---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/12/07: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:10 AM - redux (araldite 420) hardness (craig bastin) 2. 03:59 AM - test message (Mike Gamble) 3. 05:03 AM - Europa Construction Cradle (Mike Gamble) 4. 11:38 AM - Panshagar (David Watts) 5. 01:07 PM - Re: Panshagar (Robert C Harrison) 6. 01:46 PM - Re: Panshagar (Rick Morris) 7. 01:57 PM - baggage bay (Paul Stewart) 8. 02:01 PM - upholstery material (Paul Stewart) 9. 03:34 PM - Re: baggage bay (rlborger) 10. 04:03 PM - Re: baggage bay () 11. 04:10 PM - Epoxy Question (Jeffrey J Paris) 12. 11:27 PM - Re: baggage bay (Michel AUVRAY) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:10:13 AM PST US From: "craig bastin" Subject: Europa-List: redux (araldite 420) hardness MessageMy 420 had crystalised some what and i had seen some people mentioning heating it gently till the crystals are gone which took about an hour at 50 degrees or so ( hot water bath) and the crystals are gone ok but i am just wondering, it sets in about 6 hours, but roughly how hard is it normally after 24 hours I just did the bolt captivity for the quick connects on cs14 and i can file the 420 it seems about as hard a a piece of alloy would be, it does however clog the file, and i understand it takes about a week to fully cure does this seem about right, ambient temp is about 22c currently craig 9:50 PM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:59:29 AM PST US From: "Mike Gamble" Subject: Europa-List: test message test ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:22 AM PST US From: "Mike Gamble" Subject: Europa-List: Europa Construction Cradle I have for sale a cradle (designed after that of Chuck Popenoe) which has proved great for supporting the fuselage during all stages of construction whilst allowing wing/tailplane attachment and gear fitting /operation. Easily assembled and disassembled without the use of bolts or screws as all joints are well made and tight. Castors can be added if desired. Buy for less than the cost of the timber but please collect from Camberley, Surrey, uk. =A360 only. Please contact me off list if interested. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:38:06 AM PST US From: "David Watts" Subject: Europa-List: Panshagar Well where was everyone? Especially Nigel Charles, the instigator!! 4 of us made it to Panshangar today, on what was an absolutely beautiful day for flying, (well untill the smoke from the East London warehouse fire spread out). Dave Watts G-BXDY Classic Monowheel 1260 hours. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:07:53 PM PST US From: "Robert C Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Panshagar Sorry Dave, But almost dislocated my shoulder on Saturday so flying, in fact almost everything even typing is an ordeal. Yes, weather today has been fabulous and therefore exasperating too. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG Do not archive. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Watts Sent: 12 November 2007 19:37 Subject: Europa-List: Panshagar Well where was everyone? Especially Nigel Charles, the instigator!! 4 of us made it to Panshangar today, on what was an absolutely beautiful day for flying, (well untill the smoke from the East London warehouse fire spread out). Dave Watts G-BXDY Classic Monowheel 1260 hours. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:46:23 PM PST US From: Rick Morris Subject: RE: Europa-List: Panshagar Me to. Just too much work! Rick morris. G-riks -----Original Message-----=0A From: David Watts Sent: 12 November 2007 19:36 Subject: Europa-List: Panshagar [The entire original message is not included] ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:57:18 PM PST US From: Paul Stewart Subject: Europa-List: baggage bay Can anyone direct me to photos of the baggage bay area (upholstered) of a mono? The factory instructions for their upholstery kit are incomplete. Regards Paul G-GIDY ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:01:47 PM PST US From: Paul Stewart Subject: Europa-List: upholstery material Anyone know where I could get some of the unlined material and braid use in the factory upholstery kit? Going to try the factory but guess they buy these kits in. Regards paul G-GIDY ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:34:47 PM PST US From: rlborger Subject: Re: Europa-List: baggage bay Paul, Go to http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL I have an album for the interior kit. There is a pic of the baggage bay in this album. It may not be a detailed as you wish, but it's the best I have. Good building and great flying, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL (90%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done. Baggage bay in. Flaps & Main Gear complete. Mod 72 complete. Instrument panel complete, except for testing. Rotax 914 installed (for the 3rd time). Airmaster Prop installed. Electrical complete, except for testing. Fuel system complete except for testing. Working in - 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Interior & Finishing. Airmaster arrived 29 Sep 05. Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. E04 interior kit has arrived and is being installed. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Nov 12, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: > > > Can anyone direct me to photos of the baggage bay area > (upholstered) of a mono? The factory instructions for their > upholstery kit are incomplete. > > Regards > > Paul > G-GIDY ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:03:45 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: baggage bay From: Hi Paul You can have a look at a PDF: Go to http://www.europaowners.org/ Scroll down to Doculent Storage Open "upholstery" from Ivor Again not a perfect set of instructions, and some info is from older kit. Ron P. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:10:46 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Epoxy Question From: "Jeffrey J Paris" Dear Europa Gurus', I have a question for the builders list. I bought an "orphaned" Europa Clasic kit and the former builder didn't get too far with it. I am currently building the wings and I am using fresh MGS epoxy because I was concerned that the Ampreg Epoxy that came with the original kit in the early to mid nineties was past its usable shelf life. With that in mind and just for the hell of it: Out of curiosity I mixed up a 100 grams of an already opened Ampreg epoxy container and took some scrap fiberglass and did a lay-up and low and behold the old epoxy cured rock hard and seems ok. My question is could I use this old epoxy that came with the original buyers kit? And if it can be used could it be used on structural parts? Or if it cannot be used in a structural capacity could it be used on non-structural parts? (say final coating and fairing) I'm really curious to say the least. In a nutshell it would be great to use and save quite a bit of money as opposed to harden it all so it could be thrown away into a land fill. I guess I could epoxy a garage floor or use it on an old boat of furniture project? I curious to see what you all have to say; thank you for your time and consideration. Regards, Jeff Paris Now Flying a Zenith Ch601XL Jab3300 185 total hours N196ZP _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:27:27 PM PST US From: "Michel AUVRAY" Subject: RE: Europa-List: baggage bay Hi Bob, I have seen your pictures and love your panel. Do you have made yourself? And have you any others pictures and panel dimensions? If it is possible to send to me off my email is "mau11@free.fr" Thanks Michel AUVRAY Builder N?145 > 320 hours flight with my monowheel. -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]De la part de rlborger Envoye : mardi 13 novembre 2007 00:30 A : europa-list@matronics.com Objet : Re: Europa-List: baggage bay Paul, Go to http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL I have an album for the interior kit. There is a pic of the baggage bay in this album. It may not be a detailed as you wish, but it's the best I have. Good building and great flying, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL (90%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done. Baggage bay in. Flaps & Main Gear complete. Mod 72 complete. Instrument panel complete, except for testing. Rotax 914 installed (for the 3rd time). Airmaster Prop installed. Electrical complete, except for testing. Fuel system complete except for testing. Working in - 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Interior & Finishing. Airmaster arrived 29 Sep 05. Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. E04 interior kit has arrived and is being installed. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Nov 12, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: Can anyone direct me to photos of the baggage bay area (upholstered) of a mono? The factory instructions for their upholstery kit are incomplete. 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