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1. 03:10 AM - redux (araldite 420) hardness (craig bastin)
2. 03:59 AM - test message (Mike Gamble)
3. 05:03 AM - Europa Construction Cradle (Mike Gamble)
4. 11:38 AM - Panshagar (David Watts)
5. 01:07 PM - Re: Panshagar (Robert C Harrison)
6. 01:46 PM - Re: Panshagar (Rick Morris)
7. 01:57 PM - baggage bay (Paul Stewart)
8. 02:01 PM - upholstery material (Paul Stewart)
9. 03:34 PM - Re: baggage bay (rlborger)
10. 04:03 PM - Re: baggage bay ()
11. 04:10 PM - Epoxy Question (Jeffrey J Paris)
12. 11:27 PM - Re: baggage bay (Michel AUVRAY)
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| Subject: | redux (araldite 420) hardness |
MessageMy 420 had crystalised some what and i had seen some people
mentioning heating it gently till the crystals
are gone which took about an hour at 50 degrees or so ( hot water bath) and
the crystals are gone ok
but i am just wondering, it sets in about 6 hours, but roughly how hard is
it normally after 24 hours
I just did the bolt captivity for the quick connects on cs14 and i can file
the 420 it seems about as hard
a a piece of alloy would be, it does however clog the file, and i understand
it takes about a week to fully cure
does this seem about right, ambient temp is about 22c currently
craig
9:50 PM
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| Subject: | Europa Construction Cradle |
I have for sale a cradle (designed after that of Chuck Popenoe) which
has proved great for supporting the fuselage during all stages of
construction whilst allowing wing/tailplane attachment and gear fitting
/operation.
Easily assembled and disassembled without the use of bolts or screws as
all joints are well made and tight. Castors can be added if desired.
Buy for less than the cost of the timber but please collect from
Camberley, Surrey, uk.
=A360 only. Please contact me off list if interested.
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Well where was everyone? Especially Nigel Charles, the instigator!!
4 of us made it to Panshangar today, on what was an absolutely beautiful
day for flying, (well untill the smoke from the East London warehouse
fire spread out).
Dave Watts
G-BXDY Classic Monowheel 1260 hours.
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Sorry Dave,
But almost dislocated my shoulder on Saturday so flying, in fact almost
everything even typing is an ordeal.
Yes, weather today has been fabulous and therefore exasperating too.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
Do not archive.
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Watts
Sent: 12 November 2007 19:37
Subject: Europa-List: Panshagar
Well where was everyone? Especially Nigel Charles, the instigator!!
4 of us made it to Panshangar today, on what was an absolutely beautiful
day for flying, (well untill the smoke from the East London warehouse
fire spread out).
Dave Watts
G-BXDY Classic Monowheel 1260 hours.
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Me to. Just too much work!
Rick morris.
G-riks
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From: David Watts <dg.watts@talktalk.net>
Sent: 12 November 2007 19:36
Subject: Europa-List: Panshagar
[The entire original message is not included]
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Can anyone direct me to photos of the baggage bay area (upholstered)
of a mono? The factory instructions for their upholstery kit are
incomplete.
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
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| Subject: | upholstery material |
Anyone know where I could get some of the unlined material and braid
use in the factory upholstery kit? Going to try the factory but guess
they buy these kits in.
Regards
paul
G-GIDY
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Paul,
Go to http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
I have an album for the interior kit. There is a pic of the baggage
bay in this album. It may not be a detailed as you wish, but it's
the best I have.
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
(90%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch
system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in,
Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar
in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done. Baggage bay in. Flaps & Main Gear
complete. Mod 72 complete. Instrument panel complete, except for
testing. Rotax 914 installed (for the 3rd time). Airmaster Prop
installed. Electrical complete, except for testing. Fuel system
complete except for testing. Working in - 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches &
35 Doors, 37 Interior & Finishing. Airmaster arrived 29 Sep 05.
Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. E04 interior kit has arrived and is
being installed.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Nov 12, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
> <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
>
> Can anyone direct me to photos of the baggage bay area
> (upholstered) of a mono? The factory instructions for their
> upholstery kit are incomplete.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
> G-GIDY
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Hi Paul
You can have a look at a PDF:
Go to http://www.europaowners.org/
Scroll down to Doculent Storage
Open "upholstery" from Ivor
Again not a perfect set of instructions, and some info is from older kit.
Ron P.
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Dear Europa Gurus',
I have a question for the builders list. I bought an "orphaned" Europa Clasic
kit and the former builder didn't get too far with it. I am currently building
the wings and I am using fresh MGS epoxy because I was concerned that the Ampreg
Epoxy that came with the original kit in the early to mid nineties was past
its usable shelf life.
With that in mind and just for the hell of it: Out of curiosity I mixed up a 100
grams of an already opened Ampreg epoxy container and took some scrap fiberglass
and did a lay-up and low and behold the old epoxy cured rock hard and seems
ok.
My question is could I use this old epoxy that came with the original buyers kit?
And if it can be used could it be used on structural parts? Or if it cannot be
used in a structural capacity could it be used on non-structural parts? (say
final coating and fairing)
I'm really curious to say the least. In a nutshell it would be great to use and
save quite a bit of money as opposed to harden it all so it could be thrown
away into a land fill. I guess I could epoxy a garage floor or use it on an
old boat of furniture project?
I curious to see what you all have to say; thank you for your time and consideration.
Regards,
Jeff Paris
Now Flying a Zenith Ch601XL Jab3300 185 total hours N196ZP
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Hi Bob,
I have seen your pictures and love your panel.
Do you have made yourself?
And have you any others pictures and panel dimensions?
If it is possible to send to me off
my email is "mau11@free.fr"
Thanks
Michel AUVRAY
Builder N?145 > 320 hours flight with my monowheel.
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]De la part de rlborger
Envoye : mardi 13 novembre 2007 00:30
A : europa-list@matronics.com
Objet : Re: Europa-List: baggage bay
Paul,
Go to http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
I have an album for the interior kit. There is a pic of the baggage bay in
this album. It may not be a detailed as you wish, but it's the best I have.
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
(90%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system
in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top
on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in,
Mod 70 done. Baggage bay in. Flaps & Main Gear complete. Mod 72 complete.
Instrument panel complete, except for testing. Rotax 914 installed (for the
3rd time). Airmaster Prop installed. Electrical complete, except for
testing. Fuel system complete except for testing. Working in - 32 Tail, 34
Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Interior & Finishing. Airmaster arrived 29 Sep
05. Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. E04 interior kit has arrived and is being
installed.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Nov 12, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
<europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Can anyone direct me to photos of the baggage bay area (upholstered) of
a mono? The factory instructions for their upholstery kit are incomplete.
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
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