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1. 05:54 AM - Re: Europa Training Standards (G&TPowell)
2. 08:06 AM - DOTH Alert (bryan allsop)
3. 08:12 AM - Re: Europa Training Standards (Venu Rao)
4. 08:46 AM - Re: Re: Europa Training Standards (Robert Borger)
5. 09:18 AM - DOTH Alert (Richard Holder)
6. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: Europa Training Standards (Fred Klein)
7. 10:52 AM - Europa Training Standards (Fergus Kyle)
8. 11:40 AM - Re: DOTH Alert (Steve Pitt)
9. 11:51 AM - Re: FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! (Nigel Graham)
10. 01:16 PM - Wanted: Rotax 914 (darinh)
11. 06:52 PM - Re: Re: Europa Training Standards (Rick Stockton)
12. 08:59 PM - Europa for Sale (Craig Ellison)
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Training Standards |
I got my first demo ride in a monowheel at Sun N Fun in the 90's with the factory
test pilot. I did not take off or land, but did fly quite a bit in the air.
At Sun N Fun in 1997, I got a demo in a tri-gear with John Hurst, and I flew the
plane myself from taxi to take-off to landing and taxi in.
I was happy to let the test pilot take off and land the monowheel, but I felt comfortable
enough with the tri-gear to do everything.
Just my 2 cents' worth.
George Powell
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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For those interested, a doth is being plotted for friday. A choice of Beccl
es, Old Bucenham, Sandtoft, Sheffield, and Shobdon exists from the Pilot Ma
gazine freebies. The first two have a novelty factor, the last three have s
omewhere to eat on site.
Watch this space!
Bryan Allsop
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Training Standards |
Hope I'm not flogging a dead horse...please let me know if this issue is
a "no-go".
I recently bought Steve Crimm's monowheel - think it's a beautiful, sleek a/c
in this config,
but agree with Steve's original post about getting a list of "named" monowheel
owners
who could possibly help establish some basic training on the mono - particularly
if the
Europa team cannot provide this for insurance, liability or other reasons...
Has anyone provided more formal feedback to the
Europa team regarding these related topics, namely:
1/ Feedback on Demo Flts
2/ Need for monowheel transition training
3/ Providing a possible fee-based training program for neophytes like
myself!
Hate hearing about people steering away from the Europa mono -
it's one of the most elegant designs in aviation!
Cheers,
Venu
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Venu Rao
058 - Europa XS Monowheel
Builder: Jim Nelson
150 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Training Standards |
Venu,
You have purchased a lovely ship. And I agree with you that the Europa Monowheel
is a sleek, elegant design. After all, I'm building one.
It would be a fine idea to have a list of experienced Europa Monowheel owners willing
to provide:
1. First Flight services for newly completed aircraft
2. Transition training for newly completed or newly purchased monowheel aircraft
owners.
At some point in the future, after I have completed my Europa, I would like to
obtain my CFI in order to provide others such services. But that will be at some
point in the future, not right now. It would be much better if the U.S. Europa
team were to formally provide such services.
I have not provided the Europa team feedback on demo flights, monowheel transition
training or fee-based training for monowheel newbies.
Bud, are you out there? If you are, I hereby provide such feedback.
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
On Tuesday, October 16, 2007, at 10:25AM, "Venu Rao" <venurao@mac.com> wrote:
>
>Hope I'm not flogging a dead horse...please let me know if this issue is
>a "no-go".
>
>I recently bought Steve Crimm's monowheel - think it's a beautiful, sleek a/c
in this config,
>but agree with Steve's original post about getting a list of "named" monowheel
owners
>who could possibly help establish some basic training on the mono - particularly
if the
>Europa team cannot provide this for insurance, liability or other reasons...
>
>Has anyone provided more formal feedback to the
>Europa team regarding these related topics, namely:
>1/ Feedback on Demo Flts
>2/ Need for monowheel transition training
>3/ Providing a possible fee-based training program for neophytes like
>myself!
>
>Hate hearing about people steering away from the Europa mono -
>it's one of the most elegant designs in aviation!
>
>Cheers,
>Venu
>
>--------
>Venu Rao
>058 - Europa XS Monowheel
>Builder: Jim Nelson
>150 hrs
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140269#140269
>
>
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Old Buckenham also has a restaurant !
And there HAS been a DOTH there before ! (Paddy, Alistair
& Gerry !)
:-D
bryan allsop wrote:
> For those interested, a doth is being plotted for
> friday. A choice of Beccles, Old Bucenham, Sandtoft,
> Sheffield, and Shobdon exists from the Pilot Magazine
> freebies. The first two have a novelty factor, the last
> three have somewhere to eat on site.
Richard Holder
G-OWWW High Cross
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Training Standards |
On Tuesday, October 16, 2007, at 08:11 AM, Venu Rao wrote:
> Hope I'm not flogging a dead horse...please let me know if this issue
> is
> a "no-go".
>
> Hate hearing about people steering away from the Europa mono -
> it's one of the most elegant designs in aviation!
Venu,
Welcome to the Europa community...no dead horses here that I'm aware
of. Your points are well made. Don't hesitate to ask for what you need.
I agree totally w/ Bob Borger's post.
Fred
A194...still a-buildin'
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| Subject: | Europa Training Standards |
I agree that the mono version is not the kiddy-car that the tri-gear
is - nor is a float plane or a flying boat.
You won't see many demo pilots letting you take off in a float/boat
either. That is not a reason to switch aircraft - it is a reason to sample
the discipline. At my demo at Europa those many moons ago, I asked to
'follow through' on the controls and was allowed to. It was obvious to me
that a different discipline was required. The directional control was as
busy as that on a Yale or Harvard/SNJ/AT6 - but that's learning, not fear.
Cheers, Ferg
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Gents, I regret I am out of hours (tailplane) so will be unable to attend.
Regards
Steve Pitt
G-SMDH
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| Subject: | FW: Red Arrows "Too British"!!!! |
Hello Chaps ....remember this one?
Well it seems it was all a little bit of a misunderstanding!
http://www.raf.mod.uk/reds/teamnews/index.cfm?storyid=66845B01-1143-EC82-2E3
76B2F89D95041
Now..... How many of you signed that petition?
Nigel (the other one) ;-)
Subject: [UKaerobatics] Red Arrows & the Olymipics...
It takes 2-seconds to submit your signature to the petition; it is a
reputable, fully registered, petition site
The world-famous Red Arrows have been banned from appearing at the 2012
London Olympics because they are deemed "too British".
Organisers of the event say that the Arrows military background might be
"offensive" to other countries taking part in the Games. The display team
have performed at more than 4000 events worldwide, but the Department of
Culture, Media and Sport have deemed the display team "too militaristically
British". Red Arrows pilots were said to be "outraged", as they had hoped to
put on a truly world class display for the Games, something which had never
been seen before. Being axed from a British-based event for being "too
British" is an insult - the Arrows are a symbol of Britain.
The Red Arrows have been excellent ambassadors for British overseas trade,
as they display their British-built Hawk aircraft all over the world.
The Arrows performed a short flypast in 2005 when the winning bid was
announced, but their flypast at the Games was to have been truly
spectacular.
It is to be hoped that common sense prevails.
If you disagree with this decision, sign the petition on the link below
http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/RedArrows2012/?ref=redArrows2012
25/09/2007 08:02
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| Subject: | Wanted: Rotax 914 |
Is there anyone out there that has a new or low time 914 they want to sell? Maybe
someone who has started a kit and is not going to finish and needs to get
out...? I am looking and have cash for a quick sale. Email off list at darinh@aquaeng.com
if you have one or now of someone selling.
Thanks,
Darin
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Darin Hawkes
Series 7 (under Construction)
914 Turbo
Ogden, Utah
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140313#140313
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Training Standards |
Robert Borger and all the other Europa would be pilots. I offered my services
as a Flight Instructor to Bub just after Oshkosk, but none of my 12K+ hours are
in the Europa. It will take me two more years before I get the Tri-gear completed
if I'm lucky. I have over 4K hours teaching in everything from Cessna
150 to the Navion, CE-310 to the Piper PA31-350 and most of the small helicopters.
I'd be glad to teach anybody in the Europa once I have the time logged.
I still teach in the Navion as a check out pilot for those that need the five
or twenty five hours in this type of plane for insurance checkouts. I give four
to five check rides a week in both helicopters and airplanes. For fun I fly
a PA-18 or the CE-150-150 on floats
I'm on the left coast so it makes it hard to get back to the right coast. If
anybody needs a co-pilot out here in California I'd love to get some time in
the plane. Then maybe, I could give some instructor in the plane.
Rick Stockton 707-330-1717
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All,
After much soul searching I have decided to put my Europa up for sale. The
realities of family flying call for something bigger. She really is a sweet
flying airplane and hate to see her go. If you know of someone who might be
interested in a Mono SX 914/intercooled/Airmaster with 113hr on the Hobbs
they can contact me at:
craig.ellison2@verizon.net
503.873.3251(H)
503.508.5198(M)
regards,
Craig Ellison
Silverton, OR
----- Original Message -----
From: "Venu Rao" <venurao@mac.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 8:51 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa Training Standards
>
> Has anyone taken a stab at this? Are there any high time Europa
> monowheel pilots in the States who are open to providing some
> of this transition training and/or helping to outline some standards?
>
> Cheers,
> Venu
>
> --------
> Venu Rao
> 058 - Europa XS Monowheel
> Builder: Jim Nelson
> 150 hrs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140020#140020
>
>
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