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0. 12:27 AM - Comments (Matt Dralle)
1. 01:47 AM - Re: covered trailers (Paul Stewart)
2. 05:31 AM - Re: Re: Digital Readout Engine Gauges (craig bastin)
3. 09:08 AM - LG mounting frame (Fred Klein)
4. 10:10 AM - Re: LG mounting frame (rlborger)
5. 11:15 AM - Re: LG mounting frame (Fred Klein)
6. 01:02 PM - Re: LG mounting frame (rlborger)
7. 01:13 PM - Re: LG mounting frame (Graham Singleton)
8. 02:02 PM - Re: covered trailers (steve v)
9. 03:09 PM - wing TE trimming (Rowland & Wilma Carson)
10. 03:24 PM - Re: LG mounting frame (Fred Klein)
11. 04:39 PM - Re: LG mounting frame (Graham Singleton)
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Subject: | Re: covered trailers |
Steve
Is there a company name or web site missing from your original
posting below?
Paul
On 22 Nov 2007, at 20:36, steve v wrote:
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> Hi Paul, These people manufacture an enclosed Europa trailor, they
> will email you pictures and prices, just make sure you are not
> holding a hot cup of tea when you read the prices,
>
> steve #573 G-CEBV
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> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Subject: | Re: Digital Readout Engine Gauges |
C.L.E.A.R.O.F.F
Compass and DI aligned, flying correct heading
Location. Fix your position
Engine, T's & P's where they should be
Altitude. Correct for plan/heading, and current airspace clearance.
Radio, Correct frequency, still working.
Oxygen (pressurisation)
Fuel, contents sufficient for remaining flight time, correct tank (if
required)
Flaps both wing and cowl correct
the prelanding one ammuses most new students
BUMFFISH
Brakes, working
Undercarriage, (down and locked/Fixed)
Mixture full rich
Fuel, pump on, contents sufficent
Flaps set, both wing and cowl
Instruments (T's and P's correct)
Security, loose objects secure
Hatches and harnesses set for landing.
Short Final check
PLUFF
Pitch (full Fine)
Landing clearance (granted / runway clear)
Undercarriage, (down and locked/Fixed)
Fuel, full rich, pump on, contents sufficent
Flaps set, both wing and cowl
Line up check
TWAD
Transponder, switch to alt, squark correct.
windsock. Crosswind estimate
Aimpoint, for after takeoff
DI and compass agree with runway heading.
I am sure there are other ones that work just as well, are there any others
people want to share
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rowland & Wilma
Carson
Sent: Monday, 19 November 2007 10:37 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Digital Readout Engine Gauges
At 18/11/07 21:25 +1000 craig bastin wrote:
>most of the schools in
>Australia
>teach students to a C.L.E.A.R.O.F.F check every 15 minutes
Craig - that's new acronym on me! I can make a guess at some of it,
but would like to know the "authorised verion", please!
regards
Rowland
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Subject: | LG mounting frame |
Gentle Monowheelies,
In the midst of Chapter 21 M, last evening I got myself in a bit of a
jamb by the ever so slightest deviation from the build manual w/ regard
to the mounting of the LG01A bushes in the large diameter tube of the
LG mounting frame. Having become accustomed to press fitting and
loctiting the smaller bushes, I didn't hesitate to loctite the first of
the two LG01A bushes by gently tapping it in place with a rubber mallet
after a minimal scouring of the tube and the requisite cleaning and
degreasing...but lo and behold, I was surprised to find that the shaft
LG09 no longer rotates freely within the bushing; rather, the shaft has
but a very tight interference fit within the bushing.
So.....what to do?
I see my options to be (1) to hone the bushing carefully til the shaft
freely rotates, or (2) heat up the frame and bush to break the loctite
bond, remove the bush, and scour/sand the inner circumference of the
tube until the bush slides in neatly and then re-loctite.
Have any of you had to deal with this problem?... if so, how did you
solve it?
Any comments would be much appreciated.
Fred
A194
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Subject: | Re: LG mounting frame |
Fred,
Went back to read Chapter 21M to refresh myself on the operation.
=46rom my understanding of your installation, you tapped the LG01A
bushings into place without the LG09 to maintain alignment. It's a
tough call, but I'd guess you'd be best to remove the two LG01A
bushings, clean it all up and re-bond as per instructions with the
LG09 in place. That best ensures that the bushings are aligned
properly with the shaft.
Just my 2=A2 and probably not worth all that.
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
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Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar
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complete. Mod 72 complete. Instrument panel complete, except for
testing. Rotax 914 installed (for the 3rd time). Airmaster Prop
installed. Electrical complete, except for testing. Fuel system
complete except for testing. Working in - 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches &
35 Doors, 37 Interior & Finishing. Airmaster arrived 29 Sep 05.
Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. E04 interior kit has arrived and is
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On Nov 24, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Fred Klein wrote:
>
> Gentle Monowheelies,
>
>
> In the midst of Chapter 21 M, last evening I got myself in a bit of
> a jamb by the ever so slightest deviation from the build manual w/
> regard to the mounting of the LG01A bushes in the large diameter
> tube of the LG mounting frame. Having become accustomed to press
> fitting and loctiting the smaller bushes, I didn't hesitate to
> loctite the first of the two LG01A bushes by gently tapping it in
> place with a rubber mallet after a minimal scouring of the tube and
> the requisite cleaning and degreasing...but lo and behold, I was
> surprised to find that the shaft LG09 no longer rotates freely
> within the bushing; rather, the shaft has but a very tight
> interference fit within the bushing.
>
> So.....what to do?
>
> I see my options to be (1) to hone the bushing carefully til the
> shaft freely rotates, or (2) heat up the frame and bush to break
> the loctite bond, remove the bush, and scour/sand the inner
> circumference of the tube until the bush slides in neatly and then
> re-loctite.
>
> Have any of you had to deal with this problem?... if so, how did
> you solve it?
>
> Any comments would be much appreciated.
>
> Fred
> A194
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Subject: | Re: LG mounting frame |
On Saturday, Nov 24, 2007, at 10:08 US/Pacific, rlborger wrote:
> -From my understanding of your installation, you tapped the LG01A
> bushings into place without the LG09 to maintain alignment. -It's a
> tough call, but I'd guess you'd be best to remove the two LG01A
> bushings, clean it all up and re-bond as per instructions with the
> LG09 in place. -That best ensures that the bushings are aligned
> properly with the shaft.
Bob,
Thanks for your comment and for taking the time to go back thru the
manual. Your understanding is correct except that I have only loctited
one of the LG01A bushes. I don't believe I have an alignment
problem...I think my problem results from the bush being compressed
just enough to make for an interference fit between bushing and shaft
rather than for the shaft to freely rotate.
Looking at the Loctite specs, I find that the bond dissolves at 250
degrees C (wow...that's 482 degrees F.!). I guess I can put a propane
torch into the LG mounting frame and heat the puppy up to free the
bushing...but am wondering what that will do to the powder
coat...(?)...and I don't want to exacerbate the situation.
While still pondering what to do, I'm certainly open to additional
counsel from any source!
Thanks,
Fred
A194
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Subject: | Re: LG mounting frame |
Fred,
OK, I understand the issue. I really don't have a good
recommendation. Only can say that you need the LG09 to fit snugly in
the LG01A bushing with no slop allowed. The over-center is tenuous
enough as it is. Any slop at all certainly would aggravate any
problems there.
Perhaps someone out there with more machine shop experience can come
up with a better solution or a means to lap the bushing to size while
maintaining proper alignment.
Good luck,
Bob
On Nov 24, 2007, at 1:13 PM, Fred Klein wrote:
>
> On Saturday, Nov 24, 2007, at 10:08 US/Pacific, rlborger wrote:
>> From my understanding of your installation, you tapped the LG01A
>> bushings into place without the LG09 to maintain alignment. It's
>> a tough call, but I'd guess you'd be best to remove the two LG01A
>> bushings, clean it all up and re-bond as per instructions with the
>> LG09 in place. That best ensures that the bushings are aligned
>> properly with the shaft.
>
> Bob,
>
> Thanks for your comment and for taking the time to go back thru the
> manual. Your understanding is correct except that I have only
> loctited one of the LG01A bushes. I don't believe I have an
> alignment problem...I think my problem results from the bush being
> compressed just enough to make for an interference fit between
> bushing and shaft rather than for the shaft to freely rotate.
>
> Looking at the Loctite specs, I find that the bond dissolves at 250
> degrees C (wow...that's 482 degrees F.!). I guess I can put a
> propane torch into the LG mounting frame and heat the puppy up to
> free the bushing...but am wondering what that will do to the powder
> coat...(?)...and I don't want to exacerbate the situation.
>
> While still pondering what to do, I'm certainly open to additional
> counsel from any source!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred
> A194
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Subject: | Re: LG mounting frame |
Fred
if you can find a lump of round bar the right size to slip into the
bush, heat that to around 300C, wait a couple of minutes, then tap the
bush out with another lump of bar (same OD as the bush)
That should do it without overheating the powder coating.
The expansion of the bush will tighten it until the LG heats up a bit
too then it should loosen.
Get a second opinion about this!
When you get it out you need to find out why the bust went tight!?
Can't have been the loctite. The proper thing to do would be to ream the
bush with a long hand reamer. Can you rent an expanding reamer long
enough? They may exist.
Graham
Fred Klein wrote:
>
>
> On Saturday, Nov 24, 2007, at 10:08 US/Pacific, rlborger wrote:
>
> From my understanding of your installation, you tapped the LG01A
> bushings into place without the LG09 to maintain alignment. It's a
> tough call, but I'd guess you'd be best to remove the two LG01A
> bushings, clean it all up and re-bond as per instructions with the
> LG09 in place. That best ensures that the bushings are aligned
> properly with the shaft.
>
>
> Bob,
>
> Thanks for your comment and for taking the time to go back thru the
> manual. Your understanding is correct except that I have only loctited
> one of the LG01A bushes. I don't believe I have an alignment problem...I
> think my problem results from the bush being compressed just enough to
> make for an interference fit between bushing and shaft rather than for
> the shaft to freely rotate.
>
> Looking at the Loctite specs, I find that the bond dissolves at 250
> degrees C (wow...that's 482 degrees F.!). I guess I can put a propane
> torch into the LG mounting frame and heat the puppy up to free the
> bushing...but am wondering what that will do to the powder
> coat...(?)...and I don't want to exacerbate the situation.
>
> While still pondering what to do, I'm certainly open to additional
> counsel from any source!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred
> A194
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Subject: | Re: covered trailers |
Hi Paul, Appologies, i ammended my reply but i dont think
it appeared on the matronics list, here is the missing link,
http://www.kompak.co.uk/, they will email you pictures and prices,
just make sure you are not holding a hot cup of tea when you read the prices,
steve #573 G-CEBV
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Subject: | wing TE trimming |
I've just glued the lid on my first wing. I notice that the manual
mentions that the TE will get trimmed to fit later - but I haven't
been able to find where that happens. Can anyone point me to the
right place in the manual, please?
regards
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: LG mounting frame |
Thanks Graham and Bob for your thoughts. I'm quite mindful of the need
for a close tolerance fit of the shaft within the bushings, hence my
query and head-scratching. I believe the bush "went tight" because of
my failure to scour out the powder coat overspray from the interior of
the LG frame tube; when I tapped the bushing in place w/ a rubber
mallet it compressed just a tad but enough to keep the shaft from
rotating freely. I believe I've solved my problem satisfactorily as
follows:
I mentioned that I'd only loctited one of the bushes. In order to not
repeat my problem, I happened to have an 80 grit flap wheel for my
Dremel which was about 1/8" dia. smaller than the tube, and I used it
to hone the interior of the tube, removing all overspray from the
powder coating and brightened it up. This allowed the second bush
(which turned freely...while mounted on the shaft) to slide
effortlessly into the LG frame tube.
After taking another look at the bush which had been previously
loctited in the tube, I used the flap wheel to lightly hone or dress
(not sure of the proper term here) the inside surface of the
bush...after several iterations (including sequential greasing and
degreasing w/ solvent), this seemed to be doing the trick. The shaft
now rotates freely without slop, and I've now loctited the second bush
in place.
Onward and upward,
Fred
A194
On Saturday, Nov 24, 2007, at 13:12 US/Pacific, Graham Singleton wrote:
> When you get it out you need to find out why the bust went tight!?
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Subject: | Re: LG mounting frame |
glad you're out of trouble Fred!
Graham
Fred Klein wrote:
>
> Thanks Graham and Bob for your thoughts. I'm quite mindful of the need
> for a close tolerance fit of the shaft within the bushings, hence my
> query and head-scratching.
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