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1. 10:30 AM - Re: Re: Europa Training Standards (Andrew Sarangan)
2. 10:53 AM - Re: Re: Europa Training Standards (Gilles Thesee)
3. 01:13 PM - Regrets......Torque Tube Clamp Orders....... (Robt.C.Harrison)
4. 03:40 PM - Re: Re: Europa Training Standards (Andrew Sarangan)
5. 03:50 PM - Re: Mods (SteveD)
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Training Standards |
A formal transition training for the Europa is something that is still
sorely lacking. Most pilots seem to jump right into their newly built
Europas with no prior experience. I have taken several demo rides in
the Europa, but I have never touched the controls during takeoffs and
landings. In fact, when I took the first demo ride at the then Lakeland
office, I was surprised that I was not offered to handle the takeoff
and landing. One of my friends who also went to Lakeland for a demo,
decided to not buy the Europa solely based on the fact that he was not
given that opportunity. He is building an RV now. Velocity Aircraft
offers a nice training that includes ground and flight in their factory
aircraft. This is something that the UK factory ought to give some
thought to. It could also be a good source of revenue for them.
--- Venu Rao <venurao@mac.com> wrote:
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> Has anyone taken a stab at this? Are there any high time Europa
> monowheel pilots in the States who are open to providing some
> of this transition training and/or helping to outline some standards?
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> Cheers,
> Venu
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> Venu Rao
> 058 - Europa XS Monowheel
> Builder: Jim Nelson
> 150 hrs
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140020#140020
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Training Standards |
Andrew Sarangan a crit :
> In fact, when I took the first demo ride at the then Lakeland
> office, I was surprised that I was not offered to handle the takeoff
> and landing. One of my friends who also went to Lakeland for a demo,
> decided to not buy the Europa solely based on the fact that he was not
> given that opportunity.
Andrew and all,
I'm a bit surprised.
Why would a demopilot or instructor *not* offer to fly the airplane from
startup to landing ?
I understand your friend : I also would be wary of an airplane I'm not
allowed to take off and land.
My first answer when asked about a particular model is, fly the airplane
before making any decisions.
What was wrong with that particular airplane (or demo pilot ;-)))
Best regards,
--
Gilles Thesee
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | Regrets......Torque Tube Clamp Orders....... |
Hi! All
You may have noticed I've been "out of cyber space" lately ?
Well ...my damn computer crashed big time .took every little morsel of
info with it and out of a certain ignorance of computer terminology... I
thought the term "archive" was what I NOW UNDERSTAND is "back up" ! So
here's the first communication (thanks to Ivor Phillips and a certain
Indian named "Amer" ) from the new set up! (Except until my son returns
from his Greek holiday I just may rescue my list of contacts info. from
my phone!)
The message starts with an apology !.. I'm sorry to have to use the site
as a sales tool BUT.. would all those who have not placed orders with
hard cash up front (those who have can rest easy I have their details )
and who would like to be in the first order batch ..about to start
production please communicate with me immediately, otherwise be prepared
for a wait until the second batch numbers are sufficient.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Training Standards |
I was surprised too. My first ride was with Bob Berube when he used to
work for Europa. Second ride was with Jim Thursby (if I recall
correctly). Both times I handled the controls once we were in the air,
but relinquished the controls for takeoff and landing. As a flight
instructor I know that it takes some training experience to let someone
else do the takeoff and landing, especially in a aircraft that could
ground loop. Even though I am building a monowheel I have never
experienced its ground handling. And I know I am not the only one.
--- Gilles Thesee <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr> wrote:
> <Gilles.Thesee@ac-grenoble.fr>
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> Andrew Sarangan a crit :
> > In fact, when I took the first demo ride at the then Lakeland
> > office, I was surprised that I was not offered to handle the
> takeoff
> > and landing. One of my friends who also went to Lakeland for a
> demo,
> > decided to not buy the Europa solely based on the fact that he was
> not
> > given that opportunity.
>
> Andrew and all,
>
> I'm a bit surprised.
> Why would a demopilot or instructor *not* offer to fly the airplane
> from
> startup to landing ?
> I understand your friend : I also would be wary of an airplane I'm
> not
> allowed to take off and land.
> My first answer when asked about a particular model is, fly the
> airplane
> before making any decisions.
>
> What was wrong with that particular airplane (or demo pilot ;-)))
> Best regards,
> --
> Gilles Thesee
> http://contrails.free.fr
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Choperpaul, I think I know why all the silence. The email address you signed up
with choperpaul@yahoo.com is bouncing. Email me with a good address and I'll
fix you up.
Also the Matronics email list is not reflecting your posts to the list-server.
I can fix that too if you like.
Chat Later,
Steved
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