---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/18/07: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:02 AM - Re: rudder cable protection, Europa at High Altitude (Richard Lamprey) 2. 01:42 AM - Re: rudder cable protection (josok) 3. 01:47 AM - Re: rudder cable protection (karelvranken) 4. 02:09 AM - Re: Alas the time has come.... (Laptop JR) 5. 02:32 AM - Re: rudder cable protection (David Joyce) 6. 02:40 AM - Re: Alas the time has come.... (Robert C Harrison) 7. 09:11 AM - Re: Alas the time has come.... (John & Paddy Wigney) 8. 08:58 PM - Re: rudder cable protection (Fred Klein) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:02:57 AM PST US From: "Richard Lamprey" Subject: Re: Europa-List: rudder cable protection, Europa at High Altitude Fred, I think this is useful to do, and have done it with my Europa Monowheel Classic 5Y-LRY here in Kenya. The rudder cables run down plastic tubes through the wheel well; they are clear under the pulleys; then they run inside tubes again over a series of spacers all the way down the rear fuselage which stops the flopping about too loosely on the floor of the fuselage as I seem to recall in the early Classics (especially with vigorous rudder action). Then linked out to the XS tailwheel. The rudder action is very smooth. The idea actually came from seeing a Europa in the hangar of Roger Targett in Nympsfield with this adaptation. My tubes came from Electro-Mail, as I recall. I can send pictures if you like. On the subject of Europa in Kenya. I operate my Classic with a 912UL (80 hp) engine, and ground adjustable Warp Drive. My local airfield is at 5500 feet asl, which on a hot day at 30 C equates to about 8000 density altitude. During construction, many told me that the Europa would not even leave the ground under these conditions. Actually, it does very well, 2 up, up to max load. Just takes a little time, about 500 m off a tarmac runway, level off in ground effect for another 300 m, then away at about 300' per minute up. It certainly hones your tailwheel skills. On the shorter bush strips, caution is definitely needed. Christmas greetings to all. Richard ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:29 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: rudder cable protection From: "josok" Fred, Even in Summer it's below freezing at high altitudes. Such a cable in a tube could contain water and freeze stuck. Regards, Jos Okhuijsen Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:47:02 AM PST US From: "karelvranken" Subject: Re: Europa-List: rudder cable protection Fred, The cable in the tubing, even partly, will not be visible for inspection. When using teflon tubing for lubrication without oil or grease, you cannot avoid dust and sand entering the tubes and cause more wear inside. If you land often in mud or when ploughing your private strip, wash it regularily and inspect condition. A mud cap can be of interest over the wheel. Seasons greetings. Karel Vranken, F-PKRL ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Klein" Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:36 AM Subject: Europa-List: rudder cable protection > > All flying monwheelies, > > I'm wondering about the advisability of protecting the rudder cables from > potential muck and moisture where they run through the wheel well by > encasing them in some kind of tubing. > > Is there anyone out there who wishes they had? > > Or anyone who regrets doing so, and if so, why? > > Is anyone aware of any downside to doing so? > > Or is this just another non-issue which might prompt the comment, "Fred, > just build the plane!" ? > > Fred > A194 > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:09:22 AM PST US From: "Laptop JR" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Alas the time has come.... Tony! Good to hear! You should do a great job. Best Wishes JR do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Krzyzewski To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 9:44 AM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Alas the time has come.... Nope . I'll still be here as I'm going to carry on representing Europa in NZ and OZ and think I might have something to offer. Tony From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-se rver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Laptop JR Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2007 11:23 a.m. To: europa-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Alas the time has come.... Dear Tony Sorry to hear your news which no doubt means we will lose you from the fo rum! I wish you well in your changed life. Sincerely JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Krzyzewski To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:19 AM Subject: Europa-List: Alas the time has come.... As many of you will be aware, due to a number of reasons, I haven't don e a lot of work on my aircraft for a while even though there's only a littl e bit of work to do on it before it flies. On top of that I lost my pilot m edical last week. It's nothing life threatening but enough to make the CAA want to bankrupt me with medical bills before they will reinstate it and wi th our house construction under way I have other things which have to take financial priority. Europa Kit #272 is now for sale. I have yet to establish a price but I am now taking expressions of inte rest in the aircraft which will be sold with its 914 engine. I'll be sellin g the instruments as individual items so if you are about to go and buy ins truments (including a FlightDek D180) it'd be worth getting in contact with me! Please email me off group (tonyk@kaon.co.nz) Regards (and a Merry Christmas) to all. Tony --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ate: 17/12/2007 2:13 PM --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 07 2:13 PM -- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:32:20 AM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Re: Europa-List: rudder cable protection Fred, Nylaflow has worked perfectly for me x 6yrs. It's standard practice in glider dating back to the invention of Nylaflow. Although there is an inspection issue, my inspector (who is a professional glider repair engineer), tells me that cable wear in the protected bits is significantly less than in the exposed bits running over wheels or other bearing points. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Klein" Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 11:36 PM Subject: Europa-List: rudder cable protection > > All flying monwheelies, > > I'm wondering about the advisability of protecting the rudder cables > from potential muck and moisture where they run through the wheel well > by encasing them in some kind of tubing. > > Is there anyone out there who wishes they had? > > Or anyone who regrets doing so, and if so, why? > > Is anyone aware of any downside to doing so? > > Or is this just another non-issue which might prompt the comment, > "Fred, just build the plane!" ? > > Fred > A194 > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:40:20 AM PST US From: "Robert C Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Alas the time has come.... ..........and all that phenomenal scenery so close at hand..so exasperating . However it is a narrow line we all walk for such a short time longer. Have a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year with many more to come. Best wishes for your future activities. Regards Bob and Jan Harrison. G-PTAG ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Krzyzewski Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:19 AM Subject: Europa-List: Alas the time has come.... As many of you will be aware, due to a number of reasons, I haven't done a lot of work on my aircraft for a while even though there's only a little bit of work to do on it before it flies. On top of that I lost my pilot medical last week. It's nothing life threatening but enough to make the CAA want to bankrupt me with medical bills before they will reinstate it and with our house construction under way I have other things which have to take financial priority. Europa Kit #272 is now for sale. I have yet to establish a price but I am now taking expressions of interest in the aircraft which will be sold with its 914 engine. I'll be selling the instruments as individual items so if you are about to go and buy instruments (including a FlightDek D180) it'd be worth getting in contact with me! Please email me off group (tonyk@kaon.co.nz) Regards (and a Merry Christmas) to all. Tony _____ ate: 17/12/2007 2:13 PM _____ their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:10 AM PST US From: John & Paddy Wigney Subject: Re: Europa-List: Alas the time has come.... Hi Tony, I am sad to hear that you plan to sell #272. I have to thank you for your major contribution to Europa building peace of mind with your excellent website at http://www.kaon.co.nz/europa/. I believe that you were the pioneer with a comprehensive log and photo record of your build and it certainly helped me a lot. Regarding your medical setback, you might take consolation in a philosophical comment in times of disaster by a good friend of mine. The comment was - "Worse things happen at sea.", and most of the time he was correct. I wish you much success and happiness in your new lifestyle. Cheers, John N262WF, mono XS, 912S Mooresville, North Carolina ****************** ORIGINAL MESSAGE Subject: Europa-List: Alas the time has come.... From: "Tony Krzyzewski" As many of you will be aware, due to a number of reasons, I haven't done a lot of work on my aircraft for a while even though there's only a little bit of work to do on it before it flies. On top of that I lost my pilot medical last week. It's nothing life threatening but enough to make the CAA want to bankrupt me with medical bills before they will reinstate it and with our house construction under way I have other things which have to take financial priority. Europa Kit #272 is now for sale. I have yet to establish a price but I am now taking expressions of interest in the aircraft which will be sold with its 914 engine. I'll be selling the instruments as individual items so if you are about to go and buy instruments (including a FlightDek D180) it'd be worth getting in contact with me! ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:21 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: rudder cable protection From: Fred Klein Thanks guys for all the thoughtful comments to my query. As I still have questions in my mind as to the exact path f the rudder cables and potential clearance issues, I'm going to wait until I can trial fit them before deciding about the nylaflow conduits. Without wanting to prolong the subject, I gather that the cable guides and rubbing strip would be altered or omitted entirely when conduit is used. Fred -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.