---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 10/04/07: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:59 AM - Re: A rare message..... (ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk) 2. 07:39 AM - NASA/Langly report on recip engine cooling (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com) 3. 08:40 AM - Re: NASA/Langly report on recip engine cooling (Graham Singleton) 4. 11:49 AM - Wing profiling () 5. 11:49 AM - Wing profiling () 6. 01:14 PM - Re: NASA/Langly report on recip engine cooling (Duncan & Ami McFadyean) 7. 01:54 PM - Re: NASA/Langly report on recip engine cooling (Gilles Thesee) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:24 AM PST US From: "ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk" Subject: Re: Europa-List: A rare message..... Hi! For what they cost how about making a spot on your service/spares shelf for a stand by one ? Regards Bob H G-PTAG >----Original Message---- >From: VE3LVO@rac.ca >Date: 03/10/2007 16:00 >To: "EUROPALIST" >Subj: Europa-List: A rare message..... > > >Hello, > We often see complaints regarding after-sales service of some of the >people who accept our money in exchange for their goods/services, > I'd like to counter that with good news. > Last Tuesday, 25SEP 07, as I was passing close to the front of the >engine, my sleeve caught one of the sintered brushes which are meant to >engage the rotating rings of my Woodcomp 3000-3 prop (not instralled). It >snapped the brush in half - just another trifling reverse, as I went to bed >shaking my head. > The next morning I emailed Jiri Holoubek near Prague with a sketch >and description of what had happened. By now it was 4pm his time. I received >an email reply about 1-1/2 hours later to say he would send a replacement. > It arrived this morning in the mail (two replacements) with the >date-stamp showing "27.09.07" as the posting. He must have arranged to post >it that afternoon. > You can't ask for more than that, especially on a small item that >couldn't have much profit to it. I thought you should know. >Cheers, ferg > > __________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband only 7.99 a month for your first 3 months! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:32 AM PST US From: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: NASA/Langly report on recip engine cooling An investigation of the aerodynamics and cooling of horizontally opposed engine installation" SJ Miley. SAE 1977. Hi Duncan, I found the report you cite here: _http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19810013485_1981013485.p df_ (http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19810013485_1981013485.pdf) I think this is the same report, but it's date of issue shows 1981. I've not had a chance to read it through yet, but skimming over it it looks to contain everything anybody could ever want to know about recip engine cooing and duct shape. Thanks for the heads up on that one! Our tax dollars might have actually been used to produce something useful. Wouldn't that be a breath of fresh air? Gilles, in regard to the details of my Jab installation, I've not had a chance to post anything yet. I have sent rather lengthy descriptions of what I've done to those who have asked, though. If there is enough interest (and if I can find the time) I could put together a report with pictures detailing my installation. I'm still fiddling with several things at the moment, so it's still a work in progress. So far, though, it's working well. I started playing with shapes yesterday to fair in the triangle brace I mentioned on the nosegear leg. I looks like I can bend up something out of sheet metal that would do what needs to be done in that area. Regards, John Lawton Whitwell, TN (TN89) N245E - Flying ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:45 AM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: NASA/Langly report on recip engine cooling John I tend to knock things up in sheet lead, easy to form and stretch. Then I use the part I've knocked up as a mould for a GRP copy. Tend to use phenolic resin around the back of the engine, its fire resistant. Not easy to get hold of in small quantities though. I rarely have the discipline to do this, but I always say " one change at a time, then you have a chance of seeing if its better or worse" ?;-) Graham TELEDYNMCS@aol.com wrote: > /An investigation of the aerodynamics and cooling of horizontally > opposed engine installation" > SJ Miley. SAE 1977./ > I started playing with shapes yesterday to fair in the triangle brace I > mentioned on the nosegear leg. I looks like I can bend up something out > of sheet metal that would do what needs to be done in that area. > > Regards, > > John Lawton > Whitwell, TN (TN89) > N245E - Flying > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > See what's n="_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage. > > * > > > * -- Graham Singleton Tel: +441629820187 Mob: +447739582005 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:49:09 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Wing profiling From: Interesting site of profiling Nimbus: http://www.jimphoenix.com/jimphoenix2/pages/Nimbus/LH%20UP%20wing/subLH%20UP%20wing.html Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:49:11 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Wing profiling From: Interesting site of profiling Nimbus: http://www.jimphoenix.com/jimphoenix2/pages/Nimbus/LH%20UP%20wing/subLH%20UP%20wing.html Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:14:03 PM PST US From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" Subject: Re: Europa-List: NASA/Langly report on recip engine cooling That's the one! Only I had to pay 25 USD for mine and wait a couple of weeks. Dammn! Duncan McF do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 3:30 PM Subject: Europa-List: NASA/Langly report on recip engine cooling An investigation of the aerodynamics and cooling of horizontally opposed engine installation" SJ Miley. SAE 1977. Hi Duncan, I found the report you cite here: http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19810013485_19810134 85.pdf I think this is the same report, but it's date of issue shows 1981. I've not had a chance to read it through yet, but skimming over it it looks to contain everything anybody could ever want to know about recip engine cooing and duct shape. Thanks for the heads up on that one! Our tax dollars might have actually been used to produce something useful. Wouldn't that be a breath of fresh air? Gilles, in regard to the details of my Jab installation, I've not had a chance to post anything yet. I have sent rather lengthy descriptions of what I've done to those who have asked, though. If there is enough interest (and if I can find the time) I could put together a report with pictures detailing my installation. I'm still fiddling with several things at the moment, so it's still a work in progress. So far, though, it's working well. I started playing with shapes yesterday to fair in the triangle brace I mentioned on the nosegear leg. I looks like I can bend up something out of sheet metal that would do what needs to be done in that area. Regards, John Lawton Whitwell, TN (TN89) N245E - Flying ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- See what's n="_blank">Make AOL Your Homepage. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:54:11 PM PST US From: Gilles Thesee Subject: Re: Europa-List: NASA/Langly report on recip engine cooling TELEDYNMCS@aol.com a crit : > > http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19810013485_1981013485.pdf > > I think this is the same report, but it's date of issue shows 1981. > I've not had a chance to read it through yet, but skimming over it it > looks to contain everything anybody could ever want to know about > recip engine cooing and duct shape. Thanks for the heads up on that > one! Our tax dollars might have actually been used to produce > something useful. Wouldn't that be a breath of fresh John, Duncan and all, S.J. Miley has been with us since the beginning of our cooling project. By the way, we made liberal use of the US tax dollars, by closely studying many NACA/NASA reports, some of them dating back to the '40s ;-) I tried to make as useful a summary as possible on cooling and internal aerodynamics. > Gilles, in regard to the details of my Jab installation, I've not had > a chance to post anything yet. I have sent rather lengthy descriptions > of what I've done to those who have asked, though. If there is enough > interest (and if I can find the time) I could put together a report > with pictures detailing my installation. I'm still fiddling with > several things at the moment, so it's still a work in progress. So > far, though, it's working well. > Any pictures will be appreciated. I'm sure you'll come out with quite satisfactory cooling, though the quest may prove long since you're pioneering with the Jab installation. All the best with your project, Best regards, -- Gilles http://contrails.free.fr ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.