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| Subject:  | Re: Do We Really Need a Plane? | 
      
      
      Those guys seem to have a pretty high angle of attack. I wonder
      if they can stall/spin.  I'd like to see a snap roll, something not
      wise in the Europa ;-)
      
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      Ira N224XS
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Do We Really Need a Plane? | 
      
      
      Hi Ira
      
      "I wonder if they can stall/spin."
      
      Can't answer for sure, but my bet is this guy if he turned off two his 4
      jet motors (on 1 wing) it would spin great!
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHYXrqoS08o&mode=related&search
      
      http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/767-full.html#194076
      
      http://www.jet-man.com/actuel.html
      
      Ron Parigoris
      
      
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| Subject:  | Europa Owners in Central Florida | 
      
      My name is John Lace, Europa Builder 311.
      
      My Europa Monowheel, G - OJHL has been flying since 1999 and now has 300+  
      hours and is based at Prestwick in Scotland.  2007 has been a very  frustrating
      
      year with Mod. 71 early in the year, followed by Mods. 73 and 74 in  August. I
      
      also took the opportunity whilst dealing with Mod 74 to incorporate  Mod 52, 
      the max. weight upgrade. The net result has been very little flying  this year.
      
      Since retirement in 1995 my wife and I spend our winters in the Bradenton  
      area of west Central Florida and we will be there at the end of October until 
      
      early March. I do some flying from a local airfield but only in spam cans. 
      
      I have not flown the Europa since August and as a consequence, I am  
      suffering from serious withdrawal symptoms. Is there anyone out there with a  Europa
      
      in the Central Florida area who is in need of a copilot or even just a  
      passenger on the odd occasion during the next 4 months?
      
      I can be contacted at this address, _jhleuropa@aol.com_ 
      (mailto:jhleuropa@aol.com)  both here in Scotland and  in Florida. Also, my phone number in the US 
      is 941 723 3309.
      
      I will be extremely delighted to hear from anyone in the Europa fraternity  
      in the locality even if it is just to talk about the virtues of Europa's and 
      the  problems too for that matter.
      
      Heres hoping,   John Lace.
      
      
         
      
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| Subject:  | Europa Owners in Central Florida | 
      
      
      Hi John,  My wife and i are in Englewood till the 17th November.  We are
      also without our Europa out here and share your frustrations of this last
      flying season. Prhaps we cold make contact.
      Our no out here is 914 697 3908. Or e mail
      Pete and Sue
      
      
      Original Message:
      -----------------
      From:  Jhleuropa@aol.com
      Subject: Europa-List: Europa Owners in Central Florida
      
      
      My name is John Lace, Europa Builder 311.
      
      My Europa Monowheel, G - OJHL has been flying since 1999 and now has 300+  
      hours and is based at Prestwick in Scotland.  2007 has been a very 
      frustrating 
      year with Mod. 71 early in the year, followed by Mods. 73 and 74 in 
      August. I 
      also took the opportunity whilst dealing with Mod 74 to incorporate  Mod
      52, 
      the max. weight upgrade. The net result has been very little flying  this
      year.
      
      Since retirement in 1995 my wife and I spend our winters in the Bradenton  
      area of west Central Florida and we will be there at the end of October
      until  
      early March. I do some flying from a local airfield but only in spam cans. 
      
      I have not flown the Europa since August and as a consequence, I am  
      suffering from serious withdrawal symptoms. Is there anyone out there with
      a  Europa 
      in the Central Florida area who is in need of a copilot or even just a  
      passenger on the odd occasion during the next 4 months?
      
      I can be contacted at this address, _jhleuropa@aol.com_ 
      (mailto:jhleuropa@aol.com)  both here in Scotland and  in Florida. Also, my
      phone number in the US 
      is 941 723 3309.
      
      I will be extremely delighted to hear from anyone in the Europa fraternity  
      in the locality even if it is just to talk about the virtues of Europa's
      and 
      the  problems too for that matter.
      
      Heres hoping,   John Lace.
      
      
         
      
      
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| Subject:  | Europa Owners in Central Florida | 
      
      Peter-
      
      Dean Seitz is in Orlando and he has been down here to Punta Gorda before.  He would
      probably be up for a get-totether.  His e-mail is below.  I think he has
      about 130 hours on his plane.  If you arrange something, let me know.  We are
      always interested.  
      
      On another topic, we got tickets for a concert at the airport on November 4.  I
      have 4 and more can be had if necessary.  If Dean and his wife wanted to come
      down, I could pick up 2 more.  He could put his plane in my hangar.  From your
      point of view, it is Country music, the lead group is "Shedaisy" from Nashville
      and the gates open at 10:00 AM.  Lynne and I plan to go.  I have no idea if
      you like US Country music or not, but the concerts are always a good time. 
      From my point, I'm not nuts about country music, but as long as they have beer
      and hamburgers, it is OK.  This is the first one they have hosted at the airport,
      so I have no idea how it is going to come off. Also, the guy who wrote you,
      or Tony,  may be interested.  The tickets can be had for no charge for the
      next 10 days or so, so if there is interest let me know and I can pick them up.
      
      
      Worked some on my trailer for the plane today and the lift for the new sailboat
      last week.  I'll sure be glad when those two projects are done.  
      
      Dean Seitz E-mail :
      
      daseitz@cfl.rr.com
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "pjeffers@talktalk.net" <pjeffers@talktalk.net> 
      
      > 
      > 
      > Hi John, My wife and i are in Englewood till the 17th November. We are 
      > also without our Europa out here and share your frustrations of this last 
      > flying season. Prhaps we cold make contact. 
      > Our no out here is 914 697 3908. Or e mail 
      > Pete and Sue 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Original Message: 
      > ----------------- 
      > From: Jhleuropa@aol.com 
      > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:04:16 EDT 
      > To: europa-list@matronics.com 
      > Subject: Europa-List: Europa Owners in Central Florida 
      > 
      > 
      > My name is John Lace, Europa Builder 311. 
      > 
      > My Europa Monowheel, G - OJHL has been flying since 1999 and now has 300+ 
      > hours and is based at Prestwick in Scotland. 2007 has been a very 
      > frustrating 
      > year with Mod. 71 early in the year, followed by Mods. 73 and 74 in 
      > August. I 
      > also took the opportunity whilst dealing with Mod 74 to incorporate Mod 
      > 52, 
      > the max. weight upgrade. The net result has been very little flying this 
      > year. 
      > 
      > Since retirement in 1995 my wife and I spend our winters in the Bradenton 
      > area of west Central Florida and we will be there at the end of October 
      > until 
      > early March. I do some flying from a local airfield but only in spam cans. 
      > 
      > I have not flown the Europa since August and as a consequence, I am 
      > suffering from serious withdrawal symptoms. Is there anyone out there with 
      > a Europa 
      > in the Central Florida area who is in need of a copilot or even just a 
      > passenger on the odd occasion during the next 4 months? 
      > 
      > I can be contacted at this address, _jhleuropa@aol.com_ 
      > (mailto:jhleuropa@aol.com) both here in Scotland and in Florida. Also, my 
      > phone number in the US 
      > is 941 723 3309. 
      > 
      > I will be extremely delighted to hear from anyone in the Europa fraternity 
      > in the locality even if it is just to talk about the virtues of Europa's 
      > and 
      > the problems too for that matter. 
      > 
      > Heres hoping, John Lace. 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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      <DIV>Peter-</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>Dean Seitz is in Orlando and he has been down here to Punta Gorda before. 
      He would probably be up for a get-totether.  His e-mail is below. 
      I think he has about 130 hours on his plane.  If you arrange something,
      let me know.  We are always interested.  </DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>On another topic, we got tickets for a concert at the airport on November
      4.  I have 4 and more can be had if necessary.  If Dean and his wife
      wanted to come down, I could pick up 2 more.  He could put his plane in
      my hangar.  From your point of view, it is Country music, the lead group
      is "Shedaisy" from Nashville and the gates open at 10:00 AM.  Lynne and I
      plan to go.  I have no idea if you like US Country music or not, but the
      concerts are always a good time.  From my point, I'm not nuts about country
      music, but as long as they have beer and hamburgers, it is OK.  This
      is the first one they have hosted at the airport, so I have no idea how it is
      going to come off. Also, the guy who wrote you, or Tony,  may be
      interested.  The tickets can be had for no charge for the next 10
      days or so, so if there is interest let me know and I can pick them up. 
      </DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>Worked some on my trailer for the plane today and the lift for the new sailboat
      last week.  I'll sure be glad when those two projects are done. 
      </DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV>Dean Seitz E-mail :</DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
      <DIV><A href="mailto:daseitz@cfl.rr.com">daseitz@cfl.rr.com</A></DIV>
      <DIV> </DIV>
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      solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "pjeffers@talktalk.net"
      <pjeffers@talktalk.net> <BR><BR>> --> Europa-List message
      posted by: "pjeffers@talktalk.net" <BR>> <PJEFFERS@TALKTALK.NET><BR>>
      <BR>> Hi John, My wife and i are in Englewood till the 17th November. We
      are <BR>> also without our Europa out here and share your frustrations of this
      last <BR>> flying season. Prhaps we cold make contact. <BR>> Our no
      out here is 914 697 3908. Or e mail <BR>> Pete and Sue <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
      <BR>> Original Message: <BR>> ----------------- <BR>> From: Jhleuropa@aol.com
      <BR>> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:04:16 EDT <BR>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
      <BR>> Subject: Europa-List: Europa Owners in Central
      Florida <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> My name is John Lace, Europa Builder 311. <BR>>
      <BR>> My Europa Monowheel, G - OJHL has be
       en fly
      ing since 1999 and now has 300+ <BR>> hours and is based at Prestwick in Scotland.
      2007 has been a very <BR>> frustrating <BR>> year with Mod. 71 early
      in the year, followed by Mods. 73 and 74 in <BR>> August. I <BR>> also
      took the opportunity whilst dealing with Mod 74 to incorporate Mod <BR>>
      52, <BR>> the max. weight upgrade. The net result has been very little flying
      this <BR>> year. <BR>> <BR>> Since retirement in 1995 my wife and
      I spend our winters in the Bradenton <BR>> area of west Central Florida and
      we will be there at the end of October <BR>> until <BR>> early March.
      I do some flying from a local airfield but only in spam cans. <BR>> <BR>>
      I have not flown the Europa since August and as a consequence, I am <BR>>
      suffering from serious withdrawal symptoms. Is there anyone out there with <BR>>
      a Europa <BR>> in the Central Florida area who is in need of a copilot
      or even just a <BR>> passenger on the odd occas
       ion du
       Featur
      
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