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1. 12:53 AM - Re: Fw: turbo problem? (rparigoris)
2. 01:24 AM - Re: Fw: turbo problem? (rparigoris)
3. 08:20 AM - Re: Fw: turbo problem? (kbcarpenter@comcast.net)
4. 12:05 PM - Re: Fw: turbo problem? (Gilles Thesee)
5. 07:13 PM - Re: UK pilots - DOTH (bryan allsop)
6. 09:55 PM - Re: Fw: turbo problem? (William Daniell)
7. 10:41 PM - AW: Fw: turbo problem? (UVTReith)
8. 10:58 PM - Re: Fw: turbo problem? (craig bastin)
9. 11:05 PM - Re: Fw: turbo problem? (craig bastin)
10. 11:52 PM - Re: UK pilots - DOTH (William Harrison)
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: turbo problem? |
Hi Herve
A few thoughts from a not yet flyin 914 owner:
Are both of your carbs opening full?
Are you getting 2 to 5PSI over airbox pressure?
How many hours you have on motor? Do you run a lot of 100LL? If you run 100LL do
you run Alcor or TCP? Did you run differential compression test, how was it?
What type of prop you have, is it CS or pilot adjustable?
You absolute certain wastegate is free and easy to move and is closing all the
way?
Do you have a intercooler? What is ambient temperature where you are having problem
and at what altitude?
What does trying one mag then the other show?
Did you try shutting off TCU and use throttle to adjust turbo for a quick test?
Ron P.
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: turbo problem? |
Hi Herve
A few thoughts from a not yet flyin 914 owner:
Are both of your carbs opening full?
Are you getting 2 to 5PSI over airbox pressure?
How many hours you have on motor? Do you run a lot of 100LL? If you run 100LL do
you run Alcor or TCP? Did you run differential compression test, how was it?
What type of prop you have, is it CS or pilot adjustable?
You absolute certain wastegate is free and easy to move and is closing all the
way?
Do you have a intercooler? What is ambient temperature where you are having problem
and at what altitude?
What does trying one mag then the other show?
Did you try shutting off TCU and use throttle to adjust turbo for a quick test?
Ron P.
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: turbo problem? |
You can check the turbo blade rotation by carefully inserting a 12 point socket
wrench into the turbo after spraying the bearing with Mouse Milk or similar lubricant.
I think the size wrench is 10mm but not positive. That solved my problem.
Gentle is the word and if all else fails you can send the turbo to Lockwood.
Ken Carpenter
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From: "rparigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
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> Hi Herve
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> A few thoughts from a not yet flyin 914 owner:
> Are both of your carbs opening full?
> Are you getting 2 to 5PSI over airbox pressure?
> How many hours you have on motor? Do you run a lot of 100LL? If you run 100LL
do
> you run Alcor or TCP? Did you run differential compression test, how was it?
> What type of prop you have, is it CS or pilot adjustable?
> You absolute certain wastegate is free and easy to move and is closing all the
> way?
> Do you have a intercooler? What is ambient temperature where you are having
> problem and at what altitude?
> What does trying one mag then the other show?
> Did you try shutting off TCU and use throttle to adjust turbo for a quick test?
> Ron P.
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> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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<DIV>You can check the turbo blade rotation by carefully inserting a 12 point socket
wrench into the turbo after spraying the bearing with Mouse Milk or similar
lubricant. I think the size wrench is 10mm but not positive. That
solved my problem. Gentle is the word and if all else fails you can
send the turbo to Lockwood.</DIV>
<DIV>Ken Carpenter</DIV>
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<rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> <BR><BR>> --> Europa-List message posted
by: "rparigoris" <RPARIGOR@SUFFOLK.LIB.NY.US><BR>> <BR>> Hi Herve <BR>>
<BR>> A few thoughts from a not yet flyin 914 owner: <BR>> Are both
of your carbs opening full? <BR>> Are you getting 2 to 5PSI over airbox
pressure? <BR>> How many hours you have on motor? Do you run a lot of 100LL?
If you run 100LL do <BR>> you run Alcor or TCP? Did you run differential
compression test, how was it? <BR>> What type of prop you have, is it CS or
pilot adjustable? <BR>> You absolute certain wastegate is free and easy to
move and is closing all the <BR>> way? <BR>> Do you have a intercooler?
What is ambient temperature where you are having <BR>> problem and at what
altitude? <BR>> What does trying one mag then th
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| Subject: | Re: Fwd: turbo problem? |
rparigoris a crit :
> Did you try shutting off TCU and use throttle to adjust turbo for a quick test?
>
Double check the little pressure lines, 3-way valve, pressure and temp
sensors, throttle potentiometer.
Did you make sure the potentiometer setting are (still) correct. Redo
the pot setting operation with your laptop.
While you'e at it, remember to check the TCU parameters during operation.
Detailed info in the 914 manuals.
After that, apart from obvious problems, you may start to suspect some
mechanical failure.
All the best,
--
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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| Subject: | UK pilots - DOTH |
Weather permitting. Why not? Tuesday is good too.
Bryan
From: nwcmc@tiscali.co.ukTo: europa-list@matronics.comSubject: Europa-List:
UK pilots - DOTHDate: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:46:05 +0000
I am considering another DOTH on Monday as the forecast is looking promisin
g. There are free vouchers for Panshangar, Booker and Popham. I am tending
to favour Panshangar. Anyone interested?
Nigel Charles
_________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Fwd: turbo problem? |
My impeller coked up once - had to dismantle it and clean it. By the way I
use 100% 100ll.
Also my waste gate stuck once for no apparent reason.
Will
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Herve
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 11:34
Subject: Europa-List: Fwd: turbo problem?
>Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:15:59 +0000
>To: europaForum-comcast.net
>From: Herve <hervechaussures@tiscali.co.uk>
>Subject: Fwd: turbo problem?
>
>
>>Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:38:43 +0000
>>To: EuropaForum-comcast.net
>>From: Herve <hervechaussures@tiscali.co.uk>
>>Subject: Fwd: turbo problem?
>>
>>
>>>Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:49:05 +0000
>>>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>>>From: Herve <hervechaussures@tiscali.co.uk>
>>>Subject: turbo problem?
>>>
>>>I have a Europa 914 turbo and am experiencing power loss on
>>>takeoff approx 300-400 rpm. It feels like turbo is not cutting in.
>>>I have renewed fuel filters, air filter and also plugs. to add to
>>>this I have checked correct operation of turbo wastegate.
>>>
>>>Has anyone had a similar problem to me? any suggestions would be welcome.
>>>
>>>Herve
19:11
19:11
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| Subject: | Fwd: turbo problem? |
Hi Herve,
Similar situation we had last year on the German amateur builder meeting in
Oerlinghausen with the G-GBXS (Andy Draper). When he gave full power for
take-off, suddenly the engine reduced rev. The reason was pitting material
(aluminium) inside of the carburettor housing. I'm not quite sure where this
was coming from: Mogas or Avgas. I guess Avgas. One of this stuff is
corroding the alu-housing of the carburettor. When Andy was giving full
throttle there was an increase of petrol flow and this was lifting up a
small piece of corroded aluminium, which closed the orifice. It was taking
some hours to solve this problem.
Best Regards,
Bruno Reith / uvtreith
Europa Aircraft Germany
-----Ursprngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von Herve
Gesendet: Freitag, 9. November 2007 17:34
An: europa-list@matronics.com
Betreff: Europa-List: Fwd: turbo problem?
>Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:15:59 +0000
>To: europaForum-comcast.net
>From: Herve <hervechaussures@tiscali.co.uk>
>Subject: Fwd: turbo problem?
>
>
>>Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:38:43 +0000
>>To: EuropaForum-comcast.net
>>From: Herve <hervechaussures@tiscali.co.uk>
>>Subject: Fwd: turbo problem?
>>
>>
>>>Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:49:05 +0000
>>>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>>>From: Herve <hervechaussures@tiscali.co.uk>
>>>Subject: turbo problem?
>>>
>>>I have a Europa 914 turbo and am experiencing power loss on
>>>takeoff approx 300-400 rpm. It feels like turbo is not cutting in.
>>>I have renewed fuel filters, air filter and also plugs. to add to
>>>this I have checked correct operation of turbo wastegate.
>>>
>>>Has anyone had a similar problem to me? any suggestions would be welcome.
>>>
>>>Herve
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| Subject: | Fwd: turbo problem? |
Discribing EXACTLY when the problem occurs may help find the problem. Eg.
start of ground roll after release of brakes,
6.4 seconds after going to full power....... etc etc.
knowing if a fault is predictable and repeatable is half the battle of
finding it. Given the wealth of knowledge that seems to be
behind this list i would bet someone has seen simmilar. I had a Tommahawk
that did a simmilar thing, passed run up tests
fine, but loss of power on take off, turned out to be a bent push rod for
one of the exhaust valves.
craig
7:29 PM
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| Subject: | Fwd: turbo problem? |
Discribing EXACTLY when the problem occurs may help find the problem. Eg.
start of ground roll after release of brakes,
6.4 seconds after going to full power....... etc etc.
knowing if a fault is predictable and repeatable is half the battle of
finding it. Given the wealth of knowledge that seems to be
behind this list i would bet someone has seen simmilar. I had a Tommahawk
that did a simmilar thing, passed run up tests
fine, but loss of power on take off, turned out to be a bent push rod for
one of the exhaust valves.
craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Herve
Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2007 2:34 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Fwd: turbo problem?
>Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 09:15:59 +0000
>To: europaForum-comcast.net
>From: Herve <hervechaussures@tiscali.co.uk>
>Subject: Fwd: turbo problem?
>
>
>>Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:38:43 +0000
>>To: EuropaForum-comcast.net
>>From: Herve <hervechaussures@tiscali.co.uk>
>>Subject: Fwd: turbo problem?
>>
>>
>>>Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2007 11:49:05 +0000
>>>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>>>From: Herve <hervechaussures@tiscali.co.uk>
>>>Subject: turbo problem?
>>>
>>>I have a Europa 914 turbo and am experiencing power loss on
>>>takeoff approx 300-400 rpm. It feels like turbo is not cutting in.
>>>I have renewed fuel filters, air filter and also plugs. to add to
>>>this I have checked correct operation of turbo wastegate.
>>>
>>>Has anyone had a similar problem to me? any suggestions would be welcome.
>>>
>>>Herve
7:29 PM
7:29 PM
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| Subject: | Re: UK pilots - DOTH |
Nigel
Its a 'No" on this occasion. Thanks anyway. Rats etc.
Willie
On 9 Nov 2007, at 18:46, nigel charles wrote:
> I am considering another DOTH on Monday as the forecast is looking
> promising. There are free vouchers for Panshangar, Booker and
> Popham. I am tending to favour Panshangar. Anyone interested?
>
> Nigel Charles
>
>
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