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1. 12:31 AM - Re: Avmap EKP 1V sat nav and Navaid AP 1 Autopilot (r.frost)
2. 02:10 AM - Kit for sale (Miles McCallum)
3. 02:41 AM - Re: Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2004 (Rotax) (rick)
4. 02:45 AM - Re: Kit Number for australian kit (craig bastin)
5. 03:51 AM - Injecting Redux (David.Corbett)
6. 04:27 AM - Re: bonding cockpit module to hull (William Daniell)
7. 08:27 AM - Re: Kit Number for australian kit (ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk)
8. 01:00 PM - Re: bonding cockpit module to hull (ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk)
9. 01:58 PM - Re: copper dipole (Paul Stewart)
10. 03:42 PM - Re: Kit Number for australian kit (Brian Phillips)
11. 03:58 PM - Re: Kit Number for australian kit (craig bastin)
12. 08:49 PM - Re: copper dipole (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
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| Subject: | Re: Avmap EKP 1V sat nav and Navaid AP 1 Autopilot |
ami(at)mcfadyean.freeserv wrote:
> Have you checked that the NMEA strings contain all of the required data?
> The NMEA protocol allows data elements to be missing, so long as the comma
> separators are still present (so that the absence of the data can be
> identified).
>
> So, for example, the cross track error data can be omitted, but the rest of
> the sentence is still useable. But I wouldn't have expected this on an
> aviation set.
>
> Duncan McF.
>
> ---
Hi Duncan,
The Avmap has a check list box that you just tick to ensure that string is included
or excluded. The Dynon strings include the two that Navaid advise need to
be present for their equipment to operate in course mode.
Robert
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Robert
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Regrettably, the relationship with my Europa partner has deteriorated, and I
cannot afford to buy him out and finish the aeroplane.
XS fuselage, 1370 mod, all parts made/ installed, wings rigged, etc, except
top is not bonded on. Includes rigid steel tube (but disassemble-able)
fuselage jig.
Taildragger conversion (structurally complete, stress calculations approved
by PFA/LAA) using trigear main legs.
Foam wings, finished but unfilled. Low drag tips, Pitts type pitot static
(removable) trigear flap fairings. All parts made.
Many parts included: Navaid wing-leveler w/ coupler, all non-gyro
instruments, RMI engine monitor, removable panel faces, capacitance fuel
gauge, Andair tap and gascolator, Goodrich fuel hoses, Singleton firewall
and rudder/tailwheel mod, and much much more.
All mods except the latest wing/tail MPDs incorporated.
Built to an extremely high standard (as Neville Eyre and others will
confirm)
- if you are interested, contact me off-list on milesm@avnet.co.uk or 01460
281129 - location Somerset, UK.
Miles
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| Subject: | Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2004 (Rotax) |
Happy New Year Europaphiles.
I have used the EIS for 4 years also and have nothing but praise for the
unit although I have found the manual somewhat of a challenge.
I found the GRT EIS method of fault warning invaluable when I had a baffle
move in the exhaust silencer partially blocking the gas exit. The EIS
flashed a warning when this happened and we were able to diagnose a weak
mixture on full power causing a sudden rise in EGT. I would use as many
fault indicators as I could in future as it's so easy for the EIS to monitor
them and reliably tell you of faults as soon as they occur. EGT of course
being one of the most immediate indicators of problem.
Rick Morris
G-RIKS 912S Tri
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John & Paddy
Wigney
Sent: 06 January 2008 20:35
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Grand Rapids EIS 2004 (Rotax)
--> <johnwigney@alltel.net>
Hi Mark,
I have been using an EIS 2004 for about 6 years now. I have had no problems.
Re EGT probes, although I fitted mine to the rear exhaust pipes, I never
refer to them and I am not sure if they contribute a lot. Perhaps useful to
troubleshoot a carburetor problem but I have never had that need. I think
you may do just fine without them and it saves some wiring.
I fitted the gasket type CHT probes under two rear cylinder head nuts. I am
not sure why the CHT probes were not supplied to you. GRT's website at
http://www.grtavionics.com/model_2004.htm says they are included. I
connected my EIS coolant temperature wire with a faston type connector to
the Rotax sender on the lower rear of cylinder no. 3. The oil temp sender
has a similar connector.
As I have mentioned before, I recommend GRT's excellent fuel flow and
totaliser option. I also have a low fuel pressure sender on the auxiliary
input - this is intended to give me few seconds warning before the engine
stops if the filter blocks or whatever.
Wishing you many smooth landings.
Cheers, John
N262WF, mono XS, 912S
Mooresville, North Carolina
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From: Martin Tuck <MJKTuck@cs.com> <mailto:MJKTuck@cs.com>
Subject: Europa-List: Grand Rapids EIS 2004 (Rotax) Hi Folks, On the advice
of some of you on this forum, I went with the Grand Rapids EIS for the Rotax
912 as part of my panel upgrade.
A few questions though to those who have already fitted it.
1) Any problems I should look out for. Any gotchas?
2) It came with two EGT probes but nothing to say where they should be
fitted. I assume you drill a hole in the exhaust manifold but where. Is it
wise to drill holes in situ as swarf may end up in the exhaust valves. I've
gone all this time with no EGT indication so I'm inclined not to fit these.
What have others done?
3) It looks like you have to use GRT CHT probes (not supplied, Grrr). I
thought the GRT website said the unit used the Rotax senders or maybe that's
just oil temp and pressure senders?
Any help would be appreciated.
Regards, Martin Tuck Wichita, Kansas
11:46
09:14
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| Subject: | Kit Number for australian kit |
thanks heaps for that, I'll buy you a beer one day when you are in australia
: )
craig
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rowland & Wilma
Carson
Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2008 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Kit Number for australian kit
At 2008-01-06 13:14 +1000 craig bastin wrote:
>Dont know if anyone can help with this, but I bought my kit unstarted from
>Harold Isberg
>(also owned a Mono) The foam core dates are august 2001. Harold couldn't
>help me with the kit
>number
Craig - that was kit 577.
regards
Rowland
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Good morning, Will,
Personal experience confirms what others have said - injection of Redux
worked well for me.
Just back from Tilly.(with latest news of your Dad)
David
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| Subject: | bonding cockpit module to hull |
Bob
Quite right this is exactly what is happening in some places - but not
in
others. I tried injecting but could not make it work. Became seriously
frustrated (know the feeling?)'.
So I ground down one and found that the voids are actually bubbles in
the
redux. So I ground down the rest of the flange and was glad that I did
' a
number of voids. Not I think enough to imperil the structure but enough
to
upset me.
So what I am left with is the rearmost flange ground down to the skin.
I
am going to do I do a staggered 3 ply lay up along the rear flange onto
the
hull.
Any thoughts on this anyone?
Another question is why this happened. If I were gluing in the cockpit
module again
1. I would use =BC bolts at the key places especially at the
firewall
lower bottom
2. I would support the hull in a webbing sling so that the hull
could
conform to the cockpit module (I made a cradle based on the profile of
the
cockpit module) which it must be admitted is roughly what the europa
cradle
suggests
Will
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Laptop JR
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 17:10
Subject: Re: Europa-List: bonding cockpit module to hull
William
could it be that there appears to be no adhesive where the module and
the
fuselage are actually touching, well almost touching? and that where
there
is a gap filled, there is enough to black out any transparency?
That is what I thought happened with mine so long ago.
JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz
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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 4:20 AM
Subject: Europa-List: bonding cockpit module to hull
Can anyone help with this?
I have a number of (what appear to be) voids in the adhesive bonding the
cockpit module to the outer skin especially in the two aft joints '
(the one
at the rear face of the fuel tank and the one aft of that).
I have tried injecting redux but I can=92t seem to make that work=85any
hints?
The option I thought of was to grind the whole flange down to the skin
and
then re-construct the join with a bid +/- 45 lay up.
Any ideas? Anyone resolve the same issue?
Thanks
Will
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| Subject: | Kit Number for australian kit |
Make sure you've imported it or it won't be real beer!
Happy New Year
Bob H G-PTAG
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>----Original Message----
>From: craigb@onthenet.com.au
>Date: 08/01/2008 10:31
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subj: RE: Europa-List: Kit Number for australian kit
>
com.au>
>
>thanks heaps for that, I'll buy you a beer one day when you are in
australia
>: )
>
>craig
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rowland &
Wilma
>Carson
>Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2008 9:12 AM
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Kit Number for australian kit
>
>
<rowil@clara.net>
>
>At 2008-01-06 13:14 +1000 craig bastin wrote:
>
>>Dont know if anyone can help with this, but I bought my kit
unstarted from
>>Harold Isberg
>>(also owned a Mono) The foam core dates are august 2001. Harold
couldn't
>>help me with the kit
>>number
>
>Craig - that was kit 577.
>
>regards
>
>Rowland
>--
>| Rowland Carson LAA #16532 http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/
>| 870 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail <rowil@clara.net>
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>9:14 AM
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| Subject: | bonding cockpit module to hull |
Hi! Will
Sorry to have missed this sissue before now becxause what I have to say is
too late,..... "had you held a strong light behind the two reduxed surfaces
you would have seen the voids to attend to them prior to curing. I'm surpr
ised you can't inject with a liquid redux mix .
If you have removed the flanges you must do a good job with the scuff sandi
ng to do lay ups against.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG Happy New Year!
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From: wdaniell@etb.net.co
Subj: RE: Europa-List: bonding cockpit module to hull
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Quite right this is exactly what is happening in some places - but not in o
thers. I tried injecting but could not make it work. Became seriously fru
strated (know the feeling?)=93.
So I ground down one and found that the voids are actually bubbles in the r
edux. So I ground down the rest of the flange and was glad that I did
=93 a number of voids. Not I think enough to imperil the structure but
enough to upset me.
So what I am left with is the rearmost flange ground down to the skin. I
am going to do I do a staggered 3 ply lay up along the rear flange onto the
hull.
Any thoughts on this anyone?
Another question is why this happened. If I were gluing in the cockpit mod
ule again
1. I would use =C2=BC bolts at the key places especially at the firew
all lower bottom
2. I would support the hull in a webbing sling so that the hull could
conform to the cockpit module (I made a cradle based on the profile of the
cockpit module) which it must be admitted is roughly what the europa cradl
e suggests
Will
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-serv
er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Laptop JR
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 17:10
Subject: Re: Europa-List: bonding cockpit module to hull
William
could it be that there appears to be no adhesive where the module and the f
uselage are actually touching, well almost touching? and that where there i
s a gap filled, there is enough to black out any transparency?
That is what I thought happened with mine so long ago.
JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: William Daniell
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 4:20 AM
Subject: Europa-List: bonding cockpit module to hull
Can anyone help with this?
I have a number of (what appear to be) voids in the adhesive bonding the co
ckpit module to the outer skin especially in the two aft joints =93 (
the one at the rear face of the fuel tank and the one aft of that).
I have tried injecting redux but I can=99t seem to make that work
any hints?
The option I thought of was to grind the whole flange down to the skin and
then re-construct the join with a bid +/- 45 lay up.
Any ideas? Anyone resolve the same issue?
Thanks
Will
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| Subject: | Re: copper dipole |
Ferg / David
Thanks for the responses - I'll try my soldering iron first
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Kit Number for australian kit |
Craig, have you tried Jim McAvoy?
"Jim McAvoy" <jimca@ozemail.com.au>
"craig bastin" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
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Subject
Europa-List: Kit Number for australian kit
Dont know if anyone can help with this, but I bought my kit unstarted from
Harold Isberg
(also owned a Mono) The foam core dates are august 2001. Harold couldn't
help me with the kit
number as so much time had passed (6 years) since he bought this second
kit.
I found some old
archives from 2001 making mention of someone having a list of major part
numbers and kit numbers.
I have concerns about getting my rego without the kit number.
Craig
11:46 AM
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| Subject: | Kit Number for australian kit |
Oh so you want american beer then..... Just kidding
actually we have quite a good range of aussie beers now, including quite a few
boutique brewers
that only do small runs but their stuff is very good and quite varied
craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk
Sent: Wednesday, 9 January 2008 1:23 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Kit Number for australian kit
Make sure you've imported it or it won't be real beer!
Happy New Year
Bob H G-PTAG
do not archive.
>----Original Message----
>From: craigb@onthenet.com.au
>Date: 08/01/2008 10:31
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subj: RE: Europa-List: Kit Number for australian kit
>
com.au>
>
>thanks heaps for that, I'll buy you a beer one day when you are in
australia
>: )
>
>craig
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Rowland &
Wilma
>Carson
>Sent: Tuesday, 8 January 2008 9:12 AM
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Kit Number for australian kit
>
>
<rowil@clara.net>
>
>At 2008-01-06 13:14 +1000 craig bastin wrote:
>
>>Dont know if anyone can help with this, but I bought my kit
unstarted from
>>Harold Isberg
>>(also owned a Mono) The foam core dates are august 2001. Harold
couldn't
>>help me with the kit
>>number
>
>Craig - that was kit 577.
>
>regards
>
>Rowland
>--
>| Rowland Carson LAA #16532 http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/
>| 870 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail <rowil@clara.net>
>
>
>9:14 AM
>
>9:14 AM
>
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| Subject: | Re: copper dipole |
Paul-
FYI Aircraft Spruce has a reel of copper strapping material for $ 19.90. For the
work you may need to go through, it may be easier to buy it. Also, as was
mentioned, the advantage of strapping is that it is a bit more broad band than
wire would be. I assume that the manufacturers do it that way to provide more
error in the event that you do not tune the antenna. If you have a good Standing
Wave bridge and can tune it, as long as you are below 2.5 - 3 to 1 at the
extreme ends of the spectrum and close to flat at the most commonly used frequencies
you will be transmitting on, wire would work just as well as strapping.
Jim Puglise A-283, Punta Gorda, FL
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From: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
>
> Ferg / David
>
>
> Thanks for the responses - I'll try my soldering iron first
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
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<DIV>FYI Aircraft Spruce has a reel of copper strapping material for $ 19.90.
For the work you may need to go through, it may be easier to buy it.
Also, as was mentioned, the advantage of strapping is that it is a bit more
broad band than wire would be. I assume that the manufacturers do it that
way to provide more error in the event that you do not tune the antenna.
If you have a good Standing Wave bridge and can tune it, as long as you are
below 2.5 - 3 to 1 at the extreme ends of the spectrum and close to flat at the
most commonly used frequencies you will be transmitting on, wire would work
just as well as strapping.</DIV>
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<DIV>Jim Puglise A-283, Punta Gorda, FL </DIV>
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