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     2. 05:10 AM - Re: Europa Owners in Central Florida (Garry)
     3. 12:42 PM - Re: Europa Owners in Central Florida (Jeff B)
     4. 05:11 PM - Re: Europa Owners in Central Florida (Dean Seitz)
     5. 05:57 PM - Mod 73 alternative (Karl Heindl)
     6. 06:57 PM - Re: Mod 73 alternative (Bill and Sue)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Europa Owners in Central Florida | 
      
      Hi Jim & others
      
      
      Kate and I will be at Spruce Creek Fl. (near Daytona). from the 
      beginning of
      2008 through to the end of May. With our Europa. It would be great to
      arrange something either at our fly-in or somewhere in Florida if anyone 
      is
      interested in a winter get together. The advantage of Spruce creek is 
      that
      it=92s easy to find, has a good long runway with lots to see and we 
      usually
      provide good food and plenty of beer, as Dean will probably 
      testify.(looking
      forward to seeing you again Dean)
      
      John, is your mono. the one with the IOM emblem on the  side, as I have
      parked next to it many times at Prestwick and always wondered who owns 
      it.
      Especially as we live on the Isle of Man when not in Florida.
      
      So who=92s up for =93The great winter gathering=94 in sunny Florida ?
      
      Cheers
      
      
      Alan & Kate Burrows
      
      
         _____  
      
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      jimpuglise@comcast.net
      Sent: 22 October 2007 00:30
      Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa Owners in Central Florida
      
      
      Peter-
      
      
      Dean Seitz is in Orlando and he has been down here to Punta Gorda 
      before.
      He would probably be up for a get-totether.  His e-mail is below.  I 
      think
      he has about 130 hours on his plane.  If you arrange something, let me 
      know.
      We are always interested.  
      
      
      On another topic, we got tickets for a concert at the airport on 
      November 4.
      I have 4 and more can be had if necessary.  If Dean and his wife wanted 
      to
      come down, I could pick up 2 more.  He could put his plane in my hangar.
      >From your point of view, it is Country music, the lead group is 
      "Shedaisy"
      from Nashville and the gates open at 10:00 AM.  Lynne and I plan to go.  
      I
      have no idea if you like US Country music or not, but the concerts are
      always a good time.  From my point, I'm not nuts about country music, 
      but as
      long as they have beer and hamburgers, it is OK.  This is the first one 
      they
      have hosted at the airport, so I have no idea how it is going to come 
      off.
      Also, the guy who wrote you, or Tony,  may be interested.  The tickets 
      can
      be had for no charge for the next 10 days or so, so if there is interest 
      let
      me know and I can pick them up.  
      
      
      Worked some on my trailer for the plane today and the lift for the new
      sailboat last week.  I'll sure be glad when those two projects are done. 
      
      
      Dean Seitz E-mail :
      
      
      HYPERLINK "mailto:daseitz@cfl.rr.com"daseitz@cfl.rr.com
      
      
      -------------- Original message -------------- 
      From: "pjeffers@talktalk.net" <pjeffers@talktalk.net> 
      
      > 
      > 
      > Hi John, My wife and i are in Englewood till the 17th November. We are 
      
      > also without our Europa out here and share your frustrations of this 
      last 
      > flying season. Prhaps we cold make contact. 
      > Our no out here is 914 697 3908. Or e mail 
      > Pete and Sue 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Original Message: 
      > ----------------- 
      > From: Jhleuropa@aol.com 
      > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:04:16 EDT 
      > To: europa-list@matronics.com 
      > Subject: Europa-List: Europa Owners in Central Florida 
      > 
      > 
      > My name is John Lace, Europa Builder 311. 
      > 
      > My Europa Monowheel, G - OJHL has be en fly ing since 1999 and now has
      300+ 
      > hours and is based at Prestwick in Scotland. 2007 has been a very 
      > frustrating 
      > year with Mod. 71 early in the year, followed by Mods. 73 and 74 in 
      > August. I 
      > also took the opportunity whilst dealing with Mod 74 to incorporate 
      Mod 
      > 52, 
      > the max. weight upgrade. The net result has been very little flying 
      this 
      > year. 
      > 
      > Since retirement in 1995 my wife and I spend our winters in the 
      Bradenton 
      > area of west Central Florida and we will be there at the end of 
      October 
      > until 
      > early March. I do some flying from a local airfield but only in spam 
      cans.
      
      > 
      > I have not flown the Europa since August and as a consequence, I am 
      > suffering from serious withdrawal symptoms. Is there anyone out there 
      with
      
      > a Europa 
      > in the Central Florida area who is in need of a copilot or even just a 
      
      > passenger on the odd occas ion du Featur 
      
      
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      Nav
      igator?Europa-List
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      21/10/2007
      15:09
      
      
      21/10/2007
      15:09
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Europa Owners in Central Florida | 
      
      Count me in for a Spruce Creek gathering!  
      
      Garry Stout
      N4220S  914 Trigear
      Tampa, FL
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Alan Burrows 
        To: europa-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:11 AM
        Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa Owners in Central Florida
      
      
        Hi Jim & others
      
         
      
        Kate and I will be at Spruce Creek Fl. (near Daytona). from the 
      beginning of 2008 through to the end of May. With our Europa. It would 
      be great to arrange something either at our fly-in or somewhere in 
      Florida if anyone is interested in a winter get together. The advantage 
      of Spruce creek is that it=92s easy to find, has a good long runway with 
      lots to see and we usually provide good food and plenty of beer, as Dean 
      will probably testify.(looking forward to seeing you again Dean)
      
        John, is your mono. the one with the IOM emblem on the  side, as I 
      have parked next to it many times at Prestwick and always wondered who 
      owns it. Especially as we live on the Isle of Man when not in Florida.
      
        So who=92s up for =93The great winter gathering=94 in sunny Florida ?
      
        Cheers
      
         
      
        Alan & Kate Burrows
      
         
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -----
      
        From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 
      jimpuglise@comcast.net
        Sent: 22 October 2007 00:30
        To: europa-list@matronics.com
        Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa Owners in Central Florida
      
         
      
        Peter-
      
         
      
        Dean Seitz is in Orlando and he has been down here to Punta Gorda 
      before.  He would probably be up for a get-totether.  His e-mail is 
      below.  I think he has about 130 hours on his plane.  If you arrange 
      something, let me know.  We are always interested.  
      
         
      
        On another topic, we got tickets for a concert at the airport on 
      November 4.  I have 4 and more can be had if necessary.  If Dean and his 
      wife wanted to come down, I could pick up 2 more.  He could put his 
      plane in my hangar.  From your point of view, it is Country music, the 
      lead group is "Shedaisy" from Nashville and the gates open at 10:00 AM.  
      Lynne and I plan to go.  I have no idea if you like US Country music or 
      not, but the concerts are always a good time.  From my point, I'm not 
      nuts about country music, but as long as they have beer and hamburgers, 
      it is OK.  This is the first one they have hosted at the airport, so I 
      have no idea how it is going to come off. Also, the guy who wrote you, 
      or Tony,  may be interested.  The tickets can be had for no charge for 
      the next 10 days or so, so if there is interest let me know and I can 
      pick them up.  
      
         
      
        Worked some on my trailer for the plane today and the lift for the new 
      sailboat last week.  I'll sure be glad when those two projects are done. 
      
      
         
      
        Dean Seitz E-mail :
      
         
      
        daseitz@cfl.rr.com
      
         
      
          -------------- Original message -------------- 
          From: "pjeffers@talktalk.net" <pjeffers@talktalk.net> 
      
          > 
          > 
          > Hi John, My wife and i are in Englewood till the 17th November. We 
      are 
          > also without our Europa out here and share your frustrations of 
      this last 
          > flying season. Prhaps we cold make contact. 
          > Our no out here is 914 697 3908. Or e mail 
          > Pete and Sue 
          > 
          > 
          > 
          > Original Message: 
          > ----------------- 
          > From: Jhleuropa@aol.com 
          > Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:04:16 EDT 
          > To: europa-list@matronics.com 
          > Subject: Europa-List: Europa Owners in Central Florida 
          > 
          > 
          > My name is John Lace, Europa Builder 311. 
          > 
          > My Europa Monowheel, G - OJHL has be en fly ing since 1999 and now 
      has 300+ 
          > hours and is based at Prestwick in Scotland. 2007 has been a very 
          > frustrating 
          > year with Mod. 71 early in the year, followed by Mods. 73 and 74 
      in 
          > August. I 
          > also took the opportunity whilst dealing with Mod 74 to 
      incorporate Mod 
          > 52, 
          > the max. weight upgrade. The net result has been very little 
      flying this 
          > year. 
          > 
          > Since retirement in 1995 my wife and I spend our winters in the 
      Bradenton 
          > area of west Central Florida and we will be there at the end of 
      October 
          > until 
          > early March. I do some flying from a local airfield but only in 
      spam cans. 
          > 
          > I have not flown the Europa since August and as a consequence, I 
      am 
          > suffering from serious withdrawal symptoms. Is there anyone out 
      there with 
          > a Europa 
          > in the Central Florida area who is in need of a copilot or even 
      just a 
          > passenger on the odd occas ion du Featur 
      
         
        21/10/2007 15:09
      
      
        21/10/2007 15:09
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Europa Owners in Central Florida | 
      
      
      Alan, Mary and I would be up for another gathering...
      
      Jeff - Baby Blue
      336 hours
      
      Alan Burrows wrote:
      > Hi Jim & others
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > Kate and I will be at Spruce Creek Fl. (near Daytona). from the 
      > beginning of 2008 through to the end of May. With our Europa. It would 
      > be great to arrange something either at our fly-in or somewhere in 
      > Florida if anyone is interested in a winter get together. The advantage 
      > of Spruce creek is that its easy to find, has a good long runway with 
      > lots to see and we usually provide good food and plenty of beer, as Dean 
      > will probably testify.(looking forward to seeing you again Dean)
      > 
      > John, is your mono. the one with the IOM emblem on the  side, as I have 
      > parked next to it many times at Prestwick and always wondered who owns 
      > it. Especially as we live on the Isle of Man when not in Florida.
      > 
      > So whos up for The great winter gathering in sunny Florida ?
      > 
      > Cheers
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > Alan & Kate Burrows
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
      > 
      > *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 
      > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of 
      > *jimpuglise@comcast.net
      > *Sent:* 22 October 2007 00:30
      > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
      > *Subject:* RE: Europa-List: Europa Owners in Central Florida
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > Peter-
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > Dean Seitz is in Orlando and he has been down here to Punta Gorda 
      > before.  He would probably be up for a get-totether.  His e-mail is 
      > below.  I think he has about 130 hours on his plane.  If you arrange 
      > something, let me know.  We are always interested. 
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > On another topic, we got tickets for a concert at the airport on 
      > November 4.  I have 4 and more can be had if necessary.  If Dean and his 
      > wife wanted to come down, I could pick up 2 more.  He could put his 
      > plane in my hangar.  From your point of view, it is Country music, the 
      > lead group is "Shedaisy" from Nashville and the gates open at 10:00 AM.  
      > Lynne and I plan to go.  I have no idea if you like US Country music or 
      > not, but the concerts are always a good time.  From my point, I'm not 
      > nuts about country music, but as long as they have beer and hamburgers, 
      > it is OK.  This is the first one they have hosted at the airport, so I 
      > have no idea how it is going to come off. Also, the guy who wrote you, 
      > or Tony,  may be interested.  The tickets can be had for no charge for 
      > the next 10 days or so, so if there is interest let me know and I can 
      > pick them up. 
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > Worked some on my trailer for the plane today and the lift for the new 
      > sailboat last week.  I'll sure be glad when those two projects are done. 
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > Dean Seitz E-mail :
      > 
      >  
      > 
      > daseitz@cfl.rr.com <mailto:daseitz@cfl.rr.com>
      > 
      >  
      > 
      >     -------------- Original message --------------
      >     From: "pjeffers@talktalk.net" <pjeffers@talktalk.net>
      > 
      >     >
      >     >
      >     >  Hi John, My wife and i are in Englewood till the 17th November. We
      >     are
      >     >  also without our Europa out here and share your frustrations of
      >     this last
      >     >  flying season. Prhaps we cold make contact.
      >     >  Our no out here is 914 697 3908. Or e mail
      >     >  Pete and Sue
      >     >
      >     >
      >     >
      >     >  Original Message:
      >     >  -----------------
      >     >  From: Jhleuropa@aol.com
      >     >  Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:04:16 EDT
      >     >  To: europa-list@matronics.com
      >     >  Subject: Europa-List: Europa Owners in Central Florida
      >     >
      >     >
      >     >  My name is John Lace, Europa Builder 311.
      >     >
      >     >  My Europa Monowheel, G - OJHL has be en fly ing since 1999 and now
      >     has 300+
      >     >  hours and is based at Prestwick in Scotland. 2007 has been a very
      >     >  frustrating
      >     >  year with Mod. 71 early in the year, followed by Mods. 73 and 74 in
      >     >  August. I
      >     >  also took the opportunity whilst dealing with Mod 74 to
      >     incorporate Mod
      >     >  52,
      >     >  the max. weight upgrade. The net result has been very little
      >     flying this
      >     >  year.
      >     >
      >     >  Since retirement in 1995 my wife and I spend our winters in the
      >     Bradenton
      >     >  area of west Central Florida and we will be there at the end of
      >     October
      >     >  until
      >     >  early March. I do some flying from a local airfield but only in
      >     spam cans.
      >     >
      >     >  I have not flown the Europa since August and as a consequence, I am
      >     >  suffering from serious withdrawal symptoms. Is there anyone out
      >     there with
      >     >  a Europa
      >     >  in the Central Florida area who is in need of a copilot or even
      >     just a
      >     >  passenger on the odd occas ion du Featur
      > 
      >     * *
      > 
      >     * *
      > 
      >     **
      > 
      >     **
      > 
      >     **
      > 
      >     **
      > 
      >     **
      > 
      >     **
      > 
      >     * *
      > 
      > 
      > 21/10/2007 15:09
      > 
      > 
      > 21/10/2007 15:09
      > 
      > *
      > 
      > 
      > *
      > 
      > 
      > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Europa Owners in Central Florida | 
      
      
      Hey there Alan and Jim and others,
      
      I am still here just real busy still trying to get our business started. Let
      me know when and I'll try to get the time to go. Haven't been doing much
      flying lately.
      
      Just for what its worth, I had to get my plane appraised for the business
      from a professional aircraft appraisal company, this guy was pretty strict
      on paperwork and logs, and it came in at $85,000. Would have liked it a
      little higher but what do you expect from a place that appraises million
      dollar jets ect.
      
      Dean Seitz
      N284A
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Burrows
      Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:11 AM
      Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa Owners in Central Florida
      
      Hi Jim & others
      
      
      Kate and I will be at Spruce Creek Fl. (near Daytona). from the beginning of
      2008 through to the end of May. With our Europa. It would be great to
      arrange something either at our fly-in or somewhere in Florida if anyone is
      interested in a winter get together. The advantage of Spruce creek is that
      it's easy to find, has a good long runway with lots to see and we usually
      provide good food and plenty of beer, as Dean will probably testify.(looking
      forward to seeing you again Dean)
      
      John, is your mono. the one with the IOM emblem on the  side, as I have
      parked next to it many times at Prestwick and always wondered who owns it.
      Especially as we live on the Isle of Man when not in Florida.
      
      So who's up for "The great winter gathering" in sunny Florida ?
      
      Cheers
      
      
      Alan & Kate Burrows
      
      
      ________________________________
      
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      jimpuglise@comcast.net
      Sent: 22 October 2007 00:30
      Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa Owners in Central Florida
      
      
      Peter-
      
      
      Dean Seitz is in Orlando and he has been down here to Punta Gorda before.
      He would probably be up for a get-totether.  His e-mail is below.  I think
      he has about 130 hours on his plane.  If you arrange something, let me know.
      We are always interested.  
      
      
      On another topic, we got tickets for a concert at the airport on November 4.
      I have 4 and more can be had if necessary.  If Dean and his wife wanted to
      come down, I could pick up 2 more.  He could put his plane in my hangar.
      >From your point of view, it is Country music, the lead group is "Shedaisy"
      from Nashville and the gates open at 10:00 AM.  Lynne and I plan to go.  I
      have no idea if you like US Country music or not, but the concerts are
      always a good time.  From my point, I'm not nuts about country music, but as
      long as they have beer and hamburgers, it is OK.  This is the first one they
      have hosted at the airport, so I have no idea how it is going to come off.
      Also, the guy who wrote you, or Tony,  may be interested.  The tickets can
      be had for no charge for the next 10 days or so, so if there is interest let
      me know and I can pick them up.  
      
      
      Worked some on my trailer for the plane today and the lift for the new
      sailboat last week.  I'll sure be glad when those two projects are done.  
      
      
      Dean Seitz E-mail :
      
      
      daseitz@cfl.rr.com
      
      
      	-------------- Original message -------------- 
      	From: "pjeffers@talktalk.net" <pjeffers@talktalk.net> 
      	
      	> 
      	> 
      	> Hi John, My wife and i are in Englewood till the 17th November. We
      are 
      	> also without our Europa out here and share your frustrations of
      this last 
      	> flying season. Prhaps we cold make contact. 
      	> Our no out here is 914 697 3908. Or e mail 
      	> Pete and Sue 
      	> 
      	> 
      	> 
      	> Original Message: 
      	> ----------------- 
      	> From: Jhleuropa@aol.com 
      	> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 14:04:16 EDT 
      	> To: europa-list@matronics.com 
      	> Subject: Europa-List: Europa Owners in Central Florida 
      	> 
      	> 
      	> My name is John Lace, Europa Builder 311. 
      	> 
      	> My Europa Monowheel, G - OJHL has be en fly ing since 1999 and now
      has 300+ 
      	> hours and is based at Prestwick in Scotland. 2007 has been a very 
      	> frustrating 
      	> year with Mod. 71 early in the year, followed by Mods. 73 and 74
      in 
      	> August. I 
      	> also took the opportunity whilst dealing with Mod 74 to
      incorporate Mod 
      	> 52, 
      	> the max. weight upgrade. The net result has been very little
      flying this 
      	> year. 
      	> 
      	> Since retirement in 1995 my wife and I spend our winters in the
      Bradenton 
      	> area of west Central Florida and we will be there at the end of
      October 
      	> until 
      	> early March. I do some flying from a local airfield but only in
      spam cans. 
      	> 
      	> I have not flown the Europa since August and as a consequence, I
      am 
      	> suffering from serious withdrawal symptoms. Is there anyone out
      there with 
      	> a Europa 
      	> in the Central Florida area who is in need of a copilot or even
      just a 
      	> passenger on the odd occas ion du Featur 
      
      	 
      	 
      	
      	
      	
      	
      	
      	
      	 
      
      
      21/10/2007 15:09
      
      
      21/10/2007 15:09
      
      
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| Subject:  | Mod 73 alternative | 
      
      
      
      My original plan was to replace both TP5 and TP6 with a single tube.
      After removing the TP5 I realized that there was no point at all in removing 
      the TP6. It is only necessary to ensure that it cannot move inboard, which 
      would then allow the TP12 to disconnect from the tailplane etc. etc.
      I simply replaced the TP5 with a longer alu tube from ACS, part number 
      03-37900. This butts right up against the TP6, and there is no way this can 
      ever move inboard. The tube is made of 6061 T6 aluminum.
      Advantages:
      A straightforward mod.
      No cutting into the tailplane.
      No misalignment problem with TP5 and TP6.
      A permanent solution. ( assuming that there was a problem in the first 
      place.)
      If anyone is interested I can give more details on how I did it.
      
      Cheers,
      
      Karl
      
      _________________________________________________________________
      The next generation of Hotmail is here!  http://www.newhotmail.co.uk
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Mod 73 alternative | 
      
      
      Yes I would be interested as I have not done mine yet .
      
      Mono XS
      ZK CHV
      914 Airmaster
      
      Rgds
      
      Sue & Bill
      
      
      Karl Heindl wrote:
      >
      >
      > My original plan was to replace both TP5 and TP6 with a single tube.
      > After removing the TP5 I realized that there was no point at all in 
      > removing the TP6. It is only necessary to ensure that it cannot move 
      > inboard, which would then allow the TP12 to disconnect from the 
      > tailplane etc. etc.
      > I simply replaced the TP5 with a longer alu tube from ACS, part number 
      > 03-37900. This butts right up against the TP6, and there is no way 
      > this can ever move inboard. The tube is made of 6061 T6 aluminum.
      > Advantages:
      > A straightforward mod.
      > No cutting into the tailplane.
      > No misalignment problem with TP5 and TP6.
      > A permanent solution. ( assuming that there was a problem in the first 
      > place.)
      > If anyone is interested I can give more details on how I did it.
      >
      > Cheers,
      >
      > Karl
      >
      > _________________________________________________________________
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