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1. 12:41 AM - Re: Fuel Dump Valve (josok)
2. 01:06 AM - Re: Fuel Dump Valve (raggi6771)
3. 01:35 AM - Re: Fuel Dump Valve (David Steade)
4. 01:37 AM - Re: Fitting Rotax ring mount for 912uls (Richard Scanlan)
5. 09:05 AM - Re: Fuel Dump Valve (josok)
6. 09:36 AM - Fuel pumps (Fergus Kyle)
7. 10:20 AM - Re: Fuel pumps (Robert C Harrison)
8. 11:04 AM - Re: Fitting Rotax ring mount for 912uls (ALAN YERLY)
9. 12:15 PM - Re: Fuel pumps (Kevin Klinefelter)
10. 12:26 PM - Re: Fuel Dump Valve (craig bastin)
11. 04:02 PM - Re: Fuel pumps (ALAN YERLY)
12. 04:09 PM - Re: Fuel pumps (Gilles Thesee)
13. 04:51 PM - Re: Fuel pumps (Graham Singleton)
14. 04:51 PM - Tailplane torque tube proposed mod for replacement of quarter inch pins. (Dino Baker)
15. 05:36 PM - Trouble Shooting Turbo Issue (Paul McAllister)
16. 05:52 PM - Re: Trouble Shooting Turbo Issue (kbcarpenter@comcast.net)
17. 06:42 PM - Mod 73 (Craig Ellison)
18. 06:48 PM - Re: Trouble Shooting Turbo Issue (Garry)
19. 06:51 PM - Re: Trouble Shooting Turbo Issue (Garry)
20. 07:01 PM - Fuel pumps (Fergus Kyle)
21. 07:12 PM - Re: Trouble Shooting Turbo Issue ()
22. 07:46 PM - Re: Mod 73 (Tom Friedland)
23. 08:17 PM - Re: Mod 73 (JEFF ROBERTS)
24. 08:23 PM - Re: Trouble Shooting Turbo Issue (craig bastin)
25. 09:19 PM - Re: Mod 73/Reamer available (Kevin Klinefelter)
26. 09:39 PM - Re: Mod 73 (Fred Klein)
27. 10:29 PM - Re: Mod 73 (Craig Ellison)
28. 10:31 PM - Re: Mod 73 (Craig Ellison)
29. 10:36 PM - Re: Mod 73 (Craig Ellison)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Dump Valve |
Statistically the number one reason for crashes and forced landings is running
out of fuel. Adding fuel dump valves is adding one more possible failure mode
leading to running without fuel. Most of these cases are pilot error. Best leave
the pilot home :-) Flying safety is a compromise. If you keep adding everything
one could possibly think of, you will end up with a plane that will so heavy
that it will never leave the ground. Which makes it a pretty safe thing which
is not an airplane any more.
More specific to the Europa and it's backrest fuel tank, i can't remember fire
balls on crashing. Only with added fuel tanks.
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Dump Valve |
Oh i realize fire is not a primary issue in a forced landing, and I am not sure
what the availability of airstrips is like in Europe, but with some areas of
Australia once you leave the coastal strip you could be looking at
an hour or more of flying before you have any options for landing because
of the mountains and total lack of population. Given that, landing in trees
is mostly your only option, and just seems like less weight would be a good thing
in that situation IMHO
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Dump Valve |
Craig
>From memory I think I had to remove the starter motor and the water pump
header and hoses from the rear of the engine.
The standard alternator stayed in place.
Regards
David Steade
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| Subject: | Fitting Rotax ring mount for 912uls |
Hi Keith, I had the same problem, but with the added joy of having to
fit the cooling shroud as well.
You have to remove the starter motor and unbolt the ignition modules. Be
careful not to allow the starter motor to disassemble itself as you
remove it. Give yourself a good clear working space and lots of
patience!
Richard Scanlan
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Keith
Hickling
Sent: 27 December 2007 07:09
Subject: Europa-List: Fitting Rotax ring mount for 912uls
Merry Christmas everyone.
Can someone please tell me how to fit the ringmount for the 912 uls? So
far I've disconnected the rear mount of the ignition modules so the
mount can slide under that, and the bottom 2 coolant hoses, but I still
can't get the mount past the starter motor. Or, if I lift it over the
starter motor first then it won't get past the alternator. Is it
necessary to remove the starter motor, or can the ringmount somehow be
manipulated past it? It's a bit like those Chinese puzzles designed to
drive you mad!
Many thanks,
Keith Hickling,
New Zealand.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Dump Valve |
Hi Craig,
Funny that you bring up this lack of emergency landing places up. It is really
the same here. A forest fire check flight last 3 hours, around the airport basically,
and less then 20 minutes in reach of some road or flat spot. So far the
only damage we had was from a freak storm while parked at the airport. Only
from the reactions of other pilots, not used to these circumstances, i realized
that there is a difference. I guess that it all translates to be precise, be
careful, do not accept any "maybe it is good enough". We keep flying because
it's fun and after all the roads are more dangerous, with reindeer and mouse and
tourist distracted by them :-)
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Happy Christmas and New Year greetings...
Perhaps it's my advancing lack of thoroughness, but can't find the
magic electrical current values for the Rotax 914 pumps. Somewhere in the
dim past I calculated 15 feet of feed needs #18 wire because I measured 1.2A
when testing the output before installation. However it occurs to me that
perhaps the pumps demand more when under load and I haven't allowed for
that.
What's the consensus - or - where do I find the figures?
Cheers
Ferg
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Hi! Ferg
I seem to remember having a circuit line diagram with wire and fuse
sizes in the Europa manual.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fergus Kyle
Sent: 27 December 2007 15:23
Subject: Europa-List: Fuel pumps
Happy Christmas and New Year greetings...
Perhaps it's my advancing lack of thoroughness, but can't find
the
magic electrical current values for the Rotax 914 pumps. Somewhere in
the
dim past I calculated 15 feet of feed needs #18 wire because I measured
1.2A
when testing the output before installation. However it occurs to me
that
perhaps the pumps demand more when under load and I haven't allowed for
that.
What's the consensus - or - where do I find the figures?
Cheers
Ferg
--
24/12/2007 11:19
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| Subject: | Re: Fitting Rotax ring mount for 912uls |
Kieth,
Your fun has just begun. I have my Rotax dealer do my ring mounts, and
it's worth it. When they make the mods, the warranty is not in
question. However, if you want to do it yourself.
Remove the water pump cover and the lower pilot side hoses.
You've done the hard part of moving the ignition harness.
The starter can stay on, but access is better with it off.
The carbs don't have to be taken off, but it can help.
At this point getting the ring mount on is easy.
Next you may find that the ring mount doesn't fit snugly. Rotax sells a
shim kit for the mount which allows a proper fit. See their parts list.
Torque as indicated in the maintenance manual. The ring mount should
not be flexed to install.
Unless you are changing the exhaust system from the stock Europa, you
must replace the water pump housing lower left (looking forward) bent
nozzle from a 80 degree to a 45 degree. This will allow sufficient
clearance to position the muffler as the Fire Wall Forward (Euroopa XS)
instructions direct. To remove the 80 degree nozzle, heat the housing
carefully and rotate off the nozzle. I use a propane torch, and heat
the housing uniformly (about 400 degrees F) until the nozzle just starts
to move easily and maintain constant temp after the nozzle starts to
rotate and continue the uniform heat until off. A nice piece of 1/2
inch stock stuck in the hole works well. Do not cock the nozzle or you
will destroy the threads. If you have to, use a small pipe wrench. It
is best to remove both the nozzles on that side for ease of installation
and removal. You have to rotate the upper nozzle to turn the lower.
(It's never easy!) You might as well take off the one you loosened to
ensure a good seal. That's your choice. Clean the threads and
reinstall with loctite 243 in the orientation which will allow the two
lower pilot side hoses to fit through the V in the ring mount support.
When you reinstall the water pump housing, replace your gasket and if
necessary the compression washers. Please note the stainless bolt goes
at the 6 o'clock position and make sure you have a good seal with a new
or cleaned up compression washer. That bolt has coolant running around
it and it will leak if not done correctly. Torque as indicated. Do not
over torque. Again, consult with the Rotax parts list for the 45 degree
part number.
Reinstall the coolant lines and protect your hoses with a heat shield.
For better service, go to a racing catalogue and order aluminum heat
sleeve to finish off the installation. Get enough heat sleeve to do the
oil lines also.
Once the engine is modified as indicated above, the FWF assembly is
straight forward. Some have left the coolant lines below the ring mount
when using the older rounder style muffler, but even then, the muffler's
heat destroys the lower hose. One guy rotated the 80 degree nozzle aft,
and put a very long hose on the nozzle to clear the muffler. Not very
neat, and made mounting the engine more of a pain.
It takes a long day to do it the first time. Go slow and take your
time, don't force anything and enjoy yourself. It took longer to do
this email than modify the pump housing.
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations.
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Hickling<mailto:keithhickling@clear.net.nz>
To: Eurpoa List<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:09 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Fitting Rotax ring mount for 912uls
Merry Christmas everyone.
Can someone please tell me how to fit the ringmount for the 912 uls?
So far I've disconnected the rear mount of the ignition modules so the
mount can slide under that, and the bottom 2 coolant hoses, but I still
can't get the mount past the starter motor. Or, if I lift it over the
starter motor first then it won't get past the alternator. Is it
necessary to remove the starter motor, or can the ringmount somehow be
manipulated past it? It's a bit like those Chinese puzzles designed to
drive you mad!
Many thanks,
Keith Hickling,
New Zealand.
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Hi Ferg,
Rotax manual says 3amps per pump. Others I've heard from say 2.5.
I used #18 wire and grounded them locally at a ground bus near the rear
mounted battery.
Kevin
Fergus Kyle wrote:
>
> Happy Christmas and New Year greetings...
> Perhaps it's my advancing lack of thoroughness, but can't find the
> magic electrical current values for the Rotax 914 pumps. Somewhere in the
> dim past I calculated 15 feet of feed needs #18 wire because I measured 1.2A
> when testing the output before installation. However it occurs to me that
> perhaps the pumps demand more when under load and I haven't allowed for
> that.
> What's the consensus - or - where do I find the figures?
> Cheers
> Ferg
>
>
>
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Yes we have the same problem here with the wildlife, mostly they like to
throw themselves infront of your car and destroy it for you
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of josok
Sent: Friday, 28 December 2007 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel Dump Valve
Hi Craig,
Funny that you bring up this lack of emergency landing places up. It is
really the same here. A forest fire check flight last 3 hours, around the
airport basically, and less then 20 minutes in reach of some road or flat
spot. So far the only damage we had was from a freak storm while parked at
the airport. Only from the reactions of other pilots, not used to these
circumstances, i realized that there is a difference. I guess that it all
translates to be precise, be careful, do not accept any "maybe it is good
enough". We keep flying because it's fun and after all the roads are more
dangerous, with reindeer and mouse and tourist distracted by them :-)
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
5:26 PM
5:26 PM
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Ferg,
The Rotax Installation Manual has the values and charts. It is para
19.5 in my Rotax installation manual. The new Europa manual has the
diagram in chapter 25.
Typically the max the 914 will draw is 3 amps per pump at max pressure
and 2 min under light pressure load. The rest of the system draws about
1.3 for the servo and computer and .5 for the warning lamps.
As for wire size, #18 is the min size I'd do. The Europa manual shows
the pumps using a #20, and that will do amperage wise, but you will
notice the wire temperature rise a few degrees, although the voltage
drop is minor. #18 will supply 6 amps (double what you need) with only
10 degrees C rise in temp and .06 ohms per foot. That is enough safety
factor and a lower voltage drop for consistent operations at 3 amps.
Besides, my Amp ring connectors fit better. Pumps should be planned to
run constantly, and with a minimum drop of voltage at max load, and #18
can do it.
Remember the ground needs to be the same size, and I suggest separate
grounds per pump to ensure redundancy.
Rotax wants you to run the aux pump off the alternator direct for
redundancy but I have yet to do it. My wife liked the idea of running
mine off a separate battery (charged through a shotkey diode) to back up
full electrical failure. (Yea, she really hates the idea of the whirly
thing stopping up front.)
Happy new year.
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations
----- Original Message -----
From: Fergus Kyle<mailto:VE3LVO@rac.ca>
To: EUROPALIST<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Fuel pumps
<VE3LVO@rac.ca<mailto:VE3LVO@rac.ca>>
Happy Christmas and New Year greetings...
Perhaps it's my advancing lack of thoroughness, but can't find the
magic electrical current values for the Rotax 914 pumps. Somewhere in
the
dim past I calculated 15 feet of feed needs #18 wire because I
measured 1.2A
when testing the output before installation. However it occurs to me
that
perhaps the pumps demand more when under load and I haven't allowed
for
that.
What's the consensus - or - where do I find the figures?
Cheers
Ferg
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ALAN YERLY a crit :
>
> My wife liked the idea of running mine off a separate battery
> (charged through a shotkey diode) to back up full electrical failure.
> (Yea, she really hates the idea of the whirly thing stopping up front.)
Alan,
That's what we did, as a regulator failure would otherwise leave us with
no fuel pump.
The auxilliary battery is there only for the #2 pump.
Best regards,
--
Gilles
http://contrails.free.fr
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Bud
your wife has a beautiful mind!
Graham
ALAN YERLY wrote:
My wife liked the idea of running
> mine off a separate battery (charged through a shotkey diode) to back up
> full electrical failure. (Yea, she really hates the idea of the whirly
> thing stopping up front.)
>
> Happy new year.
> Bud Yerly
> Custom Flight Creations
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| Subject: | Tailplane torque tube proposed mod for replacement of quarter |
inch pins.
Gentlemen,
Here is my proposed mod.
Turn insert nut diameter 34mm and 19mm thick. Cut in half, 2 small blobs of
silastic to increase diameter to 35mm. This will hold insert in tube due to
compression of silicon. Tap bolt hole to suit eg. 1/4 af. Make sure a bolt
plain shank long enough so that no thread is in contact with tubes.
Saddle washers turned to o.d. of tubes. 16mm dia and 1/4 inch thick at
smallest radius.
Loctite or wire-lock bolts to suit.
If you want to discuss this with me, my phone number in Australia
0882773423. Get the time difference right.
Cheers,
John Baker,
Kit #181
730 hrs flying time.
N.b. detailed drawings were sent to Europa and PFA.
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| Subject: | Trouble Shooting Turbo Issue |
Hi all,
I am looking for some ideas on a problem with my 914T. I had the
carburettors overhauled by Lockwood aviation and after reassembling it
I have a new problem.
I can get 34" of boost at 100% throttle setting on take off at 1000'
msl, but when I climb the maximum boost available decreases with
altitude. For example I get about 27" at 8,500', and 24" and 12,500.
So far I have checked the following:
- Reseated / checked the TCU cable connections to the air box
- Checked for leaks / tightness on the carburettors
- Checked to see if the waste gate cycles properly when the TCU is turned on
- Calibrated the throttle positions on the TCU with my laptop
I haven't disconnected to cable to the waste gate yet to check if I
can get full movement on the waste gate because its way too cold to
work in the hanger.
The next time the weather permits flying I was thinking of connecting
my laptop to the TCU and see what the parameters are saying. For
example if the air box temperature sensor is faulty the TCU might
interpret this as over temp and not allow the waste gate to close.
Anyhow, I would appreciate ideas on this. It may be that the
carburettor overhaul is unrelated, but I thought I'd mention it
because it was what had been changed in recent times.
Regards, Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Trouble Shooting Turbo Issue |
I suggest you look into the end of the turbo and determine if the blades are spinning
freely. I had a similar problem and it was stuck turbo blades. The solution
for me was to get a twelve point socket and gently turn the turbo blades
after spraying the area with mouse milk(a turbine bearing lubricant). It sound
like you are getting some but not all of the turbo.
ken N 9XS 914 Mono
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for some ideas on a problem with my 914T. I had the
> carburettors overhauled by Lockwood aviation and after reassembling it
> I have a new problem.
>
> I can get 34" of boost at 100% throttle setting on take off at 1000'
> msl, but when I climb the maximum boost available decreases with
> altitude. For example I get about 27" at 8,500', and 24" and 12,500.
>
> So far I have checked the following:
>
> - Reseated / checked the TCU cable connections to the air box
> - Checked for leaks / tightness on the carburettors
> - Checked to see if the waste gate cycles properly when the TCU is turned on
> - Calibrated the throttle positions on the TCU with my laptop
>
> I haven't disconnected to cable to the waste gate yet to check if I
> can get full movement on the waste gate because its way too cold to
> work in the hanger.
>
> The next time the weather permits flying I was thinking of connecting
> my laptop to the TCU and see what the parameters are saying. For
> example if the air box temperature sensor is faulty the TCU might
> interpret this as over temp and not allow the waste gate to close.
>
> Anyhow, I would appreciate ideas on this. It may be that the
> carburettor overhaul is unrelated, but I thought I'd mention it
> because it was what had been changed in recent times.
>
> Regards, Paul
>
>
>
>
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<DIV>I suggest you look into the end of the turbo and determine if the blades are
spinning freely. I had a similar problem and it was stuck turbo blades.
The solution for me was to get a twelve point socket and gently turn the turbo
blades after spraying the area with mouse milk(a turbine bearing lubricant).
It sound like you are getting some but not all of the turbo.</DIV>
<DIV>ken N 9XS 914 Mono</DIV>
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<paul.the.aviator@gmail.com> <BR><BR>> --> Europa-List message
posted by: "Paul McAllister" <BR>> <PAUL.THE.AVIATOR@GMAIL.COM><BR>>
<BR>> Hi all, <BR>> <BR>> I am looking for some ideas on a problem with
my 914T. I had the <BR>> carburettors overhauled by Lockwood aviation and
after reassembling it <BR>> I have a new problem. <BR>> <BR>> I can
get 34" of boost at 100% throttle setting on take off at 1000' <BR>> msl,
but when I climb the maximum boost available decreases with <BR>> altitude.
For example I get about 27" at 8,500', and 24" and 12,500. <BR>> <BR>>
So far I have checked the following: <BR>> <BR>> - Reseated / checked the
TCU cable connections to the air box <BR>> - Checked for leaks / tightness
on the carburettors <BR>> - Checked to see if th
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All,
I just finished Mod 73 Undercarriage frame strengthing, wasn't much fun
and glad it's behind me. I now have a 16.5 mm hand reamer that I don't
have much use for. If there is anyone out there that hasn't
accomplished this Mod yet and needs one let me know and I'll send it on.
craig ellison
craig.ellison2@verizon.net
silverton, OR
N205CN
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| Subject: | Re: Trouble Shooting Turbo Issue |
Paul, if you haven't already, check the hose clamp connection of the airbox
hoses to the carburetor. These hoses have a way of vibrating themselves
loose from the carburetor, thus causing the "boost" from the turbo to be
vented to the outside atmosphere. It happened to me 4 or 5 times until I
safety wired the airbox to the carburetors.
Garry Stout
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:34 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Trouble Shooting Turbo Issue
> <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for some ideas on a problem with my 914T. I had the
> carburettors overhauled by Lockwood aviation and after reassembling it
> I have a new problem.
>
> I can get 34" of boost at 100% throttle setting on take off at 1000'
> msl, but when I climb the maximum boost available decreases with
> altitude. For example I get about 27" at 8,500', and 24" and 12,500.
>
> So far I have checked the following:
>
> - Reseated / checked the TCU cable connections to the air box
> - Checked for leaks / tightness on the carburettors
> - Checked to see if the waste gate cycles properly when the TCU is turned
> on
> - Calibrated the throttle positions on the TCU with my laptop
>
> I haven't disconnected to cable to the waste gate yet to check if I
> can get full movement on the waste gate because its way too cold to
> work in the hanger.
>
> The next time the weather permits flying I was thinking of connecting
> my laptop to the TCU and see what the parameters are saying. For
> example if the air box temperature sensor is faulty the TCU might
> interpret this as over temp and not allow the waste gate to close.
>
> Anyhow, I would appreciate ideas on this. It may be that the
> carburettor overhaul is unrelated, but I thought I'd mention it
> because it was what had been changed in recent times.
>
> Regards, Paul
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trouble Shooting Turbo Issue |
Further to Ken's advice I found a spray can product called "Blaster"
works much better than mouse milk for freeing up stuck turbo wastegates
and other internal parts. This product is sold in almost all auto parts
stores here in the US.
Garry Stout
----- Original Message -----
From: kbcarpenter@comcast.net
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trouble Shooting Turbo Issue
I suggest you look into the end of the turbo and determine if the
blades are spinning freely. I had a similar problem and it was stuck
turbo blades. The solution for me was to get a twelve point socket and
gently turn the turbo blades after spraying the area with mouse milk(a
turbine bearing lubricant). It sound like you are getting some but not
all of the turbo.
ken N 9XS 914 Mono
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I am looking for some ideas on a problem with my 914T. I had the
> carburettors overhauled by Lockwood aviation and after
reassembling it
> I have a new problem.
>
> I can get 34" of boost at 100% throttle setting on take off at
1000'
> msl, but when I climb the maximum boost available decreases with
> altitude. For example I get about 27" at 8,500', and 24" and
12,500.
>
> So far I have checked the following:
>
> - Reseated / checked the TCU cable connections to the air box
> - Checked for leaks / tightness on the carburettors
> - Checked to see if th e wast upport ======
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Hello,
Thanks to Kevin, Bud Yerly and Bob Harrison for speedy returns....
Of course I missed the applicable pages - and the pumps on the new pages
19.5 draw a max of 3A in spite of my measure of 1.55A at 100 L/h - I don't
know why but will persist with #18 and duplicated ground wires for a reduced
distance of 13.8 feet - so, much obliged for the answers.
With 13000 bits in one bedroom, I seem to be losing time looking for
things!
Again, many thanks.
Ferg
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| Subject: | Re: Trouble Shooting Turbo Issue |
Hi Paul
As far as limited boost on your 914 goes, first determine if the TCU is
opening the wastegate or if you have a physical problem. Cycle the
wastegate shut and turn off TCU and do a test to see if you can get max
boost, if you can let us know and we can go from there and troubleshoot
TCU. If it will not boost, it is a physical problem. Leak somewhere
between output of turbo and cylinders, (restricted intake????), or turbo
that is not spinning up fast enough due to binding, or problem with
impeller, make sure your wastegate is sealing AND CLOSING PROPERLY AND
FULLY, or could be a restricted exhaust.
Ron P.
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Hi Craig
As you know I am not yet flying and I have been awaiting a reamer... I am
sad that you have the bird for sale but since you did the mod maybe you have
changed your mind? I am thinking of a flight in the Spring because we now
have a foot or more of snow and it is supposed to snow for the next 24
hours... (I still believe in global warming.) The snow gives me a little
more reason for procrastination...
Off topic. Our local EAA group is building a Breezy in my shop. It is
going to be fun.
I have been wondering if you would be interested in making a first flight in
my bird as I am pretty rusty and evidently you have a grass strip that
sounds like it would be better for me. No big deal to trailer it down
there.
I will gladly pay for shipping and will send it on after.
If no one else claims it.
I am in deep snow at:
Tom Friedland, 70 Majestic Heights Dr. Ellensburg, WA 98926 509 480 0267
On Dec 27, 2007 6:41 PM, Craig Ellison <craig.ellison2@verizon.net> wrote:
> All,
>
> I just finished Mod 73 Undercarriage frame strengthing, wasn't much fun
> and glad it's behind me. I now have a 16.5 mm hand reamer that I don't
> have much use for. If there is anyone out there that hasn't accomplished
> this Mod yet and needs one let me know and I'll send it on.
>
> craig ellison
> craig.ellison2@verizon.net
> silverton, OR
> N205CN
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Craig,
I will be needing this soon I hope. We have been trying to get my
shop/hanger ready to some Europa to Gold Rush and I'm almost there. Mod
73 is one on my list. If no one else needs it right away put me on your
list. E-mail me at jeff@rmmm.net when you have a chance.
Thanks,
Jeff R.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 100 hours and climbing slowly.
On Dec 27, 2007, at 8:41 PM, Craig Ellison wrote:
> All,
>
> I just finished Mod 73 Undercarriage frame strengthing, wasn't much
> fun and glad it's behind me. I now have a 16.5 mm hand reamer that I
> don't have much use for. If there is anyone out there that hasn't
> accomplished this Mod yet and needs one let me know and I'll send it
> on.
>
> craig ellison
> craig.ellison2@verizon.net
> silverton, OR
> N205CN
>
>
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| Subject: | Trouble Shooting Turbo Issue |
I'm with ron on this one, If you have checked the electrical side of things
which
you say you have, then i would have a hard look at the exhaust side of
things
as your pressure drop appears to be fairly linear, i would say the turbo is
maxed out
boost wise the whole time which means it either dragging, soot build up in
the exhaust
turbine could drag the turbine enough to not allow it to fully "spool" up,
or you have
a restriction in a pipe somewhere. If you had the turbo off/apart or had to
"FLEX" something
to get it back on after the service, then you may be distorting the housing
enough to slow the
turbo down.
well thats my 2 cents worth for what it's worth
good luck
craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us
Sent: Friday, 28 December 2007 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trouble Shooting Turbo Issue
Hi Paul
As far as limited boost on your 914 goes, first determine if the TCU is
opening the wastegate or if you have a physical problem. Cycle the
wastegate shut and turn off TCU and do a test to see if you can get max
boost, if you can let us know and we can go from there and troubleshoot
TCU. If it will not boost, it is a physical problem. Leak somewhere
between output of turbo and cylinders, (restricted intake????), or turbo
that is not spinning up fast enough due to binding, or problem with
impeller, make sure your wastegate is sealing AND CLOSING PROPERLY AND
FULLY, or could be a restricted exhaust.
Ron P.
1:34 PM
1:34 PM
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| Subject: | Re: Mod 73/Reamer available |
Tom Friedland wrote:
> Hi Craig
>
> As you know I am not yet flying and I have been awaiting a reamer...
> I am sad that you have the bird for sale but since you did the mod
> maybe you have changed your mind? I am thinking of a flight in the
> Spring because we now have a foot or more of snow and it is supposed
> to snow for the next 24 hours... (I still believe in global
> warming.) The snow gives me a little more reason for procrastination...
>
> Off topic. Our local EAA group is building a Breezy in my shop. It
> is going to be fun.
>
> I have been wondering if you would be interested in making a first
> flight in my bird as I am pretty rusty and evidently you have a grass
> strip that sounds like it would be better for me. No big deal to
> trailer it down there.
>
> I will gladly pay for shipping and will send it on after.
>
> If no one else claims it.
>
> I am in deep snow at:
>
> Tom Friedland, 70 Majestic Heights Dr. Ellensburg, WA 98926 509 480 0267
>
> On Dec 27, 2007 6:41 PM, Craig Ellison <craig.ellison2@verizon.net
> <mailto:craig.ellison2@verizon.net>> wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I just finished Mod 73 Undercarriage frame strengthing, wasn't
> much fun and glad it's behind me. I now have a 16.5 mm hand
> reamer that I don't have much use for. If there is anyone out
> there that hasn't accomplished this Mod yet and needs one let me
> know and I'll send it on.
>
> craig ellison
> craig.ellison2@verizon.net <mailto:craig.ellison2@verizon.net>
> silverton, OR
> N205CN
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
>
> I have a reamer_available if anyone wants it, send me a shipping address.
> *
Kevin
> *
>
> *
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Tom,
Please let me know when you are finished w/ Craig's 16.5 mm reamer; I'd
love to use it when it's available. I don't have the Mod 73 parts at
this time, but will order them tomorrow.
My address is: Fred Klein, POB 1089, Eastsound, WA 98245
Thanks,
Fred
On Thursday, Dec 27, 2007, at 19:45 US/Pacific, Tom Friedland wrote:
> Hi Craig
>
> As you know I am not yet flying and I have been awaiting a reamer...
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Hi Ken,Tom,Jeff and Fred,
By the sound of things Tom might be needing it first then Ken ,Jeff and
Fred. Your all welcome. I'll plan on sending it to to Tom first and if
you could send it on to the next. I also have the ACF 50 your welcome
to have but I don't know if I can send by post. Let me know if you
could use it.
craig
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Friedland
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 73
Hi Craig
As you know I am not yet flying and I have been awaiting a reamer...
I am sad that you have the bird for sale but since you did the mod maybe
you have changed your mind? I am thinking of a flight in the Spring
because we now have a foot or more of snow and it is supposed to snow
for the next 24 hours... (I still believe in global warming.) The snow
gives me a little more reason for procrastination...
Off topic. Our local EAA group is building a Breezy in my shop. It
is going to be fun.
I have been wondering if you would be interested in making a first
flight in my bird as I am pretty rusty and evidently you have a grass
strip that sounds like it would be better for me. No big deal to
trailer it down there.
I will gladly pay for shipping and will send it on after.
If no one else claims it.
I am in deep snow at:
Tom Friedland, 70 Majestic Heights Dr. Ellensburg, WA 98926 509 480
0267
On Dec 27, 2007 6:41 PM, Craig Ellison <craig.ellison2@verizon.net>
wrote:
All,
I just finished Mod 73 Undercarriage frame strengthing, wasn't much
fun and glad it's behind me. I now have a 16.5 mm hand reamer that I
don't have much use for. If there is anyone out there that hasn't
accomplished this Mod yet and needs one let me know and I'll send it on.
craig ellison
craig.ellison2@verizon.net
silverton, OR
N205CN
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Hi Tom,
My last post was ment to go to all, sorry for the mix-up.
craig
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Friedland
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 73
Hi Craig
As you know I am not yet flying and I have been awaiting a reamer...
I am sad that you have the bird for sale but since you did the mod maybe
you have changed your mind? I am thinking of a flight in the Spring
because we now have a foot or more of snow and it is supposed to snow
for the next 24 hours... (I still believe in global warming.) The snow
gives me a little more reason for procrastination...
Off topic. Our local EAA group is building a Breezy in my shop. It
is going to be fun.
I have been wondering if you would be interested in making a first
flight in my bird as I am pretty rusty and evidently you have a grass
strip that sounds like it would be better for me. No big deal to
trailer it down there.
I will gladly pay for shipping and will send it on after.
If no one else claims it.
I am in deep snow at:
Tom Friedland, 70 Majestic Heights Dr. Ellensburg, WA 98926 509 480
0267
On Dec 27, 2007 6:41 PM, Craig Ellison <craig.ellison2@verizon.net>
wrote:
All,
I just finished Mod 73 Undercarriage frame strengthing, wasn't much
fun and glad it's behind me. I now have a 16.5 mm hand reamer that I
don't have much use for. If there is anyone out there that hasn't
accomplished this Mod yet and needs one let me know and I'll send it on.
craig ellison
craig.ellison2@verizon.net
silverton, OR
N205CN
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Hi Ken,Jeff, and Fred,
Looks like Tom could use the reamer first so I'll send it along to him.
When he's finished with it he can pass it on to Ken,Jeff and Fred. Looks
like Kevin has one also so you might not need mine.
Good luck gentlemen,
craig
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 73
>
> Tom,
>
> Please let me know when you are finished w/ Craig's 16.5 mm reamer; I'd
> love to use it when it's available. I don't have the Mod 73 parts at this
> time, but will order them tomorrow.
>
> My address is: Fred Klein, POB 1089, Eastsound, WA 98245
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred
>
> On Thursday, Dec 27, 2007, at 19:45 US/Pacific, Tom Friedland wrote:
>
>> Hi Craig
>>
>> As you know I am not yet flying and I have been awaiting a reamer...
>
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