---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 11/02/07: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:30 AM - Re: DOTH anyone? (bryan allsop) 2. 01:37 AM - Re: DOTH anyone? (William Harrison) 3. 05:38 AM - Europa Service Bulletin No 15 (G-IANI) 4. 07:45 AM - Track Data (G-IANI) 5. 08:09 AM - Re: Europa Service Bulletin No 15 (Karl Heindl) 6. 08:32 AM - Re: Europa Service Bulletin No 15 (Richard Holder) 7. 11:50 AM - Re: DOTH anyone? (nigel charles) 8. 12:16 PM - Re: fuel system (danbish) 9. 12:17 PM - Re: fuel system (danbish) 10. 12:42 PM - Re: Europa Service Bulletin No 15 (steve v) 11. 02:22 PM - Re: Europa Service Bulletin No 15 (Karl Heindl) 12. 02:55 PM - Re: fuel system (William Daniell) 13. 03:48 PM - Re: Europa Service Bulletin No 15 (Duncan & Ami McFadyean) 14. 03:49 PM - Europa Service Bulletin No 15 (Fred Klein) 15. 09:27 PM - Re: fuel system (Ralph K. Hallett III) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:30:43 AM PST US From: bryan allsop Subject: RE: Europa-List: DOTH anyone? It'l be nice to see you. Watch the blood pressure though! Cheers Bryan From: ptag.dev@tiscali.co.ukTo: europa-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Europ a-List: DOTH anyone?Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 22:17:33 +0000 I may make it. Enjoyed my trip to Sleap today. Regards Bob H G-PTAG -----Original Message-----From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mai lto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bryan allsopSent: 01 November 2007 19:39To: Europa GroupSubject: Europa-List: DOTH anyone? In the absence of any other propositions I am going drop into Santoft tomor row (Friday). Pilot November freebie. The last Doth was excellent due to pl enty of advance publicity. Sorry about the short notice, this time I will b e happy to see anyone. Happy flying. Bryan Allsop Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! Get 'em! - The Europa- List Email Forum - --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - --> http://forums.matronics.com _________________________________________________________________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Caf=E9. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Oc tWLtagline ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:37:31 AM PST US From: William Harrison Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH anyone? I'm aiming to be there too provided I can reach escape velocity from earthbound constraints. Willie Harrison G-BZNY * Special Europa historical footnote: if I can make it I'll bring my mate Gordon Craig with whom I used to share ownership of the very same PA28 which featured briefly in "A Plane is Born" (when our hero is being shown all the common light aircraft types at the PFA Rally - "..and here's the trusty old Piper Warrior..etc") On 1 Nov 2007, at 19:38, bryan allsop wrote: > In the absence of any other propositions I am going drop into > Santoft tomorrow (Friday). Pilot November freebie. > > The last Doth was excellent due to plenty of advance publicity. > Sorry about the short notice, this time I will be happy to see anyone. > > Happy flying. > > Bryan Allsop > > Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! Get 'em! > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > =========================================================== > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:26 AM PST US From: "G-IANI" Subject: Europa-List: Europa Service Bulletin No 15 The Bulletin covering the use of Loctite 603 is now on the Europa web site Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:49 AM PST US From: "G-IANI" Subject: Europa-List: Track Data Does anyone have a good way to get the track data out of my Skymap 111c and into Memory map? I can download the data from the 111C using FliteStar (the only thing I know that will talk to the 111c). FliteStar will also save it in a text file and display it in a crude fashion. I would like to get the data into Memory Map which does a better job of displaying the results and has both the CAA charts and the 50,000 OS maps. This will handle a number of formats but not what I get from FliteStar. I have looked at GPSBabel which might do the conversion but is so complex I have yet to work out how. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:25 AM PST US From: "Karl Heindl" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa Service Bulletin No 15 Hi Ian, Exactly where should we look. I looked at Europa-aircraft.co.uk, europaclub.org.uk, pfa.org.uk, and caa.co.uk/docs/536/MPD%202007005%20REV%201.pdf All I could find is a note under Latest News in Europa-aircraft.co.uk Cheers, Karl >From: "G-IANI" >To: >Subject: Europa-List: Europa Service Bulletin No 15 >Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:37:23 -0000 > > > >The Bulletin covering the use of Loctite 603 is now on the Europa web >site > > >Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear >Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) >e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk > or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com > > _________________________________________________________________ Free update to Windows Live Hotmail http://www.newhotmail.co.uk ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:32:37 AM PST US From: Richard Holder Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Service Bulletin No 15 Karl Heindl wrote: > Hi Ian, > > Exactly where should we look. I looked at > Europa-aircraft.co.uk, europaclub.org.uk, pfa.org.uk, > and caa.co.uk/docs/536/MPD%202007005%20REV%201.pdf > > All I could find is a note under Latest News in > Europa-aircraft.co.uk You were in the right place. It is under "Service Bulletins" on the "Technical" page on the europa-aircraft.co.uk site Richard Holder G-OWWW High Cross ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:50:06 AM PST US From: "nigel charles" Subject: RE: Europa-List: DOTH anyone? I am not able to get involved in a DOTH until Monday. If the weather is good then and anyone would like to meet up let me know. Regards Nigel -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Harrison Sent: 02 November 2007 08:36 Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH anyone? I'm aiming to be there too provided I can reach escape velocity from earthbound constraints. Willie Harrison G-BZNY * Special Europa historical footnote: if I can make it I'll bring my mate Gordon Craig with whom I used to share ownership of the very same PA28 which featured briefly in "A Plane is Born" (when our hero is being shown all the common light aircraft types at the PFA Rally - "..and here's the trusty old Piper Warrior..etc") On 1 Nov 2007, at 19:38, bryan allsop wrote: In the absence of any other propositions I am going drop into Santoft tomorrow (Friday). Pilot November freebie. The last Doth was excellent due to plenty of advance publicity. Sorry about the short notice, this time I will be happy to see anyone. Happy flying. Bryan Allsop _____ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! Get 'em! - The Europa-List Email Forum class="Apple-converted-space"> --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - class="Apple-converted-space"> --> http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:16:29 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: fuel system From: "danbish" Will, Have a look at: http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album164&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php Or if the link doesn't work, go to the 2nd page of the gallery and look for my photo album. The fuel system is in an album of it's own. I used R9 fuel injection hose where I need the rubber stuff, and aluminum tube (3/8" versatube) everywhere else. I have an Andair fuel selector and gascolator as well. I just got in my Floscan fuel flow sensor that will be installed this weekend and will go just before the rear fuel filters. Right now I have dual fuel filters both in the seat pans and just prior to the gascolator. This may seem like over-kill but after I have 25 or so hours on the plane, I may remove the rear filters and just rely on the ones up front. I put everything on bread boards so they're easy to remove. Let me know if you have any questions. Dan Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:17:46 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: fuel system From: "danbish" Will, Have a look at: http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album164&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php Or if the link doesn't work, go to the 2nd page of the gallery and look for my photo album. The fuel system is in an album of it's own. I used R9 fuel injection hose where I need the rubber stuff, and aluminum tube (3/8" versatube) everywhere else. I have an Andair fuel selector and gascolator as well. I just got in my Floscan fuel flow sensor that will be installed this weekend and will go just before the rear fuel filters. Right now I have dual fuel filters both in the seat pans and just prior to the gascolator. This may seem like over-kill but after I have 25 or so hours on the plane, I may remove the rear filters and just rely on the ones up front. I put everything on bread boards so they're easy to remove. Let me know if you have any questions. Dan Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:42:46 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Service Bulletin No 15 From: "steve v " Hi, Having just read SB15, Does anyone know if the Factory are supplying the "degreaser" and if not, what are other builders using?, i would think some sort of airosol might be best, also, the hanger is fairly cold and damp this time of year so does the T/T need to be warmed with a hair dryer B4 applying 603 or not? Steve # 573 G-CEBV Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:22:10 PM PST US From: "Karl Heindl" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Service Bulletin No 15 Thank you, Richard. I must have been looking at that page without seeing it. I think my brain was locked into a reference to mod 75. >From: Richard Holder >To: europa-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Service Bulletin No 15 >Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:30:18 +0000 > > > >Karl Heindl wrote: > >>Hi Ian, >> >>Exactly where should we look. I looked at >>Europa-aircraft.co.uk, europaclub.org.uk, pfa.org.uk, >>and caa.co.uk/docs/536/MPD%202007005%20REV%201.pdf >> >>All I could find is a note under Latest News in >>Europa-aircraft.co.uk > >You were in the right place. It is under "Service >Bulletins" on the "Technical" page on the >europa-aircraft.co.uk site > >Richard Holder >G-OWWW High Cross > > _________________________________________________________________ Can you see your house from the sky? Try Live Search Maps http://maps.live.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:55:43 PM PST US From: "William Daniell" Subject: RE: Europa-List: fuel system Thanks Will -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of danbish Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 14:16 Subject: Re: Europa-List: fuel system Will, Have a look at: http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album164&op=modload&na me=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php Or if the link doesn't work, go to the 2nd page of the gallery and look for my photo album. The fuel system is in an album of it's own. I used R9 fuel injection hose where I need the rubber stuff, and aluminum tube (3/8" versatube) everywhere else. I have an Andair fuel selector and gascolator as well. I just got in my Floscan fuel flow sensor that will be installed this weekend and will go just before the rear fuel filters. Right now I have dual fuel filters both in the seat pans and just prior to the gascolator. This may seem like over-kill but after I have 25 or so hours on the plane, I may remove the rear filters and just rely on the ones up front. I put everything on bread boards so they're easy to remove. Let me know if you have any questions. Dan Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org 18:47 18:47 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 03:48:17 PM PST US From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Service Bulletin No 15 Try the 'refresh' button; your computer may be reloading an old page if you've visited the same address recently. Duncan McF do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Heindl" Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 9:20 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Service Bulletin No 15 > > > Thank you, Richard. I must have been looking at that page without seeing > it. I think my brain was locked into a reference to mod 75. > > >>From: Richard Holder >>To: europa-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa Service Bulletin No 15 >>Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:30:18 +0000 >> >> >> >> >>Karl Heindl wrote: >> >>>Hi Ian, >>> >>>Exactly where should we look. I looked at >>>Europa-aircraft.co.uk, europaclub.org.uk, pfa.org.uk, >>>and caa.co.uk/docs/536/MPD%202007005%20REV%201.pdf >>> >>>All I could find is a note under Latest News in >>>Europa-aircraft.co.uk >> >>You were in the right place. It is under "Service >>Bulletins" on the "Technical" page on the >>europa-aircraft.co.uk site >> >>Richard Holder >>G-OWWW High Cross >> >> >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Can you see your house from the sky? Try Live Search Maps > http://maps.live.com > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 03:49:06 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Europa Service Bulletin No 15 From: Fred Klein I note the reference in the SB to how quickly Loctite 603 sets up. I've heard this before and have done some tests w/ aluminum flat stock and have found 603 to have a working life of over five minutes at 60 +/- degrees F. This would seem like plenty of time, at least for anyone like myself who has yet to bond the fuselage top on, to apply a goodly amount of 603 to the torque tube, spin TP9 a bit to spread a nice film, and drive the pins home before set up. Seems to me the essence of this SB is for the loctite bond to take the torsional/impact loads rather than the drive pins...if that's so, why skimp on the 603? Fred A194 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:27:54 PM PST US From: "Ralph K. Hallett III" Subject: Re: Europa-List: fuel system Dan, Thanks for the link, I've been struggling with the fuel system for months, think you just knocked me back into motion. Very clever. Ralph RK Hallett III Reno, NV motorglider parts ;) getting closer together... danbish wrote: > > Will, > > Have a look at: > > http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album164&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php > > Or if the link doesn't work, go to the 2nd page of the gallery and look for my photo album. The fuel system is in an album of it's own. > > I used R9 fuel injection hose where I need the rubber stuff, and aluminum tube (3/8" versatube) everywhere else. I have an Andair fuel selector and gascolator as well. I just got in my Floscan fuel flow sensor that will be installed this weekend and will go just before the rear fuel filters. > > Right now I have dual fuel filters both in the seat pans and just prior to the gascolator. This may seem like over-kill but after I have 25 or so hours on the plane, I may remove the rear filters and just rely on the ones up front. I put everything on bread boards so they're easy to remove. > > Let me know if you have any questions. > > Dan > > > Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.