PTAG gets it up again ! Special note to most about pitot snap connectors and perrished "o" rings too. (R.C.Harrison)
9. 01:21 PM - Was Re: Broken Mag wire ....Now Beer rants! (R.C.Harrison)
10. 03:12 PM - Re: XS Wing Query (Fred Klein)
11. 05:07 PM - Re: G-PTAG gets it up again ! (Kingsley Hurst)
12. 05:14 PM - Re: Was Re: Broken Mag wire ....Now Beer rants! (Graham Singleton)
13. 05:18 PM - Re: XS Wing Query (Graham Singleton)
14. 05:29 PM - Re: Broken Mag wire (Kingsley Hurst)
15. 05:33 PM - Re: Was Re: Broken Mag wire ....Now Beer rants! (Kingsley Hurst)
16. 05:44 PM - Re: XS Wing Query (JEFF ROBERTS)
17. 06:46 PM - Re: XS Wing Query (Fred Klein)
18. 07:47 PM - Re: XS Wing Query (JEFF ROBERTS)
19. 10:41 PM - Re: XS Wing Query (Steve Pitt)
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| Subject: | Re: XS Wing Query |
Well thats exactly how i get in - by sitting on the leading edge and swinging
in, untill i took a 16 stone passenger down the the scilly isles last monday and
noticed the section between the leading edge and the spar flexing conciderably
with his weight on there,
thanks bill and sue - looks like ill stick to the way its meant to be.
steve vestuti G-CEBV #573
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| Subject: | Re: XS Wing Query |
Is there another way to get in? I always sit on the wing and throw my
feet in.
Jeff R.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 84 hours and climbing slowly.
On Aug 29, 2007, at 3:09 AM, steve v wrote:
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> Well thats exactly how i get in - by sitting on the leading edge and
> swinging in, untill i took a 16 stone passenger down the the scilly
> isles last monday and noticed the section between the leading edge and
> the spar flexing conciderably with his weight on there,
> thanks bill and sue - looks like ill stick to the way its meant to be.
>
> steve vestuti G-CEBV #573
>
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> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
>
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| Subject: | Re: XS Wing Query |
In a message dated 8/29/2007 1:17:08 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
s.vestuti@virgin.net writes:
a 16 stone passenger
For the rest of the world.....that's about 225 lbs or a little over 100
kilos.
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Mike Duane A207A
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
Jabiru 3300
Sensenich R64Z N
Ground Adjustable Prop
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You mean a proper sized person?
Gary Leinberger
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Subject: Re: Europa-List: XS Wing Query
In a message dated 8/29/2007 1:17:08 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
s.vestuti@virgin.net writes:
a 16 stone passenger
For the rest of the world.....that's about 225 lbs or a little over 100
kilos.
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Mike Duane A207A
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
Jabiru 3300
Sensenich R64Z N
Ground Adjustable Prop
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It might be "standard" for the left side of the pond but on this side it
would qualify as a "fat Bast/*d" by 40lbs+!
Simon
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Sent: 29 August 2007 17:58
Subject: RE: Europa-List: XS Wing Query
You mean a proper sized person?
Gary Leinberger
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Subject: Re: Europa-List: XS Wing Query
In a message dated 8/29/2007 1:17:08 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
s.vestuti@virgin.net writes:
a 16 stone passenger
For the rest of the world.....that's about 225 lbs or a little over 100
kilos.
Do Not Archive
Mike Duane A207A
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
Jabiru 3300
Sensenich R64Z N
Ground Adjustable Prop
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| Subject: | Re: Broken Mag wire |
Kingsley ole mate
that's a matter of a pinion or two! btw four ex- what?
Graham
Kingsley Hurst wrote:
> Staffordshire
> beer. (just about equal to Slovakian beer, the real Budweiser! )
> Graham
>
> It's got nothing on our XXXX (pronounced Fourex) Graham, XXXX will make
> a sparrow fight an Emu ! !
>
> Cheers
> Kingsley
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We refer to it as manly - which I realize on your side of the pond is
characterized by Field Marshall Bernard Montgomery - we like Rambo - at
least there is more action.
gl
(Tongue firmly in cheek)
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Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 2:22 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: XS Wing Query
It might be "standard" for the left side of the pond but on this side it
would qualify as a "fat Bast/*d" by 40lbs+!
Simon
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Leinberger
Sent: 29 August 2007 17:58
Subject: RE: Europa-List: XS Wing Query
You mean a proper sized person?
Gary Leinberger
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Subject: Re: Europa-List: XS Wing Query
In a message dated 8/29/2007 1:17:08 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
s.vestuti@virgin.net writes:
a 16 stone passenger
For the rest of the world.....that's about 225 lbs or a little over 100
kilos.
Do Not Archive
Mike Duane A207A
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
Jabiru 3300
Sensenich R64Z N
Ground Adjustable Prop
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| Subject: | G-PTAG gets it up again ! Special note to most about pitot |
snap connectors and perrished "o" rings too.
Hi! All,
Pleased to report that after 18 months grounded "Me and my bird got it
up" today. First landing was a little rusty especially since I hadn't
thought to do a stall test to prove the ASI was good so landed a little
fast, second was fair but the nose came off as a secondary lift was
caught in time.
Quite a learning curve knowing where the power is, compared with the
noise of the Jabiru Six etc. but I expect I'll get used to it! Thrilled
to find the temperatures are all good .especially with the massive
changes to the front of the cowl and the barrel hood fitted.
Just a note to other Europa operators:-
My ASI problem was partly due to a disturbed pitot pipe connection, but
also importantly to note that the "o" rings on the pitot pipe connectors
at the wing fitment were badly perished, only really identifiable by
removing them but not without a replacement to hand!
The size of the "o" rings for 1/8" connectors is :- 3/16" ID 5/16"OD
making a sectional diameter of 1/16" for the rubber. There will be a
dozen or so in the "assortment " box held by any hydraulics or
pneumatics outfit. Suggest the club gets a supply provisioned. IMHO an
annual inspection should remove these rings and put them under a
magnifying glass considering how important the instrument is to safe
landing. Mine must be 10 years old with the kit being collected in 1997
plus however long on Europa's shelf!
Smile is beginning to break out ..!
Regards
Bob H G-PTAG
Robt.C.Harrison
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| Subject: | Broken Mag wire ....Now Beer rants! |
Hi! Graham,
Bet Kingsley would be legless on two halves of my "Scottish Crofters
Home Brewed Barley Ale" anyway, I was always told to give my best friend
two and my worst enemy three !
Bob h
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham
Singleton
Sent: 29 August 2007 19:35
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| Subject: | Re: XS Wing Query |
On Wednesday, August 29, 2007, at 04:58 AM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
> I always sit on the wing and throw my feet in.
What happens next Jeff?
Fred
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| Subject: | G-PTAG gets it up again ! |
Hey Bob ! How long did you stay up ?
You are not a glider pilot like I am are you ? we stay up longer !
Great to know it is a goer again Bob. Good on ya mate !
Best regards
Kingsley
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| Subject: | Re: Broken Mag wire ....Now Beer rants! |
Bob!
glad to hear you're flying again, fly far and safe.
I don't believe these Ozmericans know much about quality booze,
Kingsley admitted to enjoying Staffordshire beer when he was here, was
he just being diplomatic? Wonder why he has to recommend 4X? when
Pedigree is around?
G
R.C.Harrison wrote:
>
> Hi! Graham,
> Bet Kingsley would be legless on two halves of my "Scottish Crofters
> Home Brewed Barley Ale" anyway, I was always told to give my best friend
> two and my worst enemy three !
> Bob h
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>
>
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| Subject: | Re: XS Wing Query |
He has to lift his body in!
That's the way I did it when Thomas Scherer took me flying a few weeks
after my big mistake. (not accepting a controlled crash)
I had lost 35lbs from a fitish 170 lbs so there wasn't too much to lift.
Fred Klein wrote:
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 29, 2007, at 04:58 AM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
>
>> I always sit on the wing and throw my feet in.
>
>
> What happens next Jeff?
>
> Fred
>
>
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Tel: +441629820187
Mob: +447739582005
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> Kingsley ole mate
that's a matter of a pinion or two! btw four ex- what?
Bitter ale mate, bitter ale.
I'll introduce it to you when you come over next time.
Cheers
K
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| Subject: | Broken Mag wire ....Now Beer rants! |
> Bet Kingsley would be legless on two halves of my "Scottish Crofters
Home Brewed Barley Ale" anyway,
You had your chance a couple of months ago Bob. Probably would have
gone down well with that Bar-b-que and who knows? I might have been able
to do a corroboree for you instead of throwing the boomerang !
Cheers
K
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| Subject: | Re: XS Wing Query |
That depends on my wife's mood ;0
Do not archive this... Please
Jeff
On Aug 29, 2007, at 5:11 PM, Fred Klein wrote:
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>
> On Wednesday, August 29, 2007, at 04:58 AM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
>
>> I always sit on the wing and throw my feet in.
>
> What happens next Jeff?
>
> Fred
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| Subject: | Re: XS Wing Query |
Jeff,
I appreciate your sense of humor...but, my question was a serious one.
With the trigear, do you still end up sitting on top of the head rest
while entering/exiting, or are other gymnastics involved?
Fred
>>
>>> I always sit on the wing and throw my feet in.
>>
>> What happens next Jeff?
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| Subject: | Re: XS Wing Query |
Sorry Fred, I couldn't resist the fun. Yes I sit on the headrest and
slid in. When I saw this thread I wondered if someone had a better way
but I'm following the lead of most tri-flyers. Sit on the wing, lift
the but to the headrest then slid in. If there is a better way I'm all
ears.
Best Regards,
Jeff R.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 90 hours and climbing slowly.
On Aug 29, 2007, at 8:43 PM, Fred Klein wrote:
>
> Jeff,
>
> I appreciate your sense of humor...but, my question was a serious one.
> With the trigear, do you still end up sitting on top of the head rest
> while entering/exiting, or are other gymnastics involved?
>
> Fred
>
>>>
>>>> I always sit on the wing and throw my feet in.
>>>
>>> What happens next Jeff?
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| Subject: | Re: XS Wing Query |
I concur with Jeff's method of entering the tri gear. To get out I do find
that gravity is a great help in that once sitting on the headrest, by
flicking feet outside it is then possible to slide off the front edge of the
wing but normally with one hand placed about 1 to 2 feet out board on the
wing about mid spar. This avoids standing on the wing at any time.
It certainly was essential to reinforce the bottom of the door cill as I use
that to lift myself in and out at times during the process.
Regards
Steve Pitt
G-SMDH
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