---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 10/18/07: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:18 AM - Re: Aileron and Flap Closeouts (Laptop JR) 2. 05:41 AM - Re: Re: Europa Transition Training (Paul McAllister) 3. 05:43 AM - Re: Aileron and Flap Closeouts (JEFF ROBERTS) 4. 06:27 AM - Re: Europa Transition Training (Venu Rao) 5. 12:50 PM - Re: Aileron and Flap Closeouts (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:35 AM PST US From: "Laptop JR" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Aileron and Flap Closeouts Kingsley I did ithe inside end of the flaps by putting a little flox around the inside edge and adding a single (I think) ply of bid. JR Kit 327 in Oz Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kingsley Hurst" Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 12:37 PM Subject: Europa-List: Aileron and Flap Closeouts > > > Could anybody who has filled their aileron closeouts and outboard end of > flap closeouts please advise of the method you adopted. > > Did you :- > > a) Fill with foam and lay-up a couple of plies of BID with flox corners > ? > > b) Fill with dry mixture of Q-Cell (Micro) or Expancel ? > > c) Other ? > > TIA > > Kingsley in Oz > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:10 AM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa Transition Training Venu, I have 700 hours of time in type on a mono and would be prepared to do some training. Put me on the list. Paul ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:38 AM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Re: Europa-List: Aileron and Flap Closeouts Kingsley, It's been a while but as I recall I filled mine with foam. The kind from ACS. Did the flox corners and two plies of bid. Your (A) answer is correct in my book. Jeff R. A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush - Getting ready to install the new sensinich carbon prop and new metal spinner. On Oct 17, 2007, at 9:37 PM, Kingsley Hurst wrote: > > > Could anybody who has filled their aileron closeouts and outboard end > of > flap closeouts please advise of the method you adopted. > > Did you :- > > a) Fill with foam and lay-up a couple of plies of BID with flox corners > ? > > b) Fill with dry mixture of Q-Cell (Micro) or Expancel ? > > c) Other ? > > TIA > > Kingsley in Oz > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:04 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa Transition Training From: "Venu Rao" Paul - this is delightful news! You are probably one of the most senior mono pilots in the States. I'll email you privately to get your public contact details. Thanks very much! Venu paul.the.aviator(at)gmail wrote: > Venu, > > I have 700 hours of time in type on a mono and would be prepared to do > some training. Put me on the list. > > Paul -------- Venu Rao A058 - Mono Builder: Jim Nelson TTAE 132.1 hrs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=140610#140610 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:50:46 PM PST US From: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Aileron and Flap Closeouts Kingsley, I used your alt. a) (but with one ply of bid) - see attached sketch. I note with interest that you intend to fill only the outboard end of flap closeouts, not the inboard. I did the same - only the outboard ones, not because of weight saving but because Neville while still at EA2004 told me that filling the inboard ones had shown to increase the amount of exhaust fumes getting into the flap drive slot in the fuselage sides. The unfilled closeout creates more turbulence, which evidently is good here (I am just passing on my recollection, I may have got it wrong and cannot argue pro or con, but as in all things Europa, I have always followed Neville's recommendations). I'm prejudiced, of course, but I think the filled closeouts look really nice (less homemade, kind of). Regards, Svein LN -SKJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kingsley Hurst" Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:37 AM Subject: Europa-List: Aileron and Flap Closeouts > > > Could anybody who has filled their aileron closeouts and outboard end of > flap closeouts please advise of the method you adopted. > > Did you :- > > a) Fill with foam and lay-up a couple of plies of BID with flox corners > ? > > b) Fill with dry mixture of Q-Cell (Micro) or Expancel ? > > c) Other ? > > TIA > > Kingsley in Oz > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.