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     1. 01:02 AM - Re: rudder cable protection, Europa at High Altitude (Richard Lamprey)
     2. 01:42 AM - Re: rudder cable protection (josok)
     3. 01:47 AM - Re: rudder cable protection (karelvranken)
     4. 02:09 AM - Re: Alas the time has come.... (Laptop JR)
     5. 02:32 AM - Re: rudder cable protection (David Joyce)
     6. 02:40 AM - Re: Alas the time has come.... (Robert C Harrison)
     7. 09:11 AM - Re: Alas the time has come.... (John & Paddy Wigney)
     8. 08:58 PM - Re: rudder cable protection (Fred Klein)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: rudder cable protection, Europa at High Altitude | 
      
      Fred,
      I think this is useful to do, and have done it with my Europa Monowheel 
      Classic 5Y-LRY here in Kenya.  The rudder cables run down plastic tubes 
      through the wheel well; they are clear under the pulleys; then they run 
      inside tubes again over a series of spacers all the way down the rear 
      fuselage which stops the flopping about too loosely on the floor of the 
      fuselage as I seem to recall in the early Classics (especially with 
      vigorous rudder action).   Then linked out to the XS tailwheel.  The 
      rudder action is very smooth.  The idea actually came from seeing a 
      Europa in the hangar of Roger Targett in Nympsfield with this 
      adaptation.  My tubes came from Electro-Mail, as I recall.  I can send 
      pictures if you like.
      
      On the subject of Europa in Kenya.  I operate my Classic with a 912UL 
      (80 hp) engine, and ground adjustable Warp Drive.  My local airfield is 
      at 5500 feet asl, which on a hot day at 30 C equates to about 8000 
      density altitude.  During construction, many told me that the Europa 
      would not even leave the ground under these conditions. Actually, it 
      does very well, 2 up, up to max load.  Just takes a little time, about 
      500 m off a tarmac runway, level off in ground effect for another 300 m, 
      then away at about 300' per minute up.  It certainly hones your 
      tailwheel skills.  On the shorter bush strips, caution is definitely 
      needed. 
      
      Christmas greetings to all.
      Richard
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: rudder cable protection | 
      
      
      Fred,
      Even in Summer it's below freezing at high altitudes. Such a cable in a tube could
      contain water and freeze stuck. 
      
      Regards,
      
      Jos Okhuijsen
      
      
      Visit -  www.EuropaOwners.org
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: rudder cable protection | 
      
      
      Fred,
      The cable in the tubing, even partly, will not be visible for inspection.
      When using teflon tubing for lubrication without oil or grease, you cannot 
      avoid dust and sand entering the tubes and cause more wear inside.
      If you land often in mud or when ploughing your private strip, wash it 
      regularily and inspect condition. A mud cap can be of interest over the 
      wheel.
      Seasons greetings.
      Karel Vranken,  F-PKRL
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Fred Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:36 AM
      Subject: Europa-List: rudder cable protection
      
      
      >
      > All flying monwheelies,
      >
      > I'm wondering about the advisability of protecting the rudder cables from 
      > potential muck and moisture where they run through the wheel well by 
      > encasing them in some kind of tubing.
      >
      > Is there anyone out there who wishes they had?
      >
      > Or anyone who regrets doing so, and if so, why?
      >
      > Is anyone aware of any downside to doing so?
      >
      > Or is this just another non-issue which might prompt the comment, "Fred, 
      > just build the plane!" ?
      >
      > Fred
      > A194
      >
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| Subject:  | Re: Alas the time has come.... | 
      
      Tony!
      
      Good to hear! You should do a great job.
      
      Best Wishes
      
      JR 
      
      do not archive
      ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Tony Krzyzewski 
        To: europa-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:44 AM
        Subject: RE: Europa-List: Alas the time has come....
      
      
        Nope . I'll still be here as I'm going to carry on representing Europa in
       NZ and OZ and think I might have something to offer.
      
         
      
        Tony
      
         
      
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      rver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Laptop JR
        Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2007 11:23 a.m.
        To: europa-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: Europa-List: Alas the time has come....
      
         
      
        Dear Tony
      
         
      
        Sorry to hear your news which no doubt means we will lose you from the fo
      rum!
      
         
      
        I wish you well in your changed life.
      
         
      
        Sincerely
      
        JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz
      
         
      
        do not archive
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
      
          From: Tony Krzyzewski 
      
          To: europa-list@matronics.com 
      
          Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:19 AM
      
          Subject: Europa-List: Alas the time has come....
      
           
      
          As many of you will be aware, due to a number of reasons, I haven't don
      e a lot of work on my aircraft for a while even though there's only a littl
      e bit of work to do on it before it flies. On top of that I lost my pilot m
      edical last week. It's nothing life threatening but enough to make the CAA 
      want to bankrupt me with medical bills before they will reinstate it and wi
      th our house construction under way I have other things which have to take 
      financial priority.
      
           
      
          Europa Kit #272 is now for sale.
      
           
      
          I have yet to establish a price but I am now taking expressions of inte
      rest in the aircraft which will be sold with its 914 engine. I'll be sellin
      g the instruments as individual items so if you are about to go and buy ins
      truments (including a FlightDek D180) it'd be worth getting in contact with
       me!
      
           
      
          Please email me off group (tonyk@kaon.co.nz) 
      
           
      
          Regards (and a Merry Christmas) to all.
      
           
      
          Tony
      
           
      
      
           
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: rudder cable protection | 
      
      
      Fred, Nylaflow has worked perfectly for me x 6yrs. It's standard practice in
      glider dating back to the invention of Nylaflow. Although there is an
      inspection issue, my inspector (who is a professional glider repair
      engineer), tells me that cable wear in the protected bits is significantly
      less than in the exposed bits running over wheels or other bearing points.
      Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Fred Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
      Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:36 PM
      Subject: Europa-List: rudder cable protection
      
      
      >
      > All flying monwheelies,
      >
      > I'm wondering about the advisability of protecting the rudder cables
      > from potential muck and moisture where they run through the wheel well
      > by encasing them in some kind of tubing.
      >
      > Is there anyone out there who wishes they had?
      >
      > Or anyone who regrets doing so, and if so, why?
      >
      > Is anyone aware of any downside to doing so?
      >
      > Or is this just another non-issue which might prompt the comment,
      > "Fred, just build the plane!" ?
      >
      > Fred
      > A194
      >
      >
      > -- 
      > This message has been scanned for viruses and
      > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
      > believed to be clean.
      >
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Alas the time has come.... | 
      
      ..........and all that phenomenal scenery so close at hand..so
      exasperating .  However it is a narrow line we all walk for such a short
      time longer.
      Have a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year with many more to come.
      Best wishes for your future activities.
      Regards
      Bob  and Jan Harrison. G-PTAG
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Tony Krzyzewski <mailto:tonyk@kaon.co.nz>  
      Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:19 AM
      Subject: Europa-List: Alas the time has come....
      
      As many of you will be aware, due to a number of reasons, I haven't done
      a lot of work on my aircraft for a while even though there's only a
      little bit of work to do on it before it flies. On top of that I lost my
      pilot medical last week. It's nothing life threatening but enough to
      make the CAA want to bankrupt me with medical bills before they will
      reinstate it and with our house construction under way I have other
      things which have to take financial priority.
      
      Europa Kit #272 is now for sale.
      
      I have yet to establish a price but I am now taking expressions of
      interest in the aircraft which will be sold with its 914 engine. I'll be
      selling the instruments as individual items so if you are about to go
      and buy instruments (including a FlightDek D180) it'd be worth getting
      in contact with me!
      
      Please email me off group (tonyk@kaon.co.nz) 
      
      Regards (and a Merry Christmas) to all.
      
      Tony
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Alas the time has come.... | 
      
      
      Hi Tony,
      
      I am sad to hear that you plan to sell  #272. I have to thank you for 
      your major contribution to Europa building peace of mind with your 
      excellent website at http://www.kaon.co.nz/europa/. I believe that you 
      were the pioneer with a comprehensive log and photo record of your build 
      and it certainly helped me a lot.
      
      Regarding your medical setback, you might take consolation in a 
      philosophical comment in times of disaster by a good friend of mine. The 
      comment was - "Worse things happen at sea.", and most of the time he was 
      correct. I wish you much success and happiness in your new lifestyle.
      
      Cheers, John
      N262WF, mono XS, 912S
      Mooresville, North Carolina
      
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      Subject: Europa-List: Alas the time has come....
      From: "Tony Krzyzewski" <tonyk@kaon.co.nz>
      As many of you will be aware, due to a number of reasons, I haven't done
      a lot of work on my aircraft for a while even though there's only a
      little bit of work to do on it before it flies. On top of that I lost my
      pilot medical last week. It's nothing life threatening but enough to
      make the CAA want to bankrupt me with medical bills before they will
      reinstate it and with our house construction under way I have other
      things which have to take financial priority.
      Europa Kit #272 is now for sale.
      I have yet to establish a price but I am now taking expressions of
      interest in the aircraft which will be sold with its 914 engine. I'll be
      selling the instruments as individual items so if you are about to go
      and buy instruments (including a FlightDek D180) it'd be worth getting
      in contact with me!
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: rudder cable protection | 
      
      
      Thanks guys for all the thoughtful comments to my query. As I still 
      have questions in my mind as to the exact path f the rudder cables and 
      potential clearance issues, I'm going to wait until I can trial fit 
      them before deciding about the nylaflow conduits. Without wanting to 
      prolong the subject, I gather that the cable guides and rubbing strip 
      would be altered or omitted entirely when conduit is used.
      
      Fred
      
      
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