Europa-List Digest Archive

Mon 03/03/08


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 12:15 AM - Re: Soft Start (Pete Lawless)
     2. 12:59 AM - Re: Soft Start (Mark Burton)
     3. 09:37 AM - mods (danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk)
     4. 10:46 AM - Re : Locking Spade Connectors (John & Paddy Wigney)
     5. 11:33 AM - Re: mods (Brian Davies)
     6. 12:59 PM - Re: Motor glider first flight (Terry Seaver (terrys))
     7. 08:08 PM - Re: Motor glider first flight (Fred Klein)
     8. 10:11 PM - Re: Motor glider first flight (Terry Seaver (terrys))
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:15:14 AM PST US
    From: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
    Subject: Soft Start
    Paul The unit is made by Mark Burton, who also does constant speed controls, prop balancers and a talking ASI to name but a few. His company web site is www.smartavionics.com/ Regards Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul McAllister Sent: 02 March 2008 23:12 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Soft Start <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com> Folks, One more question. I don't really have a starting problem, but once in a great while mine will kick back. Does the Soft start product fix this ? Thanks, Paul -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.


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    Time: 12:59:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Soft Start
    From: "Mark Burton" <markb@ordern.com>
    Hi Folks, Yes, it's true. I do manufacture the Soft Start Module (SSM). Although I designed/developed/tested/manufacture the device, it's not my idea. Conrad told me how it should operate and I "made it so". So it's really a joint effort. Conrad might be a grease monkey but he's a damn clever one! No, I can't sell them to individuals. All the units go straight to Conrad. The whole purpose of the SSM is to stop the engine kicking back on startup. The problem stems from the fact that the Rotax ignition modules advance the ignition rather too readily. The SSM keeps the ignition retarded while the starter is energised (and for a little while afterwards). So the SSM is simply making up for the bug in the Rotax modules. You may wonder why Rotax don't fix the ignition modules and I think the answer to that is rooted in the fact that it's a certified engine. Once certified, it's set in stone, nothing can be changed (even if it has bugs). What's interesting is that not all engines kick back. Some do, some don't. Cheers, Mark PS - my new propeller balancer (the imaginatively named PB-2) has finally been released. It's only about 12 months late, lots of other stuff (like the SSM) got in the way Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=167363#167363


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    Time: 09:37:23 AM PST US
    From: "danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk" <danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk>
    Subject: mods
    Hi all, I've fitted a J.P.I FS450 fuel computer, and about to apply for a mod. On the application form it states /"does this mod appear on any similar aircraft. if yes which one"/ So obviously my question is has any one in the uk fitted this mod and may I put down your registration. Cheers Danny G-c.e.r.i


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    Time: 10:46:21 AM PST US
    From: John & Paddy Wigney <johnwigney@alltel.net>
    Subject: Re : Locking Spade Connectors
    Hi Martin, Lockwood Aviation Supply will stock those items. The Maintenance Manager, Kerry Younck, at 863-655-6229 should be able to help you out with part numbers. As I am sure you know, it is important that the retaining barbs on the Faston connectors are bent out so that you get full locking engagement in the housing. On one occasion, a generator wire on my engine vibrated loose due to this problem. Cheers, John N262WF, mono XS, 912S Mooresville, North Carolina ORIGINAL MESSAGE From: MJKTuck@cs.com Subject: Europa-List: Locking Spade Connectors Hi Folks, I'm rewiring my panel a little to make it easier to pull for maintenance. I'm looking for the part number or a source for those spade connectors that slide onto the spades of the Rotax (Ducati) regulator. I'm specifically looking for the ones that lock into the plastic housing (which holds all five or six connectors and then locks itself onto the regulator). I can find regular 1/4 in spade connectors but they don't lock into the housing and thus are very difficult to push on as the contacts are up inside the regulator some. Any ideas would be appreciated. Regards, Martin Tuck Europa N152MT Wichita, Kansas


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    Time: 11:33:35 AM PST US
    From: "Brian Davies" <bdavies@dircon.co.uk>
    Subject: mods
    Danny, I have the mod approved. The mod number is 11944 on Europa XS G-DDBD. Andy Draper has asked the club to produce a standard mod for this but that will take a bit of time. Brian Davies _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk Sent: 03 March 2008 17:34 Subject: Europa-List: mods Hi all, I've fitted a J.P.I FS450 fuel computer, and about to apply for a mod. On the application form it states "does this mod appear on any similar aircraft. if yes which one" So obviously my question is has any one in the uk fitted this mod and may I put down your registration. Cheers Danny G-c.e.r.i "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List"http://www.matronics.com/Nav igator?Europa-List "http://www.matronics.com/contribution"http://www.matronics.com/contribution 15:59 15:59


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    Time: 12:59:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Motor glider first flight
    From: "Terry Seaver (terrys)" <terrys@cisco.com>
    Hi Kevin, Sorry for the confusion, I should have mentioned that the sink numbers were with the engine at idle, with an Airmaster prop. The sink rate can be expected to be better with the engine off and prop feathered, which we haven't had the opportunity to do yet. Our Europa motorglider has noticeably greater sink at engine idle than the Katana Extreme we trained on last fall. The Katana has a 914 with a two bladed prop, ours is a 912S with three bladed prop. It may be the three bladed prop that makes the biggest difference between the two planes (although the higher compression 912S may also contribute to the difference). When we changed over from the two bladed Whirlwind to the three bladed Airmaster, the only noticeable change in performance between the two was the braking effect at engine idle, with the Airmaster providing greater braking. We will get some engine off/prop feathered data as soon as we get a weekend with suitable weather. Regards, Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Klinefelter Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 4:52 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Motor glider first flight Terry & Dave, Congratulations! I imagine that your sink rate tests were with the engine off and the prop feathered? Did the CG change with the long wings installed? Best LD will be found near the aft limit. Have you sealed the gaps in the wing root? Glad to hear you guys are gliding... Kevin


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    Time: 08:08:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Motor glider first flight
    From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    On Monday, Mar 3, 2008, at 12:55 US/Pacific, Terry Seaver (terrys) wrote: > Our Europa motorglider has noticeably greater sink at engine idle than > the Katana Extreme we > trained on last fall. Terry, If this isn't too dumb a question... but were you training for a glider rating in a powered sailplane or were you training for a powered sailplane rating (which I didn't think existed)? Fred -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.


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    Time: 10:11:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Motor glider first flight
    From: "Terry Seaver (terrys)" <terrys@cisco.com>
    Hi Fred, I got a rating for glider, self launched, which is different from glider, towed. -Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Fred Klein Sent: Mon 3/3/2008 8:03 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Motor glider first flight On Monday, Mar 3, 2008, at 12:55 US/Pacific, Terry Seaver (terrys) wrote: > Our Europa motorglider has noticeably greater sink at engine idle than > the Katana Extreme we > trained on last fall. Terry, If this isn't too dumb a question... but were you training for a glider rating in a powered sailplane or were you training for a powered sailplane rating (which I didn't think existed)? Fred




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