---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 10/31/07: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:37 AM - MPD 2007-005 R1 (Richard Holder) 2. 05:36 AM - Re: MPD 2007-005 R1 (Robt.C.Harrison) 3. 07:22 AM - Re: MPD 2007-005 R1 (Steve Pitt) 4. 10:44 AM - Panel Autocad drawing (Bill & Sue) 5. 11:33 AM - AW: Panel Autocad drawing (Europa (Alfred Buess)) 6. 12:02 PM - Re: AW: Panel Autocad drawing (Bill & Sue) 7. 12:32 PM - Re: MPD 2007-005 R1 (Mike Gregory) 8. 02:33 PM - compass (Paul Stewart) 9. 02:40 PM - FW: MPD 2007-005 R1.....implications with Torque Tube Clamp Mod. (Robt.C.Harrison) 10. 04:26 PM - New Prop / Cooling (JEFF ROBERTS) 11. 07:19 PM - Re: compass (Tom Friedland) 12. 07:26 PM - Re: compass (Tom Friedland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:37:14 AM PST US From: Richard Holder Subject: Europa-List: MPD 2007-005 R1 I got this through the post from the CAA this morning. It refers to PFA 247/FSB-004 Issue 4. I have issue three. Where is issue 4 ? Richard Holder G-OWWW High Cross ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:31 AM PST US From: "Robt.C.Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: MPD 2007-005 R1 Hi! Richard/all I have it from Andy Draper that Issue 4 is to do with the use of Loctite. However I also have assurances that those with my PFA approved Torque Tube clamps are exempt from the Loctite requirement. ...Not sure yet about the 10 hour inspection requirement.. however. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Holder Sent: 31 October 2007 11:35 Subject: Europa-List: MPD 2007-005 R1 I got this through the post from the CAA this morning. It refers to PFA 247/FSB-004 Issue 4. I have issue three. Where is issue 4 ? Richard Holder G-OWWW High Cross -- 30/10/2007 18:26 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:48 AM PST US From: "Steve Pitt" Subject: Re: Europa-List: MPD 2007-005 R1 The PFA advise that the CAA were too quick off the mark and the Issue 4 will be on its way to all owners hopefully by the end of this week. Steve Pitt #403 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:44:49 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Panel Autocad drawing From: "Bill & Sue" Does anyone have an Autocad drawing of the panel they'd be prepared to post please? I was intending to potter about with an Autocad drawing of my panel partly because I'm a bit limited on what I can do to the plane until I find a new workshop and also as an exercise to familiarise myself with Autocad. I took some measurements of my panel and drew up a blank -which is clearly wrong! I must have cocked-up the measurements but re-measuring it involves two hours driving at present... hence the request. Thanks Bill Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142961#142961 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:33:55 AM PST US From: "Europa (Alfred Buess)" Subject: AW: Europa-List: Panel Autocad drawing Bill, I have DWG-Files of my XS monowheel panel. If this is what you need, let me know. Regards, Alfred Alfred Buess CH-3052 Zollikofen, Switzerland Europa XS #097, Monowheel, Foam shortwing, Rotax 912S, Airmaster 332 CS -----Ursprngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Bill & Sue Gesendet: Mittwoch, 31. Oktober 2007 18:40 An: europa-list@matronics.com Betreff: Europa-List: Panel Autocad drawing --> Does anyone have an Autocad drawing of the panel they'd be prepared to post please? I was intending to potter about with an Autocad drawing of my panel partly because I'm a bit limited on what I can do to the plane until I find a new workshop and also as an exercise to familiarise myself with Autocad. I took some measurements of my panel and drew up a blank -which is clearly wrong! I must have cocked-up the measurements but re-measuring it involves two hours driving at present... hence the request. Thanks Bill Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142961#142961 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:02:58 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: AW: Panel Autocad drawing From: "Bill & Sue" Alfred, Thanks Alfred, that's exactly what I need but, despite your extremely swift response, Vaughn Teegarden just beat you to it!- I've just responded to a similar offer from him. So it's very kind of you and much appreciated, but I should have his files shortly. Best wishes Bill Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=142970#142970 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:32:30 PM PST US From: "Mike Gregory" Subject: RE: Europa-List: MPD 2007-005 R1 Bob, I understand from Francis Donaldson that the CAA were a bit ahead of the game and that PFA 247/FSB-004 Issue 4 is being distributed and will be posted on the PFA web site tomorrow. The use of Loctite will then allow the 10 hour inspection to revert to an annual inspection. I asked Francis specifically about your Torque Tube clamps and the 10 hour inspection, and he said that you would have to make a case to the PFA for aircraft fitted with your clamps to be exempt from the 10 hour inspection -- no doubt he would wish to know how many aircraft had been fitted and whether any player had been found during the 10 hour inspections already carried out. Please argue your case with Francis: you don't need to convince me of the effectiveness of your clamps. Regards Mike Europa Club Safety Officer -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robt.C.Harrison Sent: 31 October 2007 12:34 Subject: RE: Europa-List: MPD 2007-005 R1 Hi! Richard/all I have it from Andy Draper that Issue 4 is to do with the use of Loctite. However I also have assurances that those with my PFA approved Torque Tube clamps are exempt from the Loctite requirement. ...Not sure yet about the 10 hour inspection requirement.. however. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Holder Sent: 31 October 2007 11:35 Subject: Europa-List: MPD 2007-005 R1 I got this through the post from the CAA this morning. It refers to PFA 247/FSB-004 Issue 4. I have issue three. Where is issue 4 ? Richard Holder G-OWWW High Cross -- 30/10/2007 18:26 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:33:19 PM PST US From: Paul Stewart Subject: Europa-List: compass Anyone got ant photos of where they have mounted a compass ( along with which model). Regards Paul G-GIDY ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:40:49 PM PST US From: "Robt.C.Harrison" Subject: FW: Europa-List: MPD 2007-005 R1.....implications with Torque Tube Clamp Mod. Hi! All who have invested in my Torque Tube Clamp Mod. I am not aware of anyone finding tail plane slop after fitting my clamps (except those who I attended to on a recall basis due to Europa using differing tube sizes.) It seems I may have to comply with the PFA and prove none have shown slop since fitting although I clearly understood to the contrary by my conversation with Andy Draper. You have all completed the slop checks on the 10 hourly requirements presumably at great inspection expense and are therefore aware of any slop to aircraft fitted with the clamps. Please e-mail me immediately EITHER WAY and advise should you have experienced such problems with the clamps fitted or continued satisfaction with NO slop.( my e-mail address is :- ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk Without this information served on a plate to the PFA I expect the "ostrich approach" to prevail with regard to 10 hour inspections! So it is very much in your interests to mail me urgently. Sorry for this nuisance request. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Gregory Sent: 31 October 2007 19:26 Subject: RE: Europa-List: MPD 2007-005 R1 Bob, I understand from Francis Donaldson that the CAA were a bit ahead of the game and that PFA 247/FSB-004 Issue 4 is being distributed and will be posted on the PFA web site tomorrow. The use of Loctite will then allow the 10 hour inspection to revert to an annual inspection. I asked Francis specifically about your Torque Tube clamps and the 10 hour inspection, and he said that you would have to make a case to the PFA for aircraft fitted with your clamps to be exempt from the 10 hour inspection -- no doubt he would wish to know how many aircraft had been fitted and whether any player had been found during the 10 hour inspections already carried out. Please argue your case with Francis: you don't need to convince me of the effectiveness of your clamps. Regards Mike Europa Club Safety Officer -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robt.C.Harrison Sent: 31 October 2007 12:34 Subject: RE: Europa-List: MPD 2007-005 R1 Hi! Richard/all I have it from Andy Draper that Issue 4 is to do with the use of Loctite. However I also have assurances that those with my PFA approved Torque Tube clamps are exempt from the Loctite requirement. ...Not sure yet about the 10 hour inspection requirement.. however. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Holder Sent: 31 October 2007 11:35 Subject: Europa-List: MPD 2007-005 R1 I got this through the post from the CAA this morning. It refers to PFA 247/FSB-004 Issue 4. I have issue three. Where is issue 4 ? Richard Holder G-OWWW High Cross -- 30/10/2007 18:26 -- 30/10/2007 18:26 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:26:12 PM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Europa-List: New Prop / Cooling Of course it's hard to tell (As the temps have dropped in Tennessee) but I believe I've solved my cooling issues with the new Sensinich prop It appears as though it's made a big difference. If your not going with the warp drive then I would strongly consider this new carbon fiber prop. Same 3000 ft same 5400 RPM's I am seeing 130KTS instead of 120 on my tri-gear Gold Rush. At 5000 RPM's it holds 120KTS at 65 degrees outside. I now have another issue. Can anyone tell me the allowable CHT spread? I'm seeing 50 to 80 degree spreads and couldn't find the limit in the manual. Any info would be appreciated. Regards, Jeff R. A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 95 hours and climbing slowly. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:19:31 PM PST US From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: compass Hi Paul I will try to send you a photo of my panel that has the compass installed. Yes , I know, when you put the compass in the panel that electrical currents can cause problems. When I turn the power onto the panel, I get about a 1/2 degree change and I should be able to trim that out although in the day of gps who follows a compass that close? Tom On Oct 31, 2007 2:31 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: > > Anyone got ant photos of where they have mounted a compass ( along > with which model). > > Regards > > Paul > G-GIDY > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:26:19 PM PST US From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: compass Oh, oh. I have evidently erased it from the disk. It is a cheepo Falcon made in China with a 2 inch face. It is lighted. If you are interested, I can take another photo. Tom On Oct 31, 2007 7:17 PM, Tom Friedland <96victor@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Paul > > I will try to send you a photo of my panel that has the compass > installed. Yes , I know, when you put the compass in the panel that > electrical currents can cause problems. When I turn the power onto the > panel, I get about a 1/2 degree change and I should be able to trim that out > although in the day of gps who follows a compass that close? > > Tom > > On Oct 31, 2007 2:31 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: > > > > > > > > Anyone got ant photos of where they have mounted a compass ( along > > with which model). > > > > Regards > > > > Paul > > G-GIDY > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.