---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/17/07: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:38 AM - Re: Flying report (Graham Singleton) 2. 03:56 AM - Re: Flying report (josok) 3. 04:19 AM - Re: Flying report (Graham Singleton) 4. 01:20 PM - Alas the time has come.... (Tony Krzyzewski) 5. 02:25 PM - Re: Alas the time has come.... (Laptop JR) 6. 02:45 PM - Re: Alas the time has come.... (Tony Krzyzewski) 7. 03:38 PM - rudder cable protection (Fred Klein) 8. 03:39 PM - Re: Alas the time has come.... (rlborger) 9. 04:18 PM - N914PB for sale (Paul Boulet) 10. 04:49 PM - Re: rudder cable protection (rlborger) 11. 06:34 PM - Re: rudder cable protection (Karl Heindl) 12. 07:14 PM - Re: rudder cable protection (Paul McAllister) 13. 09:25 PM - Re: rudder cable protection (Jerry Rehn) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:38:46 AM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flying report Just an aside about Lapland, did you know that Jos heats his home with the water in that lake? The water at the bottom of the lake is around 4deg C, -30C outside.Quite a special person is our Jos. Graham SteveD wrote: > > Great picture! sort of surreal. Stay warm and happy holidays! > > > > > > > Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org > > > > > > > > > -- Graham Singleton Tel: +441629820187 Mob: +447739582005 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:56:00 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flying report From: "josok" Hi All, Graham:Yes, i have been dreaming about landing on the lake for years. The runway actually is only 8 km long, and 4 km wide. It's not difficult to select into wind. At the same time i should mention that it is not all roses either :-) There are large objects like islands, smaller like fishing net markers, power cables, and not to forget, rotors and wind shear between the hills. Outside the airport the pilot is really on his own. Bob, Skies on the tri-gear should not be too difficult. Close to impossible on the mono, like any other retractable. No clamp, no play (so far) Airbear, I pick up heat behind the water radiator, in the place where normally the oil cooler would be. It' s under dimensioned now, and will be improved during the winter. My workshop is insulated and heated, no problems with -40 C outside, other then extremely low humidity, which has caused problems. Graham, off topic, it's just a heat pump, like you all have in fridges and aircos. Very efficient, 75% of the heating energy is taken from the lake. Thanks for all the nice reactions you all! Regards, Jos Okhuijsen Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:19:53 AM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: Flying report Jos one thing you need to check, when the airplane is cold soaked, the resin will be brittle. I don't know what the limits on Ampreg are. In the early days of flying glass gliders to hi altitude in winter, (wave) several gliders were damaged ( had to be written off) when they flew into rough air with the airframe cold. regards Graham josok wrote: > > Hi All, > Graham:Yes, i have been dreaming about landing on the lake for years. The runway actually is only 8 km long, and 4 km wide. It's not difficult to select into wind. > At the same time i should mention that it is not all roses either :-) > There are large objects like islands, smaller like fishing net markers, power cables, and not to forget, rotors and wind shear between the hills. Outside the airport the pilot is really on his own. > Bob, Skies on the tri-gear should not be too difficult. Close to impossible on the mono, like any other retractable. No clamp, no play (so far) > Airbear, I pick up heat behind the water radiator, in the place where normally the oil cooler would be. It' s under dimensioned now, and will be improved during the winter. My workshop is insulated and heated, no problems with -40 C outside, other then extremely low humidity, which has caused problems. > Graham, off topic, it's just a heat pump, like you all have in fridges and aircos. Very efficient, 75% of the heating energy is taken from the lake. > Thanks for all the nice reactions you all! > > Regards, > > Jos Okhuijsen > > > > > > > Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org > > > > > > > > > -- Graham Singleton Tel: +441629820187 Mob: +447739582005 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:20:51 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Alas the time has come.... From: "Tony Krzyzewski" As many of you will be aware, due to a number of reasons, I haven't done a lot of work on my aircraft for a while even though there's only a little bit of work to do on it before it flies. On top of that I lost my pilot medical last week. It's nothing life threatening but enough to make the CAA want to bankrupt me with medical bills before they will reinstate it and with our house construction under way I have other things which have to take financial priority. Europa Kit #272 is now for sale. I have yet to establish a price but I am now taking expressions of interest in the aircraft which will be sold with its 914 engine. I'll be selling the instruments as individual items so if you are about to go and buy instruments (including a FlightDek D180) it'd be worth getting in contact with me! Please email me off group (tonyk@kaon.co.nz) Regards (and a Merry Christmas) to all. Tony ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:31 PM PST US From: "Laptop JR" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Alas the time has come.... Dear Tony Sorry to hear your news which no doubt means we will lose you from the foru m! I wish you well in your changed life. Sincerely JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Krzyzewski To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:19 AM Subject: Europa-List: Alas the time has come.... As many of you will be aware, due to a number of reasons, I haven't done a lot of work on my aircraft for a while even though there's only a little bit of work to do on it before it flies. On top of that I lost my pilot med ical last week. It's nothing life threatening but enough to make the CAA wa nt to bankrupt me with medical bills before they will reinstate it and with our house construction under way I have other things which have to take fi nancial priority. Europa Kit #272 is now for sale. I have yet to establish a price but I am now taking expressions of intere st in the aircraft which will be sold with its 914 engine. I'll be selling the instruments as individual items so if you are about to go and buy instr uments (including a FlightDek D180) it'd be worth getting in contact with m e! Please email me off group (tonyk@kaon.co.nz) Regards (and a Merry Christmas) to all. Tony --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 07 2:13 PM -- ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:45:43 PM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: Alas the time has come.... From: "Tony Krzyzewski" Nope ... I'll still be here as I'm going to carry on representing Europa in NZ and OZ and think I might have something to offer. Tony From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Laptop JR Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2007 11:23 a.m. Subject: Re: Europa-List: Alas the time has come.... Dear Tony Sorry to hear your news which no doubt means we will lose you from the forum! I wish you well in your changed life. Sincerely JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Krzyzewski To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:19 AM Subject: Europa-List: Alas the time has come.... As many of you will be aware, due to a number of reasons, I haven't done a lot of work on my aircraft for a while even though there's only a little bit of work to do on it before it flies. On top of that I lost my pilot medical last week. It's nothing life threatening but enough to make the CAA want to bankrupt me with medical bills before they will reinstate it and with our house construction under way I have other things which have to take financial priority. Europa Kit #272 is now for sale. I have yet to establish a price but I am now taking expressions of interest in the aircraft which will be sold with its 914 engine. I'll be selling the instruments as individual items so if you are about to go and buy instruments (including a FlightDek D180) it'd be worth getting in contact with me! Please email me off group (tonyk@kaon.co.nz) Regards (and a Merry Christmas) to all. Tony ________________________________ ate: 17/12/2007 2:13 PM ________________________________ their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:38:54 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: rudder cable protection From: Fred Klein All flying monwheelies, I'm wondering about the advisability of protecting the rudder cables from potential muck and moisture where they run through the wheel well by encasing them in some kind of tubing. Is there anyone out there who wishes they had? Or anyone who regrets doing so, and if so, why? Is anyone aware of any downside to doing so? Or is this just another non-issue which might prompt the comment, "Fred, just build the plane!" ? Fred A194 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:39:01 PM PST US From: rlborger Subject: Re: Europa-List: Alas the time has come.... Tony, Very sorry to hear of your aviation problems and the resulting sale of your Europa. Your site and Paul McAllister's site were very inspirational in my selection of the Europa and have provided much excellent information over the years. I'm glad to hear you will remain active in the group. Best wishes in your new future, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL (90%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done. Baggage bay in. Flaps & Main Gear complete. Mod 72 complete. Instrument panel complete, except for testing. Rotax 914 installed (for the 3rd time). Airmaster Prop installed. Electrical complete, except for testing. Fuel system complete except for testing. Working in - 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Interior & Finishing. Airmaster arrived 29 Sep 05. Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. E04 interior kit has arrived and is being installed. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Dec 17, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Tony Krzyzewski wrote: > As many of you will be aware, due to a number of reasons, I haven=92t > done a lot of work on my aircraft for a while even though there=92s > only a little bit of work to do on it before it flies. On top of > that I lost my pilot medical last week. It=92s nothing life > threatening but enough to make the CAA want to bankrupt me with > medical bills before they will reinstate it and with our house > construction under way I have other things which have to take > financial priority. > > > Europa Kit #272 is now for sale. > > > I have yet to establish a price but I am now taking expressions of > interest in the aircraft which will be sold with its 914 engine. > I=92ll be selling the instruments as individual items so if you are > about to go and buy instruments (including a FlightDek D180) it=92d > be worth getting in contact with me! > > > Please email me off group (tonyk@kaon.co.nz) > > > Regards (and a Merry Christmas) to all. > > > Tony > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:18:55 PM PST US From: Paul Boulet Subject: Europa-List: N914PB for sale tri gear with 914, turbo intercooler, 25 hours on engine/airframe- tons of upgrades/mods. Priced for quick sale. contact me off list if interested. Thanks, Paul Boulet, malibu, CA pablitogoeswild@yahoo.com ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:49:23 PM PST US From: rlborger Subject: Re: Europa-List: rudder cable protection Fred, I used Nyloflow tubing to cover the rudder cables from the firewall to well aft of the wheel well. Since I'm not quite flying yet, I can't comment on the efficacy of the treatment. Good building and great flying, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL (90%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done. Baggage bay in. Flaps & Main Gear complete. Mod 72 complete. Instrument panel complete, except for testing. Rotax 914 installed (for the 3rd time). Airmaster Prop installed. Electrical complete, except for testing. Fuel system complete except for testing. Working in - 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Interior & Finishing. Airmaster arrived 29 Sep 05. Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. E04 interior kit has arrived and is being installed. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Dec 17, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Fred Klein wrote: > > All flying monwheelies, > > I'm wondering about the advisability of protecting the rudder > cables from potential muck and moisture where they run through the > wheel well by encasing them in some kind of tubing. > > Is there anyone out there who wishes they had? > > Or anyone who regrets doing so, and if so, why? > > Is anyone aware of any downside to doing so? > > Or is this just another non-issue which might prompt the comment, > "Fred, just build the plane!" ? > > Fred > A194 > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:34:11 PM PST US From: Karl Heindl Subject: RE: Europa-List: rudder cable protection Fred, I and others have done same. Tube is attached to tunnel sides with P-clips. Have not had any problems and wouldn't expect any. Karl ________________________________ From: rlborger@mac.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: rudder cable protection Fred, I used Nyloflow tubing to cover the rudder cables from the firewall to well aft of the wheel well. Since I'm not quite flying yet, I can't comment on the efficacy of the treatment. Good building and great flying, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL (90%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done. Baggage bay in. Flaps & Main Gear complete. Mod 72 complete. Instrument panel complete, except for testing. Rotax 914 installed (for the 3rd time). Airmaster Prop installed. Electrical complete, except for testing. Fuel system complete except for testing. Working in - 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Interior & Finishing. Airmaster arrived 29 Sep 05. Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. E04 interior kit has arrived and is being installed. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Dec 17, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Fred Klein wrote: All flying monwheelies, I'm wondering about the advisability of protecting the rudder cables from potential muck and moisture where they run through the wheel well by encasing them in some kind of tubing. Is there anyone out there who wishes they had? Or anyone who regrets doing so, and if so, why? Is anyone aware of any downside to doing so? Or is this just another non-issue which might prompt the comment, "Fred, just build the plane!" ? Fred A194 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. (And Get Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Click on this year's Terrific Free Incentive Gifts! List Contribution Web Site: --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you for your generous support! -Matt Dralle, List Admin. - The Europa-List Email Forum - --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - --> http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:51 PM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Re: Europa-List: rudder cable protection Fred, I used Nyloflow and after 700 hours I haven't seen any down side. I believe that is how it is done on the Long Eze's as well. Cheers, Paul ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:25:16 PM PST US From: "Jerry Rehn" Subject: RE: Europa-List: rudder cable protection Fred You keep adding stuff and you won't make it to OSH this year or next! Mine are per factory and after 7 years may have some dirt on them but are working fine and are easy to inspect for corrosion etc. If it's not broke why fix it? Jerry -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Klein Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:37 PM Subject: Europa-List: rudder cable protection All flying monwheelies, I'm wondering about the advisability of protecting the rudder cables from potential muck and moisture where they run through the wheel well by encasing them in some kind of tubing. Is there anyone out there who wishes they had? Or anyone who regrets doing so, and if so, why? Is anyone aware of any downside to doing so? Or is this just another non-issue which might prompt the comment, "Fred, just build the plane!" ? 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