---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/17/07: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:30 AM - Re: Trip to Australia 2009 (David Joyce) 2. 04:28 AM - Re: Trip to Australia 2009 (craig bastin) 3. 05:21 AM - Re: Digital Readout Engine Gauges (europa flugzeug fabrik) 4. 09:21 AM - Engine not selected yet? (Fred Klein) 5. 09:53 AM - Re: Throttle Cables (Gilles Thesee) 6. 11:51 AM - Smooth Prop (Mark Burton) 7. 02:45 PM - Re: Smooth Prop (Graham Singleton) 8. 05:58 PM - Re: Re: Digital Readout Engine Gauges (Martin Tuck) 9. 08:58 PM - Re: Re: Digital Readout Engine Gauges (Michael Grass) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:09 AM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trip to Australia 2009 Sue & Bill, Put like that it's very tempting! Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill and Sue" Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trip to Australia 2009 > > Might I suggest that you go all the way and make the hop across the > Tasman to New Zealand to meet up with all the NZ Europa's. > > Sue & Bill > > > craig bastin wrote: > > > > from one on the australian side of the pond, might i suggest you make your > > final stop Hervey Bay, Redcliff, jacobs well or > > Coolangatta all of which would be convenient ports to ship from and central > > enough to allow the aussie europa's to fly in > > on the same day, plus the coastal flying is sensational around those areas. > > > > craig > > 8:57 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 2664 (20071116) Information __________ > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:28:06 AM PST US From: "craig bastin" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trip to Australia 2009 you could make it a tag along flight, with those wanting to do certain legs going in for as long as they want craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David Joyce Sent: Saturday, 17 November 2007 9:27 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trip to Australia 2009 Sue & Bill, Put like that it's very tempting! Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill and Sue" Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trip to Australia 2009 > > Might I suggest that you go all the way and make the hop across the > Tasman to New Zealand to meet up with all the NZ Europa's. > > Sue & Bill > > > craig bastin wrote: > > > > from one on the australian side of the pond, might i suggest you make your > > final stop Hervey Bay, Redcliff, jacobs well or > > Coolangatta all of which would be convenient ports to ship from and central > > enough to allow the aussie europa's to fly in > > on the same day, plus the coastal flying is sensational around those areas. > > > > craig > > 8:57 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 2664 (20071116) Information __________ > > > > > > > > > > > > 9:52 AM 9:52 AM ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:26 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Digital Readout Engine Gauges From: "europa flugzeug fabrik" Any engine instrumentation we buy has to be compatible with the Rotax temp and pressure senders. Fred F Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146604#146604 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:32 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Engine not selected yet? From: Fred Klein For any of you who have yet to deal with FWF issues, recent announcements concerning the Gemini 100/125 turbo diesel may be of interest. Two sources of information are: www.amtonline.com/publication/article.jsp?id=4434&pubId=1 http://dieselair.com/archives/2007_07_01_archive.html No response as yet to an enquiry to John at E04 as to whether the company might be considering supporting it for the Europa. Fred A194 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:53:10 AM PST US From: Gilles Thesee Subject: Re: Europa-List: Throttle Cables Michel AUVRAY a crit : > I replace the cables by stainless steel piano wire dia. 1.5 mm (about 0.059 > inch) Michel, Troy and all We are also using a 1.5 mm dia piano wire, along with many Rotax fellow fliers. Best regards, -- Gilles http://contrails.free.fr > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:51:59 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Smooth Prop From: "Mark Burton" Howdy folks, Not much happening on the list these days so here's something to ponder. Today, I went to the airfield to dynamically balance an Arplast PV50 prop fitted to a Rotax 912S on a Kitfox. Without adding any weights, it measured 0.02 IPS vibration which is an extremely good result - I thought for a 912S, absolutely outstanding. The carbs had recently been balanced by Adrian at Shobdon and they must be spot on. I was so impressed, I blagged a ride in the Kitfox to see what it was like in the air and, no kidding, if you put your hand on the instrument panel or structure, you could not feel any vibration at all - it was uncanny. The point of this story is that it is possible to achieve no perceptable prop vibration on a 912S. So, if you can feel vibration, something isn't right. Cheers, Mark Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146675#146675 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:54 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: Smooth Prop Mark That's encouraging news. imho the Arplast prop blades are very good, Not too stiff so they don't rattle like Warps do and plenty of area near the root to help cooling at low speeds. I have always wondered about residual vibration, you can never tell if it is due to some criterion that cannot be balanced out. Good to have cinfirmation that it can! Graham Mark Burton wrote: > > Howdy folks, > > Not much happening on the list these days so here's something to ponder. > > Today, I went to the airfield to dynamically balance an Arplast PV50 prop fitted to a Rotax 912S on a Kitfox. > > Without adding any weights, it measured 0.02 IPS vibration which is an extremely good result - I thought for a 912S, absolutely outstanding. The carbs had recently been balanced by Adrian at Shobdon and they must be spot on. > > I was so impressed, I blagged a ride in the Kitfox to see what it was like in the air and, no kidding, if you put your hand on the instrument panel or structure, you could not feel any vibration at all - it was uncanny. > > The point of this story is that it is possible to achieve no perceptable prop vibration on a 912S. So, if you can feel vibration, something isn't right. > > Cheers, > > Mark > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=146675#146675 > > > > > > > > > > > -- Graham Singleton Tel: +441629820187 Mob: +447739582005 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:58:50 PM PST US From: Martin Tuck Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Digital Readout Engine Gauges From what I can see they do require their own senders but they appear to be identical in size/thread, etc.as the Rotax ones so switching them doesn't appear to pose a problem. Martin europa flugzeug fabrik wrote: > > Any engine instrumentation we buy has to be compatible with the Rotax temp and pressure senders. > > Fred F > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:09 PM PST US From: "Michael Grass" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Digital Readout Engine Gauges Martin, Be aware that only numerical displays impose additional workload to the pilot. You would actually have to read the number and the brain has to process the numbers and compare them mentally. In your case, I would look for some instruments with a combined analog and digital representation in one instrument. Example is at http://www.sportflyingshop.com/Instr/Stratomaster/SmartSingles/smartsingles.html . The nice thing about digital once is that many have a monitoring feature and will ring an alarm when certain programmed levels are exceeded. You find also nicer looking once in the automotive and aviation industry if you look further. Advantage of analog representation is that you just need to have a short look at the instrument to see that all data are in the right area. Much quicker and less workload to the brain. This is exactly the reason why the digital representation in a car never took of. Regards Michael Grass A266 Trigear Detroit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Tuck" Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2007 8:57 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Digital Readout Engine Gauges > > From what I can see they do require their own senders but they appear to > be identical in size/thread, etc.as the Rotax ones so switching them > doesn't appear to pose a problem. > > Martin > > europa flugzeug fabrik wrote: >> >> >> Any engine instrumentation we buy has to be compatible with the Rotax >> temp and pressure senders. >> >> Fred F >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.