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1. 04:23 AM - Woodcomp Prop on Monowheel (Carl Pattinson)
2. 05:31 AM - Re: Woodcomp Prop on Monowheel (Mark Burton)
3. 07:09 AM - FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! (Alan Burrows)
4. 07:44 AM - FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! (Alan Burrows)
5. 08:06 AM - Re: ASI vs. Manometer (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com)
6. 08:17 AM - Re: Re: ASI vs. Manometer (Al Stills)
7. 08:20 AM - Re: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! (Robert Borger)
8. 08:26 AM - Re: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! (Raimo Toivio)
9. 08:42 AM - FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! (Raimo Toivio)
10. 09:14 AM - Re: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! (Trevpond@aol.com)
11. 12:20 PM - Jabiropa cooling (Fred Klein)
12. 12:37 PM - Woodcomp Scimitar Props (bryan allsop)
13. 01:01 PM - Re: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! (Carl Pattinson)
14. 01:52 PM - FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! (steve v)
15. 01:58 PM - Re: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! (Europa List)
16. 02:09 PM - XCOM and stall warner (Paul Stewart)
17. 02:34 PM - Re: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! (R.C.Harrison)
18. 03:35 PM - Source for FCFL 5mm foam? (G&TPowell)
19. 04:51 PM - Re: Source for FCFL 5mm foam? (Graham Singleton)
20. 06:43 PM - the American way (Fred Klein)
21. 06:52 PM - Re: Source for FCFL 5mm foam? (Fred Klein)
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| Subject: | Woodcomp Prop on Monowheel |
It seems that the PFA is unlikely to agree to the Scimitar blade prop at 1650mm
and possibly even the Straight at 1625 as they are both over the the 1575mm of
the original prop.
However there are at least two mono Europas operating in the uk currently (this
includes Williams plane). I am aware of the rumour that Williams prop was undersize.
I spoke to the factory about the possibility of raising the fuselage height by
packing out the rubber suspension block with plywood spacers but they werent very
keen. Roger seemed to think that this would overstress the undercarriage somehow.
Note- I am not talking about increasing the distance between the block support
plates but merely taking up the space which occurr's when the aircraft is loaded.
On our aircraft there is about 1cm of slack when the plane is on the ground.
Packing out the gap would probably increase the distance of the prop from
the ground by several inches.
It would also increase the deck angle but that wouldnt cause a problem IMHO.
So what am I missing here ?
Carl Pattinson
G-LABS
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| Subject: | Re: Woodcomp Prop on Monowheel |
Having discussed this topic with Andy Draper this year I think that you will find
that the PFA are happy for the 1625mm prop to be fitted to XS monos and tri-gears
and to classic tri-gears.
Andy also thought that it would probably be possible to fit it to classic monos
as well but that would require someone fitting one and taking the measurements
to see if the clearances were acceptable.
Mark
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| Subject: | FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! |
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| Subject: | FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! |
Hi Guys
I think I may have got this wrong when I tried to send it a few mins.
Ago,
so here goes a second time. If, like me you feel this is one step too
far .
(I can hear Bob Harrison applauding from here). Then you may wish to
sign
up. It=92s a really quick and simple process.
What do you think? I=92m sure our US friends must be laughing there
heads off
at this one!
Kind Regards
Alan
Subject: [UKaerobatics] Red Arrows & the Olymipics...
It takes 2-seconds to submit your signature to the petition; it is a
reputable, fully registered, petition site
The world-famous Red Arrows have been banned from appearing at the 2012
London Olympics because they are deemed "too British".
Organisers of the event say that the Arrows military background might be
"offensive" to other countries taking part in the Games. The display
team
have performed at more than 4000 events worldwide, but the Department of
Culture, Media and Sport have deemed the display team "too
militaristically
British". Red Arrows pilots were said to be "outraged", as they had
hoped to
put on a truly world class display for the Games, something which had
never
been seen before. Being axed from a British-based event for being "too
British" is an insult - the Arrows are a symbol of Britain.
The Red Arrows have been excellent ambassadors for British overseas
trade,
as they display their British-built Hawk aircraft all over the world.
The Arrows performed a short flypast in 2005 when the winning bid was
announced, but their flypast at the Games was to have been truly
spectacular.
It is to be hoped that common sense prevails.
If you disagree with this decision, sign the petition on the link
below=85
HYPERLINK
"http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/RedArrows2012/?ref=redArrows2012"
\nhttp://petitions.-pm.gov.uk/-RedArrows2012/-?ref=redArrows20-12
25/09/2007
08:02
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| Subject: | Re: ASI vs. Manometer |
In a message dated 9/26/2007 2:58:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
europa-list@matronics.com writes:
thanks again! btw, why not use an ASI connected wrong way round to
measure the pressure differential inside the cowl, easier and more
convenient than flying with water filled tubes in the cockpit?
There is a table somewhere of indicated airspeed versus delta P
Hey Graham,
Somebody posted a conversion table of airspeed to inches of water column on
the Yahoo Jabiru list a while back. I have that table, but I don't have a
spare ASI that works to try it. I've been testing with a "calibrated" manometer
I got from a friend who owns a heating and air conditioning supply house.
These manometers list for over $50, but he only wanted $12, so I couldn't
resist. The testing I've been doing with the manometer has all been done in the
morning when it's smooth. So, no real issues with water filled tubes in the
cockpit. I have the manometer secured with masking tape to the panel, so no
problems yet with it moving around and making a mess. I also have the manometer
set up so that I can switch between the right and left intakes by switching the
feed tubes and thereby compare the results. The static source is common to
both ducts.
I sure hope I don't make a mess! The wife would kill me for sure if I
spilled green dyed water on the upholstery she made for N245E! I think the courts
would rule that grounds for "justifiable homicide" after she fought my old
sewing machine for 3 weeks before I finally broke down and bought a new machine
so she could finish the seat cushions. Death would surely be slow and painful
if I stain that upholstery!
I did two brief flight tests with the Sonex duct yesterday and it was
terrible, i.e, much, much worse than what I have been seeing with the old, original
left duct, but I don't necessarily think at this point it's the Sonex duct's
fault. I played with a fan and a piece of sewing thread tied to a piece of
welding rod in front of the ducts near the intake and found some rather
interesting behavior in the airflow around the left intake. I used a piece of
welding rod to hold a 6" piece of thread in the airflow of the fan so I could
keep
my hands and arms out of the way and not skew the results.
As the thread approaches the center of the left intake hole the intake
rejects the thread and the thread actually blows away from the intake duct and
towards the fan! This left me puzzled, so I first made a couple of vortex
generators out of some thin, scrap aluminum and taped them on the outside of the
cowl near the intake where I seemed to have a particularly low pressure area
that was sucking the thread out of the intake. The thread showed remarkable
improvement in flow around the intake hole with the vortex generators installed
and I observed much less tendency for the intake to reject the thread. I
removed the vortex generators and put zigzag tape in various places around the
intake and tested it again and again with the thread and even more improvement
in flow was observed. I found what I think is a sweet spot for the zigzag
tape and clearly it is helping the flow enter the duct. Whether or not this
stays constant at flying speeds remains to be seen, but I don't know of any
reason why it wouldn't. Unfortunately, I broke one of my CHT rings when I had
to
remove the plugs to get the Sonex duct off and it'll be Friday before I can
get a replacement and do a test flight. It's going to be a long two days
waiting, for sure. I'm thinking I had a "Eureka" moment yesterday. Flight testing
will ultimately reveal whether I'm onto something or not.
Something is causing a high pressure bubble to form just outside the mouth
of the intake and the thread is showing that bubble is preventing air flow
from entering the intake. In fact, it appears to be rejecting flow without the
zigzag or vortex generators on about half the diameter of the intake on the
left, particularly on the outboard edge. The thread is essentially showing me
exactly what my manometer testing has shown, duct pressure is not an
indication of flow, but rather it is an indication of the absence of flow. The
right
side does not show this tendency to reject the thread at all, even though the
intakes are identical, mirror images in shape and the aluminum intake rings
are identical in size. Some of this almost certainly has to do with the
direction of rotation of the prop, or in this case the fan. Beyond that, why this
rejection occurs on one side and not the other is a real mystery. In fact,
the right side sucks the thread into the hole from more than an inch away
laterally. The thread also shows good laminar flow all around the outside of the
intake on both sides, but even with no internal duct installed, the left
intake hole rejects my thread unless I have the vortex generators installed on
the
outside of the cowl near the intake or the zigzag tape along the lip of the
intake. I think I've found the missing piece to the puzzle. I'll let ya'll
know more once I've had a chance to do some flight testing on Friday or
Saturday.
Regards,
John Lawton
Whitwell, TN (TN89)
N245E - Grounded until Friday
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| Subject: | Re: ASI vs. Manometer |
John,
I'm following your testing with baited interest as I was thing of the Sonex
style duct also. I've gotten my temps within limits but haven't been able to
balance them
as I would like.
Al Stills
N625AZ
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! |
Gents,
I'd be laughing if it weren't so sad. Just another example of political correctness
gone mad. Send your guys over here to perform. Our PC crowd hasn't quite
crammed this pseudo-niceness that far down our throats so we can enjoy the
beauty and splendor of any and all aerial performers, military or otherwise.
I bet they'd be a real hit at Oshkosh in 2012 and every year between now and 2012.
May we colonials over here on the west side of the big pond sign your petition?
Check six,
Bob Borger
On Wednesday, September 26, 2007, at 10:04AM, "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
wrote:
>Hi Guys
>
>
>
>I think I may have got this wrong when I tried to send it a few mins. Ago,
>so here goes a second time. If, like me you feel this is one step too far .
>(I can hear Bob Harrison applauding from here). Then you may wish to sign
>up. It?s a really quick and simple process.
>
>What do you think? I?m sure our US friends must be laughing there heads off
>at this one!
>
>Kind Regards
>
>
>
>Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Subject: [UKaerobatics] Red Arrows & the Olymipics...
>
>
>
>It takes 2-seconds to submit your signature to the petition; it is a
>reputable, fully registered, petition site
>
>
>
>The world-famous Red Arrows have been banned from appearing at the 2012
>London Olympics because they are deemed "too British".
>
>Organisers of the event say that the Arrows military background might be
>"offensive" to other countries taking part in the Games. The display team
>have performed at more than 4000 events worldwide, but the Department of
>Culture, Media and Sport have deemed the display team "too militaristically
>British". Red Arrows pilots were said to be "outraged", as they had hoped to
>put on a truly world class display for the Games, something which had never
>been seen before. Being axed from a British-based event for being "too
>British" is an insult - the Arrows are a symbol of Britain.
>
>The Red Arrows have been excellent ambassadors for British overseas trade,
>as they display their British-built Hawk aircraft all over the world.
>
>The Arrows performed a short flypast in 2005 when the winning bid was
>announced, but their flypast at the Games was to have been truly
>spectacular.
>
>It is to be hoped that common sense prevails.
>
>If you disagree with this decision, sign the petition on the link below?
>
> HYPERLINK "http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/RedArrows2012/?ref=redArrows2012"
>\nhttp://petitions.-pm.gov.uk/-RedArrows2012/-?ref=redArrows20-12
>
>
>25/09/2007
>08:02
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! |
Those Red Arrow boys really can fly
- I saw their fabulous flying couple of year ago
and I have RA -poster here in my work shop.
It is art and makes people happy.
(I do have to add here: in fact my test pilot
Lt. Col. Jyrki Laukkanen has teached them)
I sign at once.
Raimo
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Burrows
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:42 PM
Subject: Europa-List: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!!
Hi Guys
I think I may have got this wrong when I tried to send it a few mins.
Ago, so here goes a second time. If, like me you feel this is one step
too far . (I can hear Bob Harrison applauding from here). Then you may
wish to sign up. It=92s a really quick and simple process.
What do you think? I=92m sure our US friends must be laughing there
heads off at this one!
Kind Regards
Alan
Subject: [UKaerobatics] Red Arrows & the Olymipics...
It takes 2-seconds to submit your signature to the petition; it is a
reputable, fully registered, petition site
The world-famous Red Arrows have been banned from appearing at the
2012 London Olympics because they are deemed "too British".
Organisers of the event say that the Arrows military background might
be "offensive" to other countries taking part in the Games. The display
team have performed at more than 4000 events worldwide, but the
Department of Culture, Media and Sport have deemed the display team "too
militaristically British". Red Arrows pilots were said to be "outraged",
as they had hoped to put on a truly world class display for the Games,
something which had never been seen before. Being axed from a
British-based event for being "too British" is an insult - the Arrows
are a symbol of Britain.
The Red Arrows have been excellent ambassadors for British overseas
trade, as they display their British-built Hawk aircraft all over the
world.
The Arrows performed a short flypast in 2005 when the winning bid was
announced, but their flypast at the Games was to have been truly
spectacular.
It is to be hoped that common sense prevails.
If you disagree with this decision, sign the petition on the link
below=85
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/RedArrows2012/?ref=redArrows2012
25/09/2007 08:02
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| Subject: | FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! |
Those Red Arrow boys really can fly
- I saw their fabulous flying couple of years ago
and I have RA -poster here in my work shop.
It is real art and makes people happy.
(I do have to add here: in fact my test pilot
Lt. Col. Jyrki Laukkanen has trained them)
Raimo
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Burrows
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 5:42 PM
Subject: Europa-List: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!!
Hi Guys
I think I may have got this wrong when I tried to send it a few mins.
Ago, so here goes a second time. If, like me you feel this is one step
too far . (I can hear Bob Harrison applauding from here). Then you may
wish to sign up. It=92s a really quick and simple process.
What do you think? I=92m sure our US friends must be laughing there
heads off at this one!
Kind Regards
Alan
Subject: [UKaerobatics] Red Arrows & the Olymipics...
It takes 2-seconds to submit your signature to the petition; it is a
reputable, fully registered, petition site
The world-famous Red Arrows have been banned from appearing at the
2012 London Olympics because they are deemed "too British".
Organisers of the event say that the Arrows military background might
be "offensive" to other countries taking part in the Games. The display
team have performed at more than 4000 events worldwide, but the
Department of Culture, Media and Sport have deemed the display team "too
militaristically British". Red Arrows pilots were said to be "outraged",
as they had hoped to put on a truly world class display for the Games,
something which had never been seen before. Being axed from a
British-based event for being "too British" is an insult - the Arrows
are a symbol of Britain.
The Red Arrows have been excellent ambassadors for British overseas
trade, as they display their British-built Hawk aircraft all over the
world.
The Arrows performed a short flypast in 2005 when the winning bid was
announced, but their flypast at the Games was to have been truly
spectacular.
It is to be hoped that common sense prevails.
If you disagree with this decision, sign the petition on the link
below=85
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/RedArrows2012/?ref=redArrows2012
25/09/2007 08:02
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! |
It's a bloody disgrace!! The government is so busy giving our Country away
and of course our rights at the same time that it will soon be illegal to
celebrate Christmas or Easter in case we offend our "multicultural" Society.
Trev Pond
G-LINN
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| Subject: | Jabiropa cooling |
> Something is causing a high pressure bubble to form just outside the
> mouth of the-intake and the thread is showing that bubble
> is-preventing air-flow from entering the intake. In fact, it appears
> to be rejecting flow without the zigzag or vortex generators on about
> half the-diameter-of the intake on the left, particularly on the
> outboard edge.-
John,
As I look at your pix posted Mar. 11 (the one w/ you giving the "thumbs
up"), I'm noticing the cowling shape immediately below the 4" inlet. It
may just be a function of the light in the pix but it appears that the
cowl shape forms something of a ramp for air moving vertically from the
prop rotation. Could this be a factor in creating the high pressure
bubble you speak of? Might it be that the cowl shape tends to sweep air
vertically across the inlet which interferes with airflow into the
inlet?
In comparing the two inlets, the portion of your cowl below the left
inlet (appearing as bright white in your pix) would be the principal
difference in the cowling geometry which the air from the propeller
"sees" as it rotates as it approaches the inlets left and right.
I'm wondering if a concentric lip projecting forward of the inlet...say
maybe as much as an inch (?)...could act in such a way as to divert
that vertically rising air around the inlet, reducing pressure in front
of the inlet, and increasing flow into your duct...? (I'm aware that
you've already tweaked the cowling geometry around the inlets.)
At the very least, it appears to me that it would lessen the degree to
which prop rotation influences flow into the inlets.
Just a thought...
Fred
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| Subject: | Woodcomp Scimitar Props |
Hi Folks. From personal experience, I can assure you that the PFA will not
approve Woodcomp blades bigger than 1625 mm diameter on a mono. Whilst corr
esponding on this subject, I was asked by Conrad Beale to convey the messag
e that William's wife would like to dispose of his Scimitar prop ( in excel
lent condition, and not installed at the time of the accident), together wi
th his trailer etc. I pass this information on in good faith. Bryan Allsop
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! |
No doubt the Horse Guards will be sent on leave so that they dont offend
the foreign tourists.
If the implications werent so bloody serious it would be funny - it
isnt. Now we have to be ashamed of who we are.
The only people who should be ashamed are the government and
beaurocratic apologists who condone this kind of political correctness.
We should lock em all up in the Tower of London. Not so long ago it
would be regarded as treason - penalty death!
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Burrows
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:42 PM
Subject: Europa-List: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!!
Hi Guys
I think I may have got this wrong when I tried to send it a few mins.
Ago, so here goes a second time. If, like me you feel this is one step
too far . (I can hear Bob Harrison applauding from here). Then you may
wish to sign up. It=92s a really quick and simple process.
What do you think? I=92m sure our US friends must be laughing there
heads off at this one!
Kind Regards
Alan
Subject: [UKaerobatics] Red Arrows & the Olymipics...
It takes 2-seconds to submit your signature to the petition; it is a
reputable, fully registered, petition site
The world-famous Red Arrows have been banned from appearing at the
2012 London Olympics because they are deemed "too British".
Organisers of the event say that the Arrows military background might
be "offensive" to other countries taking part in the Games. The display
team have performed at more than 4000 events worldwide, but the
Department of Culture, Media and Sport have deemed the display team "too
militaristically British". Red Arrows pilots were said to be "outraged",
as they had hoped to put on a truly world class display for the Games,
something which had never been seen before. Being axed from a
British-based event for being "too British" is an insult - the Arrows
are a symbol of Britain.
The Red Arrows have been excellent ambassadors for British overseas
trade, as they display their British-built Hawk aircraft all over the
world.
The Arrows performed a short flypast in 2005 when the winning bid was
announced, but their flypast at the Games was to have been truly
spectacular.
It is to be hoped that common sense prevails.
If you disagree with this decision, sign the petition on the link
below=85
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/RedArrows2012/?ref=redArrows2012
25/09/2007 08:02
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| Subject: | FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! |
Thanks for the link to the petition Alan,
Steve Vestuti #573 G-CEBV
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! |
This same political correctness is sweeping the USA as well. Very
similar events in fact. Since when should something as proud and noble
as the US and British militaries be something to be hidden from the rest
of the world in shame. The shame lies with the PC crowd and their lack
of cahones. Then I guess that we can't lay off all the blame when we
quietly stand by and let the PC's get away with their stupidity. What's
the answer mates?
Vaughn
----- Original Message -----
From: Carl Pattinson
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!!
No doubt the Horse Guards will be sent on leave so that they dont
offend the foreign tourists.
If the implications werent so bloody serious it would be funny - it
isnt. Now we have to be ashamed of who we are.
The only people who should be ashamed are the government and
beaurocratic apologists who condone this kind of political correctness.
We should lock em all up in the Tower of London. Not so long ago it
would be regarded as treason - penalty death!
----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Burrows
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:42 PM
Subject: Europa-List: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!!
Hi Guys
I think I may have got this wrong when I tried to send it a few
mins. Ago, so here goes a second time. If, like me you feel this is one
step too far . (I can hear Bob Harrison applauding from here). Then you
may wish to sign up. It=92s a really quick and simple process.
What do you think? I=92m sure our US friends must be laughing there
heads off at this one!
Kind Regards
Alan
Subject: [UKaerobatics] Red Arrows & the Olymipics...
It takes 2-seconds to submit your signature to the petition; it is a
reputable, fully registered, petition site
The world-famous Red Arrows have been banned from appearing at the
2012 London Olympics because they are deemed "too British".
Organisers of the event say that the Arrows military background
might be "offensive" to other countries taking part in the Games. The
display team have performed at more than 4000 events worldwide, but the
Department of Culture, Media and Sport have deemed the display team "too
militaristically British". Red Arrows pilots were said to be "outraged",
as they had hoped to put on a truly world class display for the Games,
something which had never been seen before. Being axed from a
British-based event for being "too British" is an insult - the Arrows
are a symbol of Britain.
The Red Arrows have been excellent ambassadors for British overseas
trade, as they display their British-built Hawk aircraft all over the
world.
The Arrows performed a short flypast in 2005 when the winning bid
was announced, but their flypast at the Games was to have been truly
spectacular.
It is to be hoped that common sense prevails.
If you disagree with this decision, sign the petition on the link
below=85
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/RedArrows2012/?ref=redArrows2012
25/09/2007 08:02
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| Subject: | XCOM and stall warner |
Has anyone used the factory stall warner to sound through and
intercom (more specifically the XCOM one) rather than the little horn
supplied?. If so I'd be interested in how.
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
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| Subject: | FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! |
Hi! Bob B/Raimo /All
Regretfully I don't think you can assist (other than writing to "our
esteemed" Prime Minister!) The petition application page requires your
address and there is a box to use if you are an "Ex.Pat" So I guess
they'd have a blocking mechanism and bar your participation.
Yes, it is all so very very frustrating when generations past made the
ultimate sacrifice for us to now finish up as a damn backwater to a
Federal Europe.
My great fear is that our gullible indigenous population will let it all
happen without so much as a whimper. Only then will they realise the
futility of belated resistance.
Regards
Bob h G-PTAG
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Borger
Sent: 26 September 2007 16:20
Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!!
Gents,
I'd be laughing if it weren't so sad. Just another example of political
correctness gone mad. Send your guys over here to perform. Our PC
crowd hasn't quite crammed this pseudo-niceness that far down our
throats so we can enjoy the beauty and splendor of any and all aerial
performers, military or otherwise. I bet they'd be a real hit at
Oshkosh in 2012 and every year between now and 2012.
May we colonials over here on the west side of the big pond sign your
petition?
Check six,
Bob Borger
On Wednesday, September 26, 2007, at 10:04AM, "Alan Burrows"
<alan@kestrel-insurance.com> wrote:
>Hi Guys
>
>
>
>I think I may have got this wrong when I tried to send it a few mins.
Ago,
>so here goes a second time. If, like me you feel this is one step too
far .
>(I can hear Bob Harrison applauding from here). Then you may wish to
sign
>up. It?s a really quick and simple process.
>
>What do you think? I?m sure our US friends must be laughing there
heads off
>at this one!
>
>Kind Regards
>
>
>
>Alan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Subject: [UKaerobatics] Red Arrows & the Olymipics...
>
>
>
>It takes 2-seconds to submit your signature to the petition; it is a
>reputable, fully registered, petition site
>
>
>
>The world-famous Red Arrows have been banned from appearing at the 2012
>London Olympics because they are deemed "too British".
>
>Organisers of the event say that the Arrows military background might
be
>"offensive" to other countries taking part in the Games. The display
team
>have performed at more than 4000 events worldwide, but the Department
of
>Culture, Media and Sport have deemed the display team "too
militaristically
>British". Red Arrows pilots were said to be "outraged", as they had
hoped to
>put on a truly world class display for the Games, something which had
never
>been seen before. Being axed from a British-based event for being "too
>British" is an insult - the Arrows are a symbol of Britain.
>
>The Red Arrows have been excellent ambassadors for British overseas
trade,
>as they display their British-built Hawk aircraft all over the world.
>
>The Arrows performed a short flypast in 2005 when the winning bid was
>announced, but their flypast at the Games was to have been truly
>spectacular.
>
>It is to be hoped that common sense prevails.
>
>If you disagree with this decision, sign the petition on the link
below?
>
> HYPERLINK
"http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/RedArrows2012/?ref=redArrows2012"
>\nhttp://petitions.-pm.gov.uk/-RedArrows2012/-?ref=redArrows20-12
>
>
>25/09/2007
>08:02
>
>
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| Subject: | Source for FCFL 5mm foam? |
I was not supplied the 5mm brown PVC foam (Part FCFL) used in building the flaps.
Does anyone know of a source in the US for this material? I couldn't find
anything in the Wicks or Aircraft Spruce catalogs.
Thanks for the help.
George
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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| Subject: | Re: Source for FCFL 5mm foam? |
George
you could use Lastafoam. It isn't PVC but polyurethane, but if the
density is similar it should be OK.
Graham
G&TPowell wrote:
>
> I was not supplied the 5mm brown PVC foam (Part FCFL) used in building the flaps.
Does anyone know of a source in the US for this material? I couldn't find
anything in the Wicks or Aircraft Spruce catalogs.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> George
>
>
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> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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--
Graham Singleton
Tel: +441629820187
Mob: +447739582005
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| Subject: | the American way |
After every flight, UPS (United Parcel Service) pilots fill out a form,
called a
"gripe sheet,"-which tells mechanics about problems with the aircraft.
The mechanics
-correct the problems, document their repairs on the form, and then
-pilots review the gripe sheets before the next flight. Never let it be
-said that ground crews lack a sense of humor. Here are some actual
-maintenance complaints submitted by UPS pilots (marked with a P) and
the
-solutions recorded (marked with an S) by maintenance engineers.
-
(UPS is the only major airline that has never, ever, had an accident.)
-~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-P: Left inside main tire almost needs replacement.
-S: Almost replaced left inside main tire.
-
-P: Test flight OK, except auto-land very rough.
-S: Auto-land not installed on this aircraft.
-
-P: Something loose in cockpit
-S: Something tightened in cockpit
-
-P: Dead bugs on windshield.
-S: Live bugs on back-order.
-
-P: Autopilot in altitude-hold mode produces a 200 feet per minute
-descent.
-S: Cannot reproduce problem on ground.
-
-P: Evidence of leak on right main landing gear.
-S: Evidence removed.
-
-P: DME volume unbelievably loud.
-S: DME volume set to more believable level.
-
-P: Friction locks cause throttle levers to stick.
-S: That's what friction locks are for.
-
-P: IFF inoperative in OFF mode.
-S: IFF always inoperative in OFF mode.
-
-P: Suspected crack in windshield.
-S: Suspect you're right.
-
-P: Number 3 engine missing.
-S: Engine found on right wing after brief search.
-
-P: Aircraft handles funny.
-S: Aircraft warned to: straighten up, fly right, and be serious.
-
-P: Target radar hums.
-S: Reprogrammed target radar with lyrics.
-
-P: Mouse in cockpit.
-S: Cat installed.
-
-P: Noise coming from under instrument panel. Sounds like a midget
- pounding on something with a hammer.
-S: Took hammer away from midget.
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| Subject: | Re: Source for FCFL 5mm foam? |
> Does anyone know of a source in the US for this material?
I got some .125" Last-A-Foam from
General Plastics Manufacturing Co.
4810 Burlington Way
Tacoma, WA 98409
tel: 253-473-5000
www.generalplastics.com
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