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0. 12:16 AM - Value of the List... (Matt Dralle)
1. 09:42 AM - Trip to Australia 2009 (David Joyce)
2. 09:45 AM - Re: Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday? (Robert C Harrison)
3. 10:36 AM - Re: Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday? (nigel charles)
4. 10:43 AM - tailwheel towbar (Raimo Toivio)
5. 11:14 AM - Stall warning during high altitude tests (Raimo Toivio)
6. 11:19 AM - Re: tailwheel towbar (Robert Borger)
7. 11:58 AM - Re: Stall warning during high altitude tests (Graham Singleton)
8. 01:10 PM - Re: Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday? (nigel charles)
9. 01:18 PM - Re: Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday? (bryan allsop)
10. 01:24 PM - Re: Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday? (R Holder)
11. 02:41 PM - Re: Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday? (bryan allsop)
12. 07:14 PM - Throttle Cables (Troy Maynor)
13. 11:20 PM - Re: Throttle Cables (Michel AUVRAY)
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| Subject: | Value of the List... |
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| Subject: | Trip to Australia 2009 |
18 months ago Tim Weert floated the idea of a group of Europas flying from
London to Melbourne on the 75th Anniversary of the Great London to Melbourne
(McRobertson) Air Race of 1934, won by one of 3 specially designed (& built
in 9 months!) twin engined racing aircraft - the De Havilland Comet. Twenty
aircraft took part and 11 finished. There were 5 compulsory stops - Baghdad,
Allahabad, Singapore,Darwin and Charleville, which makes something close to
a straight line on a conventional map of the world.
The key planning decisions so far are:
(1) That each plane would have only one pilot, the other seat being taken up
by a specially constructed long range fuel tank containing around 110 litres
to give sufficient range to be able to avoid places where the natives are
not friendly!
(2) It will be a one way trip with the planes being shipped back in
containers from Oz
(3) We should go in March to get the best overall weather along the route
(4) Although keen to follow the original route as nearly as possible,
Baghdad will be avoided!
(5) We are looking at somewhere between 14 and 17 days of actual flying,
depending a bit whether the whole fleet is 914 equipped or not.
Tim has since had to back out because of work and family pressures,
and at the moment it looks as though two planes only are likely to go. We
would very much welcome any additional person looking for a real challenge.
There is sufficient necessary planning and preparation that I estimate
participation needs a decision before the end of the year. If possibly
interested please contact me off list.
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
Tel 01454 260542
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| Subject: | Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday? |
Hi! Nigel
There=92s no =94freebies=94 but a good Caf=E9 facility why not try
Wickenby
(EGNW) in lieu of absent suggestions.?
Not sure I can get out of my rt.hd. seat yet with my damaged shoulder,
and I have some cooling air flow work to undertake prior to another
flight. I=92m wanting to call a =93doth=94 for Rochester on a Sunday to
meet
with Ivor but the wx looks poor for this weekend.
I=92m planning to be at Wickenby tomorrow anyway.
Regards
Bob h G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nigel
charles
Sent: 14 November 2007 19:14
Subject: Europa-List: Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday?
The weather forecast is looking quite good for Friday. Is anyone
interested in another DOTH whilst the weather is still good? This time I
will check to confirm availability of a cafe/restaurant at the chosen
airfield. There is quite a selection of possible destinations with free
landings in both Flyer and Pilot. Does anyone have any preferences as to
where we go?
Nigel Charles
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| Subject: | Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday? |
Is anyone else interested in a DOTH tomorrow apart from Bryan and
myself? Assuming there is no one who has already been to Panshanger
recently I am considering trying there again but will confirm the cafe
is open this time before setting off. There is a risk of fog tomorrow
morning which may be a problem if it is slow to clear. I will be
contactable either on my home number (01380 860620) or my mobile (0776
4579 860) during the morning. It is best to try my home number first as
there is no mobile signal within my house.
If tomorrow proves to be a problem with weather I will look at Saturday
as a possibility. I also have Wednesday, Thursday and Friday off next
week should the weather be good then.
Regards
Nigel Charles
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bryan
allsop
Sent: 14 November 2007 20:23
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday?
Hi Nigel,
Weather permitting! Not too far south, and I will endevour to make it.
I am not fussed about it being a freebie.
Cheers.
Bryan
PS. I understand that some are unaware that "DOTH" means "at the drop of
a hat", i.e., " rendezvous with little warning".
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From: nwcmc@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: Europa-List: Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday?
The weather forecast is looking quite good for Friday. Is anyone
interested in another DOTH whilst the weather is still good? This time I
will check to confirm availability of a cafe/restaurant at the chosen
airfield. There is quite a selection of possible destinations with free
landings in both Flyer and Pilot. Does anyone have any preferences as to
where we go?
Nigel Charles
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| Subject: | tailwheel towbar |
MessageA tip for mw-operators!
I purchased a towbar unit
which connects perfectly
to the monowheeler=B4s
tailwheel. It is lightweight,
rigid, folding and usable
w push & pull mode. It is
from Bogart Aviation USA.
Terveisin, Raimo
Raimo M W Toivio
OH-XRT Europa XS Mono #417, The Experimental of The Year 2007
OH-CVK C172 Skyhawk, totally restored 2006-2007
OH-BLL Beechcraft C45, w radial engines (grounded)
37500 Lempaala
Finland
tel + 358 3 3753 777
fax + 358 3 3753 100
gsm + 358 40 590 1450
raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
www.rwm.fi
----- Original Message -----
From: Robt.C.Harrison
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Nose wheel towbar and attachment
If He has I bet his won't fall off !
Regards
Bob H G-PTAG
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kingsley
Hurst
Sent: 26 October 2007 07:51
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Nose wheel towbar and attachment
What Duncan ? You haven't committed that blasphemous act and fitted a
nose wheel have you ?
Best regards
Kingsley
do not archive
Geof,
Photo please!
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| Subject: | Stall warning during high altitude tests |
All
I visited couple of days ago QNH altitude 16200 feet
(it was flight level 150). Even the last 1000 feet took
only 4 minutes to climb. My engine is a free aspirated
Rotax 912S. My purpose was to find a max usable
ceiling service. Europa would have gone happily higher
but that altitude was enough for me personally. Temp
was around 15 degrees below freezing but climate in
the cocpit was still comfortable.
When I started to descend, I got immeadiately a stall
warning. I have an Europa factory stall warning kit with
audio-visual warnings. System was activated during
whole descending and even in the hangar one hour
after landing. Next day it was OK again.
What was that? Is there any other explanation than
ice formation in the pipe from the wing leading edge
to the pressure probe?
I did not feel good when listening half an hour a buzzer
and watching big blue high bright led which tried to tell
me I am stalling...I was not brave enough to switch that
uncorrect warning off.
Regards, Raimo
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| Subject: | Re: tailwheel towbar |
Europaphiles,
The URL for Bogert Aviation is
http://www.bogert-av.com/
No relationship to me.
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
On Thursday, November 15, 2007, at 01:07PM, "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
wrote:
>MessageA tip for mw-operators!
>
>I purchased a towbar unit
>which connects perfectly
>to the monowheelers
>tailwheel. It is lightweight,
>rigid, folding and usable
>w push & pull mode. It is
>from Bogart Aviation USA.
>
>Terveisin, Raimo
>Raimo M W Toivio
>
>OH-XRT Europa XS Mono #417, The Experimental of The Year 2007
>OH-CVK C172 Skyhawk, totally restored 2006-2007
>OH-BLL Beechcraft C45, w radial engines (grounded)
>
>37500 Lempaala
>Finland
>tel + 358 3 3753 777
>fax + 358 3 3753 100
>gsm + 358 40 590 1450
>
>raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
>www.rwm.fi
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Robt.C.Harrison
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 12:30 PM
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Nose wheel towbar and attachment
>
>
> If He has I bet his won't fall off !
>
> Regards
>
> Bob H G-PTAG
>
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kingsley Hurst
> Sent: 26 October 2007 07:51
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Nose wheel towbar and attachment
>
>
>
> What Duncan ? You haven't committed that blasphemous act and fitted a nose
wheel have you ?
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Kingsley
>
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
> Geof,
>
> Photo please!
>
>
>
>
>
> - The Europa-List Email Forum - --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - --> http://forums.matronics.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stall warning during high altitude tests |
Raimo
it probably was ice. When the airplane is cold soaked at hi altitude as
soon as you descend into warmer air the water vapour in the air will
condense on the airframe and of course freeze.
That is my guess. It used to happen to gliders high in wave over
Scotland. I remember looking out at the wings and seeing frost forming
and outlining the spar and ribs.
Graham
Raimo Toivio wrote:
>
> All
>
> I visited couple of days ago QNH altitude 16200 feet
> (it was flight level 150). Even the last 1000 feet took
> only 4 minutes to climb. My engine is a free aspirated
> Rotax 912S. My purpose was to find a max usable
> ceiling service. Europa would have gone happily higher
> but that altitude was enough for me personally. Temp
> was around 15 degrees below freezing but climate in
> the cocpit was still comfortable.
>
> When I started to descend, I got immeadiately a stall
> warning. I have an Europa factory stall warning kit with
> audio-visual warnings. System was activated during
> whole descending and even in the hangar one hour
> after landing. Next day it was OK again.
>
> What was that? Is there any other explanation than
> ice formation in the pipe from the wing leading edge
> to the pressure probe?
>
> I did not feel good when listening half an hour a buzzer
> and watching big blue high bright led which tried to tell
> me I am stalling...I was not brave enough to switch that
> uncorrect warning off.
>
> Regards, Raimo
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Graham Singleton
Tel: +441629820187
Mob: +447739582005
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| Subject: | Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday? |
Hi Bob
It is getting quite foggy here this evening. The forecast for Lyneham
tomorrow indicates that the fog might not clear until late morning
(assuming it does clear at all). With the relatively short daylight
window after the fog clears we might be OK for a trip up to Panshanger
but up to you may be a bit ambitious. Maybe another time.
Regards
Nigel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert C
Harrison
Sent: 15 November 2007 17:45
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday?
Hi! Nigel
There=92s no =94freebies=94 but a good Caf=E9 facility why not try
Wickenby
(EGNW) in lieu of absent suggestions.?
Not sure I can get out of my rt.hd. seat yet with my damaged shoulder,
and I have some cooling air flow work to undertake prior to another
flight. I=92m wanting to call a =93doth=94 for Rochester on a Sunday to
meet
with Ivor but the wx looks poor for this weekend.
I=92m planning to be at Wickenby tomorrow anyway.
Regards
Bob h G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nigel
charles
Sent: 14 November 2007 19:14
Subject: Europa-List: Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday?
The weather forecast is looking quite good for Friday. Is anyone
interested in another DOTH whilst the weather is still good? This time I
will check to confirm availability of a cafe/restaurant at the chosen
airfield. There is quite a selection of possible destinations with free
landings in both Flyer and Pilot. Does anyone have any preferences as to
where we go?
Nigel Charles
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| Subject: | Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday? |
Looking at the forecasts, tomorrow will be the last chance for several days
.
Regards
Bryan
From: nwcmc@tiscali.co.ukTo: europa-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Europa-L
ist: Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday?Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:30:45 +0000
Is anyone else interested in a DOTH tomorrow apart from Bryan and myself? A
ssuming there is no one who has already been to Panshanger recently I am co
nsidering trying there again but will confirm the cafe is open this time be
fore setting off. There is a risk of fog tomorrow morning which may be a pr
oblem if it is slow to clear. I will be contactable either on my home numbe
r (01380 860620) or my mobile (0776 4579 860) during the morning. It is bes
t to try my home number first as there is no mobile signal within my house.
If tomorrow proves to be a problem with weather I will look at Saturday as
a possibility. I also have Wednesday, Thursday and Friday off next week sho
uld the weather be good then.
Regards
Nigel Charles
-----Original Message-----From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mai
lto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bryan allsopSent:
14 November 2007 20:23To: europa-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Europa-List
: Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday?Hi Nigel, Weather permitting! Not too far so
uth, and I will endevour to make it. I am not fussed about it being a freeb
ie. Cheers. Bryan PS. I understand that some are unaware that "DOTH" means
"at the drop of a hat", i.e., " rendezvous with little warning".
From: nwcmc@tiscali.co.ukTo: europa-list@matronics.comSubject: Europa-List:
Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday?Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:13:52 +0000
The weather forecast is looking quite good for Friday. Is anyone interested
in another DOTH whilst the weather is still good? This time I will check t
o confirm availability of a cafe/restaurant at the chosen airfield. There i
s quite a selection of possible destinations with free landings in both Fly
er and Pilot. Does anyone have any preferences as to where we go?
Nigel Charles
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| Subject: | Re: Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday? |
nigel charles wrote:
> Is anyone else interested in a DOTH tomorrow apart from
> Bryan and myself? Assuming there is no one who has
> already been to Panshanger recently I am considering
> trying there again but will confirm the cafe is open
> this time before setting off. There is a risk of fog
> tomorrow morning which may be a problem if it is slow
> to clear. I will be contactable either on my home
> number (01380 860620) or my mobile (0776 4579 860)
> during the morning. It is best to try my home number
> first as there is no mobile signal within my house.
>
> If tomorrow proves to be a problem with weather I will
> look at Saturday as a possibility. I also have
> Wednesday, Thursday and Friday off next week should the
> weather be good then.
Hi Nigel
What about a DOTH at Wycombe Air Park ? Voucher in Flyer.
Restaurant is good.
If you decide on Panshanger let me know and I will drive
over - It will take longer to open up the hanger and pull
out G-OWWW than it will be to drive there ! I didn't make
Monday as i was otherwise engaged.
Richard
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Bell House, Bell Lane, 01279 842804 (fax)
Widford, Ware, Herts, 07860 367423 (mobile)
SG12 8SH email : richard.holder@avnet.co.uk
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| Subject: | Uk pilots only - DOTH Friday? |
Richard says,
"What about a DOTH at Wycombe Air Park ? Voucher in Flyer."
I do not take the Flyer now, but I am happy with it.
Let's see what tomorrow brings.
Bryan
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Hi All,
I know this has been asked before but I never really got the details that I
need. I am grateful for the replies when we last discussed it however. I
don't want to start a big debate and beat the dead horse again but I need
relief. The questions revolve around changing the stranded or braided inner
thottle cables to solid ones to prevent possible kinking. Can the folks that
have already done this tell me the following? I am mostly interested in the
diameter of the solid wire that others have used successfully. Wicks has
.055" that should work with the factory outter housings,which is the
preferred in my opinion. Or, they also have .075" wire with thier 3/32" ID
housing. Which size is the best for routing without binding?
Troy Maynor
N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
Left to finish:
Paint,(some) interior,engine install, (some) wiring.
Weaverville, NC USA
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Hi TROY,
I replace the cables by stainless steel piano wire dia. 1.5 mm (about 0.059
inch) and use a graphite grease into the sleeve, in France winter is cold
currently -5 to -10Celcius possible, this solution is perfect for me.
-----Message d'origine-----
De : owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]De la part de Troy Maynor
Envoy : vendredi 16 novembre 2007 04:08
: europa-list@matronics.com
Objet : Europa-List: Throttle Cables
Hi All,
I know this has been asked before but I never really got the details that I
need. I am grateful for the replies when we last discussed it however. I
don't want to start a big debate and beat the dead horse again but I need
relief. The questions revolve around changing the stranded or braided inner
thottle cables to solid ones to prevent possible kinking. Can the folks that
have already done this tell me the following? I am mostly interested in the
diameter of the solid wire that others have used successfully. Wicks has
.055" that should work with the factory outter housings,which is the
preferred in my opinion. Or, they also have .075" wire with thier 3/32" ID
housing. Which size is the best for routing without binding?
Troy Maynor
N120EU Europa Monowheel Classic
Left to finish:
Paint,(some) interior,engine install, (some) wiring.
Weaverville, NC USA
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