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Sat 01/12/08


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 04:42 AM - Re: Kit for sale (G-IANI)
     2. 05:33 AM - Another kit for sale (mark.jackson@ouce.ox.ac.uk)
     3. 07:54 AM - Rotax 912/914 (Curtis Jaussi)
     4. 08:26 AM - Re: Rotax 912/914 (rlborger)
     5. 08:38 AM - Re: Rotax 912/914 (rlborger)
     6. 10:25 AM - Twinmax carb balancer (Rob Neils)
     7. 01:09 PM - Re: Rotax 912/914 (Simon Smith)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:42:45 AM PST US
    From: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Kit for sale
    Miles As we discussed on the telephone I am interested in the possibility of completing your aircraft. I would like further details and will make a decision, with the Boss (wife) over the next few weeks Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Miles McCallum Sent: 08 January 2008 09:06 Subject: Europa-List: Kit for sale Regrettably, the relationship with my Europa partner has deteriorated, and I cannot afford to buy him out and finish the aeroplane.


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    Time: 05:33:49 AM PST US
    From: "mark.jackson@ouce.ox.ac.uk" <mark.jackson@ouce.ox.ac.uk>
    Subject: Another kit for sale
    Another kit for sale, full details at http://harley.geog.ox.ac.uk/cgi-bin/Europa/show-ad.pl?070403155058=mark.jackson@ouce.ox.ac.uk Cheers, Mark.


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    Time: 07:54:28 AM PST US
    From: "Curtis Jaussi" <cjaussi@gmail.com>
    Subject: Rotax 912/914
    Does anyone understand the real differences between the Rotax 912ul and the 914? As far as I can determine, they are the same engine except for the turbo. The displacement and the pistons seem to be the same. is the 914 beefed up in some way to take the extra strain from the turbo? Has anyone heard of an after market turbo for the 912?


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    Time: 08:26:06 AM PST US
    From: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912/914
    Curtis, The 912 and 914 have different pistons and connecting On Jan 12, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Curtis Jaussi wrote: > Does anyone understand the real differences between the Rotax 912ul > and the 914? As far as I can determine, they are the same engine > except for the turbo. The displacement and the pistons seem to be > the same. is the 914 beefed up in some way to take the extra > strain from the turbo? Has anyone heard of an after market turbo > for the 912? > >


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    Time: 08:38:33 AM PST US
    From: rlborger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912/914
    Curtis & other Europaphiles, Oops, hit the wrong button on that previous transmission. The main difference between the 912 and 914 are different compression ratios due to the different pistons and (I believe) connecting rods. The three engines 912, 912S and 914 all have different compression ratios. Of course, the exhaust systems are quite different due to the presence of the turbo. There are also differences in the lube system to support the special lubrication needs of the turbo. There may be other differences. Good building and great flying, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL (90%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done. Baggage bay in. Flaps & Main Gear complete. Mod 72 complete. Instrument panel complete, except for testing. Rotax 914 installed (for the 3rd time). Airmaster Prop installed. Electrical complete, except for testing. Fuel system complete except for testing. Working in - 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Interior & Finishing. Airmaster arrived 29 Sep 05. Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. E04 interior kit has arrived and is being installed. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Jan 12, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Curtis Jaussi wrote: > Does anyone understand the real differences between the Rotax 912ul > and the 914? As far as I can determine, they are the same engine > except for the turbo. The displacement and the pistons seem to be > the same. is the 914 beefed up in some way to take the extra > strain from the turbo? Has anyone heard of an after market turbo > for the 912?


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    Time: 10:25:50 AM PST US
    From: "Rob Neils" <rob@Neils.US>
    Subject: Twinmax carb balancer
    The Twinmax carb balancer can be bought for $87.95 at http://www.ridenow.com/product/detail/TWINMAX.aspx Do I need to buy the 5 or 6 mm adapter for the Rotax 914?


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    Time: 01:09:34 PM PST US
    From: Simon Smith <yxh56@ukgateway.net>
    Subject: Re: Rotax 912/914
    Not Correct! From the Rotax aircraft website at www.rotax-aircraft-engines.com Both the 912 and the 914 are 1211cc and 9:1 ratio. The 912S is different at 1352cc and 10.5:1 All three use the same crankshaft and connecting rods (they are a single unit and cannot be separated) p/n 888164. The 912 and 914 used 79.5mm dia piston p/n 996549 and the 912S uses 84mm p/n 88838. there is also a difference in the piston pins and rings. Some earlier 912 and 914 engines use crank p/n 996583. cheers Simon On 12 Jan 2008, at 16:25, rlborger wrote: > Curtis & other Europaphiles, > > Oops, hit the wrong button on that previous transmission. > > The main difference between the 912 and 914 are different > compression ratios due to the different pistons and (I believe) > connecting rods. The three engines 912, 912S and 914 all have > different compression ratios. > > Of course, the exhaust systems are quite different due to the > presence of the turbo. > > There are also differences in the lube system to support the special > lubrication needs of the turbo. > > There may be other differences. > > Good building and great flying, > Bob Borger > Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S > http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL > (90%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch > system in, landing gear frame in, rudder system in, outrigger mod > in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie > bar in, flap drive in, Mod 70 done. Baggage bay in. Flaps & Main > Gear complete. Mod 72 complete. Instrument panel complete, except > for testing. Rotax 914 installed (for the 3rd time). Airmaster > Prop installed. Electrical complete, except for testing. Fuel > system complete except for testing. Working in - 32 Tail, 34 Door > Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Interior & Finishing. Airmaster arrived 29 > Sep 05. Seat arrived from Oregon Aero. E04 interior kit has > arrived and is being installed. > 3705 Lynchburg Dr. > Corinth, TX 76208 > Home: 940-497-2123 > Cel: 817-992-1117 > On Jan 12, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Curtis Jaussi wrote: > >> Does anyone understand the real differences between the Rotax 912ul >> and the 914? As far as I can determine, they are the same engine >> except for the turbo. The displacement and the pistons seem to be >> the same. is the 914 beefed up in some way to take the extra >> strain from the turbo? Has anyone heard of an after market turbo >> for the 912? > >




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