---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/10/08: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:38 AM - High temp epoxy (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com) 2. 07:08 AM - FW: New Telephone Greeting !!! (Herve) 3. 08:44 AM - Airspeed Sensor Switch (europaman) 4. 09:34 AM - Re: Airspeed Sensor Switch (Karl Heindl) 5. 11:18 AM - Re: Airspeed Sensor Switch (Jan de Jong) 6. 12:06 PM - Re: Airspeed Sensor Switch (William Harrison) 7. 04:47 PM - Re: Re: High temperature fiberglass (Duncan & Ami McFadyean) 8. 07:26 PM - Re: Stall warner () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:38:15 AM PST US From: TELEDYNMCS@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: High temp epoxy Greetings team, FWIW, my Ximango has shrouds on the cylinder barrels. Air is fed to them by a single, 3" opening at the front of the cowl that is loosely fit into 4" SCAT tubing connected to the shrouds. For those who've never seen one of these Ximango's up close, the cowls are fitted much more tightly than any other 9XX I've ever seen. The installed shrouds, whether done by Aeromot or Rotax, (I'm not sure which) are tan in color and they smell like plain old polyester resin when they get warm. I flew the Ximango a bunch last summer, i.e., over 130 hours, when our ambient temps were touching 105F every day and the engine always ran cool. Hope it helps! Regards, John Lawton Whitwell, TN (TN89) N245E - Flying **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:08:20 AM PST US From: Herve Subject: Europa-List: FW: New Telephone Greeting !!! >Subject: FW: New Telephone Greeting !!! >Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:01:40 -0000 >X-MS-Has-Attach: yes >X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: >Thread-Topic: New Telephone Greeting !!! >thread-index: AciAa6uZtl5JHwCKQTer/vdPKih/JAAAbiSQAIf8dCA >From: "Ann McGrory" >To: "Herve" >X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.5.518 [269.21.7/1322] > > >Ann McGrory >Contracts Admin >Solarsoft Business Systems >Tel : 01386 561393 >www.solarsoft.com > > >---------- >From: Jane Williams >Sent: 07 March 2008 16:08 >To: Linda Champion; Ann McGrory; Lorraine Ward; Mark Farrington >Subject: FW: New Telephone Greeting !!! > > >regards > >Jane Williams >Contracts Manager >Solarsoft Business Systems >Phone: 08451 302 445 >www.solarsoft.com > > >New Telephone Greeting !!! > > >[] > > > New Telephone Greeting: >Wouldn't it be amazing, if this caught on, all over the country...? > >'GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO THE UNITED KINGDOM' > >'Press '1' if you speak English.' >'Press ''2'' to disconnect until you can > >If you agree......keep it going > > >[] > > >06/03/2008 18:58 > > >---------- >The contents of this e-mail and any attachments are intended for the >named addressee only and may be confidential. Unless you are the >named addressee or authorised to receive the e-mail of the named >addressee you may not disclose, use or copy the contents of the >e-mail. If you received the e-mail in error, please contact the >sender immediately and then delete the e-mail. Solarsoft Business >Systems does not accept responsibility for this message and any >views or opinions contained in this e-mail are solely those of the >author unless expressly stated otherwise. > > >Checked by AVG. >3/9/2008 12:17 PM ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:44:54 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Airspeed Sensor Switch From: "europaman" Hi All, Does anyone have an idea what 60 knots equates to in PSI? I'm trying to buy an air switch that closes below a certain airspeed that is adjustable for different air speeds. I read about one on the Aeroelectric list but it apparently is for driving another electronic circuit. I want to just turn off a 12 volt circuit above a given airspeed for a gear warning system. Thanks. Troy Maynor Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:34:56 AM PST US From: Karl Heindl Subject: RE: Europa-List: Airspeed Sensor Switch I have a Hobbs meter connected to an adjustable low pressure switch for rec ording actual flight time. It happens to be the same switch as the one used by the Europa stall warner kit, also supplied by RS Components. I can dig up the order number if you are interested. Karl
> Subject: Europa-List: Airspeed Sensor Switch> Fro m: wingnut54@charter.net> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:41:32 +0200> To: europa nut54@charter.net>> > Hi All,> Does anyone have an idea what 60 knots equat es to in PSI? I'm trying to buy an air switch that closes below a certain a irspeed that is adjustable for different air speeds. I read about one on th e Aeroelectric list but it apparently is for driving another electronic cir cuit. I want to just turn off a 12 volt circuit above a given airspeed for a gear warning system. > Thanks. > Troy Maynor> > > > > > > Visit - www.Eur -======================== ========> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:18:54 AM PST US From: Jan de Jong Subject: Re: Europa-List: Airspeed Sensor Switch I have a program output with calculated airspeed in mm/s (column 3) vs pitot-static pressure in Pa (column 2). I hope I'm attaching it. You can find "pressure conversion" to psi or "H2O and "velocity conversion" using Google. Hope this is of use. Regards, Jan de Jong europaman wrote: > > Hi All, > Does anyone have an idea what 60 knots equates to in PSI? I'm trying to buy an air switch that closes below a certain airspeed that is adjustable for different air speeds. I read about one on the Aeroelectric list but it apparently is for driving another electronic circuit. I want to just turn off a 12 volt circuit above a given airspeed for a gear warning system. > Thanks. > Troy Maynor > indicated airspeed, middle regime omit every second from lookup table (gives max. deltas as shown) d-pressure ind-airspeed interpolated delta d_prev max-res Pa mm/s mm/s mm/s mm/s mm/s 0 512 28886 28829 -57 1862 29 576 30635 30587 -48 1749 27 1 640 32289 32248 -41 1654 25 704 33861 33825 -36 1572 24 2 768 35362 35331 -31 1501 23 832 36802 36774 -28 1440 22 3 896 38187 38162 -25 1385 21 960 39523 39501 -22 1336 20 4 1024 40815 40794 -21 1292 20 1088 42066 42048 -18 1251 19 5 1152 43281 43264 -17 1215 18 1216 44462 44446 -16 1181 18 6 1280 45612 45597 -15 1150 17 1344 46733 46719 -14 1121 17 7 1408 47827 47815 -12 1094 17 1472 48897 48885 -12 1070 16 8 1536 49943 49932 -11 1046 16 1600 50967 50957 -10 1024 16 9 1664 51971 51961 -10 1004 15 1728 52955 52945 -10 984 15 10 1792 53920 53912 -8 965 15 1856 54869 54860 -9 949 14 11 1920 55801 55793 -8 932 14 1984 56717 56709 -8 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I think its right but don't bet your life on it until you've got a second opinion. Willie Harrison G-BZNY (grounded for complete rewire and panel refit and a few other upgrades) On 10 Mar 2008, at 16:31, Karl Heindl wrote: > > I have a Hobbs meter connected to an adjustable low pressure switch > for recording actual flight time. > It happens to be the same switch as the one used by the Europa > stall warner kit, also supplied by RS Components. I can dig up the > order number if you are interested. > > Karl > > >
> > > Subject: Europa-List: Airspeed Sensor Switch > > From: wingnut54@charter.net > > Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:41:32 +0200 > > To: europa-list@matronics.com > > > > > > > Hi All, > > Does anyone have an idea what 60 knots equates to in PSI? I'm > trying to buy an air switch that closes below a certain airspeed > that is adjustable for different air speeds. I read about one on > the Aeroelectric list but it apparently is for driving another > electronic circuit. I want to just turn off a 12 volt circuit above > a given airspeed for a gear warning system. > > Thanks. > > Troy Maynor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org > > > > > > > > > &=================== > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:47:36 PM PST US From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: High temperature fiberglass Can't think who would do such a dastardly thing, robbing Rotax of income! D. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert C Harrison" Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:22 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: High temperature fiberglass > > > Hi! Jeff/all > These items are called "Barrel hoods" and are available as a Rotax > Option in the region of GBP 200.! > No doubt the plug around which to make these was a very demanding > process and requires a tight dimensional tolerance. > However with the benefit of one it would be easy to make a "splash" and > copy it. > Regards > Bob Harrison. G-PTAG > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JEFF > ROBERTS > Sent: 09 March 2008 21:38 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: High temperature fiberglass > > > Hello All, > I too have been contemplating making these plenums as I'm still > struggling with keeping the back cylinder temps down. Today with some > engine static test I had the back # 3 cylinder temp at 260 to 265 F. > Not a problem at the current 60 F outside but I know the hot Florida > temps at Sun-N-Fun could again push the limit for me. Last year during > climb out there, and during our Tennessee heat wave they were a > problem. Lower climbs we're necessary. After many attempts trying every > suggestion talked about on this forum and elsewhere. My back CHT's are > still too high and when it's cold they are too un even from the fronts > as well. > My friend Steve Wright of the Stagger EZ fame told me that a plenum > would be the only way to get the heads running at an even and at cooler > temperatures. He made his with the RTV mentioned below. Unless I have > any other suggestions it looks like the plenum may be the way to go. > Can these be bought or is there anyone out there that has discarded > there's. If not I'll be making some as well. > Your thought are very welcome here. > > Regards, > Jeff R. > A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 105 hours and climbing slowly. > > > On Mar 9, 2008, at 11:56 AM, D Wysong wrote: > >> >>> Anyhow, I am curious about what type of fiberglass cloth and resin >>> system they use that could withstand the temperatures under the >>> cowling. Does anyone have any idea ? >> >> Hello Paul, >> >> Standard E-glass BID and EZ Poxy have been successfully used to build >> cooling plenums for pushers/canards (Long EZ, Varieze, etc.). Google >> "downdraft cooling eze" for some details. You'll need to post cure >> the plenums in order to elevate the temps at which the resin goes >> "soft", so any resin system that benefits from a post cure should >> suffice. >> >> Folks have also impregnated 2 or 3 plies of BID cloth directly with >> RTV to make their plenums. Sounds strange and messy, but it works. >> Put down a piece of plastic drop cloth, add 1 ply of BID (cut to >> shape), squirt on some RTV, add another piece of drop cloth, and use a >> rolling pin to squish the RTV through the BID. Build it up to 3 plies >> and, before it cures, pull off one side of drop cloth and stick the >> exposed RTV directly onto your cylinder fins and mold the 3-ply sheet >> to shape. >> >> D >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Checked by AVG. > 08/03/2008 10:14 > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:40 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Stall warner From: Cell phone or pager mini electric motor with offset weight in stick?? 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