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1. 01:58 AM - Re: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System (Pete Lawless)
2. 02:57 AM - Re: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System (Duncan & Ami McFadyean)
3. 05:57 AM - Re: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System (David Joyce)
4. 06:00 AM - Re: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System (Alan Burrows)
5. 06:21 AM - Re: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System (Alan Burrows)
6. 07:08 AM - Convention Gear Europa (Paul McAllister)
7. 08:08 AM - Re: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System (Pete Lawless)
8. 08:51 AM - Re: Convention Gear Europa (G-IANI)
9. 10:07 AM - Re: The trials of fitting (ALAN YERLY)
10. 11:22 AM - Re: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System (Ian Seager)
11. 11:25 AM - Re: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System (Duncan & Ami McFadyean)
12. 11:54 AM - Re: Convention Gear Europa (JEFF ROBERTS)
13. 11:54 AM - Re: Convention Gear Europa (Duncan & Ami McFadyean)
14. 12:21 PM - Re: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System (Pete Lawless)
15. 01:19 PM - Re: The trials of fitting (Fred Klein)
16. 04:24 PM - Re: English language certificates - UK (Tony Crowe)
17. 04:31 PM - Trials of Fitting (doors) (Graham Higgins)
18. 05:01 PM - Re: Trials of Fitting (doors) (Graham Singleton)
19. 09:54 PM - Re: Trials of Fitting (doors) (raggi6771)
20. 10:06 PM - Re: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System (raggi6771)
21. 11:36 PM - 11 Years 10 Months (p-a.austin)
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Subject: | UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System |
Alan
Thanks for this one it will save me a lot of messing about with faxes if it
works.
Regards
Pete
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Burrows
Sent: 15 March 2008 01:26
Subject: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
I KNOW THIS WONT APPEAL TO EVERYONE, BUT IT'S WORTH NOTING ANYWAY.
This has just been announced. Apparently NATS have been working on it for
some time. It might even be as good as the French OLIVIA system, or the
Austrian system
https://ts1.flightplanningonline.co.uk/
ALAN
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Subject: | Re: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System |
14 Hantone Hill<<...if it works...>>
Not many that have had much success with it thus far. See:
http://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=42112
Probably designed by an IT person rather than a user!
Duncan Mcf
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From: Pete Lawless
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
Alan
Thanks for this one it will save me a lot of messing about with faxes
if it works.
Regards
Pete
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Burrows
Sent: 15 March 2008 01:26
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
I KNOW THIS WONT APPEAL TO EVERYONE, BUT IT'S WORTH NOTING ANYWAY.
This has just been announced. Apparently NATS have been working on it
for some time. It might even be as good as the French OLIVIA system, or
the Austrian system
https://ts1.flightplanningonline.co.uk/
ALAN
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Subject: | Re: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System |
Alan, A comparison of the ease with which one can get Notams from the French
SIA and the horribly tortuous business of getting them from the CAA, doesn't
fill me with confidence, and an initial attempt to log in producing a file
the computer couldn't read hasn't helped!
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 1:25 AM
Subject: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
>
>
> I KNOW THIS WONT APPEAL TO EVERYONE, BUT IT'S WORTH NOTING ANYWAY.
>
>
> This has just been announced. Apparently NATS have been working on it for
> some time. It might even be as good as the French OLIVIA system, or the
> Austrian system
>
>
> https://ts1.flightplanningonline.co.uk/
>
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Subject: | UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System |
Duncan
Surely you are not inferring any lack of faith in our wonderful UK aviation
authorities are you ;-)
Alan
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McFadyean
Sent: 01 March 2008 10:54
Subject: Re: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
<<...if it works...>>
Not many that have had much success with it thus far. See:
http://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=42112
Probably designed by an IT person rather than a user!
Duncan Mcf
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From: Pete Lawless <mailto:pete@lawless.info>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
Alan
Thanks for this one it will save me a lot of messing about with faxes if it
works.
Regards
Pete
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Burrows
Sent: 15 March 2008 01:26
Subject: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
I KNOW THIS WONT APPEAL TO EVERYONE, BUT IT'S WORTH NOTING ANYWAY.
This has just been announced. Apparently NATS have been working on it for
some time. It might even be as good as the French OLIVIA system, or the
Austrian system
https://ts1.flightplanningonline.co.uk/
ALAN
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Subject: | UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System |
Hey don't shoot the messenger :-)
Alan
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce
Sent: 15 March 2008 12:53
Subject: Re: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
Alan, A comparison of the ease with which one can get Notams from the French
SIA and the horribly tortuous business of getting them from the CAA, doesn't
fill me with confidence, and an initial attempt to log in producing a file
the computer couldn't read hasn't helped!
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 1:25 AM
Subject: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
>
>
> I KNOW THIS WONT APPEAL TO EVERYONE, BUT IT'S WORTH NOTING ANYWAY.
>
>
> This has just been announced. Apparently NATS have been working on it for
> some time. It might even be as good as the French OLIVIA system, or the
> Austrian system
>
>
> https://ts1.flightplanningonline.co.uk/
>
>
> ALAN
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Subject: | Convention Gear Europa |
Hi all,
Well at last my conventional gear kit is ready to be shipped. It was
my intention to fit this over the winter, so I guess it becomes next
winters project.
In the mean time I am going to start accumulating parts, photographs
etc. in preparation. I am looking for some experience and advice
about brakes. I have tracked down finger brakes used for dune
buggies. Does anyone know if they are similar as to what is used in
the Trig gear ? See:
http://www.mooreparts.com/store/product/2257/CNC452SB-34/
They are available in two bore sizes, 5/8 and 3/4. What bore sizes
are used in the Europa ? Also, what type of brake fluid is used ?
I have taken delivery of a jack screw drive for my flaps, could
someone point me towards the trigear install pages that detail out how
this is fitted.
Thanks, Paul
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Subject: | UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System |
At least they are responding to questions on a Saturday afternoon. However
I am not hopeful of the outcome - it seems to require you to hold a UK
licence to participate. Echoes of the GPS Approach trials?
Pete
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce
Sent: 15 March 2008 12:53
Subject: Re: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
Alan, A comparison of the ease with which one can get Notams from the French
SIA and the horribly tortuous business of getting them from the CAA, doesn't
fill me with confidence, and an initial attempt to log in producing a file
the computer couldn't read hasn't helped!
Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 1:25 AM
Subject: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
>
>
> I KNOW THIS WONT APPEAL TO EVERYONE, BUT IT'S WORTH NOTING ANYWAY.
>
>
> This has just been announced. Apparently NATS have been working on it for
> some time. It might even be as good as the French OLIVIA system, or the
> Austrian system
>
>
> https://ts1.flightplanningonline.co.uk/
>
>
> ALAN
>
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Subject: | Convention Gear Europa |
Paul
The finger brakes used in the original Mod 65 are made by Jamar. They
are 3/4 bore. They are similar those you have found. Those of us who
used the Jamar cylinder had lots of problems.
Mod 65 is now supplied with Matco master cylinders (MC4) which are much
better.
If you want more detail e-mail me off list.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours
Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com
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Subject: | Re: The trials of fitting |
Trials of fitting, in a word is craftsmanship.
Unless you have built cabinets with curved doors for a living, fitting
the Europa doors or an any aircraft canopy is not an intuitive task.
Visualizing the hinge position, alignment and clearances are a learned
craft.
I do a set of doors in 26 hours flat. But I have done many sets, and
that does not include the time to ensure initial fit. I always plan 40
hours for doors. That's a solid week.
Here is a technique I use, to fill in the gaps of that famous line
"offer the part up to the aircraft":
Start by putting the door in the rebate. If the door needs to be heated
slightly and re-curved to fit the shape, do it slowly and carefully.
Sometimes I heat a door to shape, put a strap around the door flexing
it beyond where it needs to be and allow to cool and refit until it
flits flawlessly. It takes time, like steaming a wood door.
Once the door fits the rebate snug, I take a 36 inch long aluminum
yardstick or equivalent and draw a line across the top of the fuselage
aligned where the hinge line edges are in the fuselage rebate. This
line will then be transcribed down across the side of the rebate and
will allow hinge initial placement. The pin is just about on the line
on the fuselage rebate for the tang. I like the pin to be slightly
inboard.
Then set the door in the rebate and extend the line along the door tang.
Transcribe the line down to the bottom of the tang slot in the rebate
and see how the hinge will align.
Grab some clay and put the hinges on the fuselage rebate. Squeeze the
door down, lift off and align the hinge on your marks. Put a drop or
two of super glue/or 5 minute epoxy on the hinge side facing the door
and shoot accelerator on the tang and replace the door. Clamp in place
and allow the glue to set up. The hinge should be aligned.
Pick up the door, and place it vertically in the rebate, allowing 36
inches of opening for a start. Trim the tang until the hinge will fit
back on the clay level just set. Close the door mark and trim until the
gap (almost 3/8 inch between the tang and fuselage) is pleasing to the
eye.
Replace the door and check hinge alignment on the tang. Re-accomplish
until all looks right. Use the straight edge again, bending it as
necessary to the contour to ensure the hinge pins are aligned with one
another on the door... Make any spacers from metal wood or glue and
re-tack with glue until the door opens and closes cleanly, then drill.
Note that because of the top fuselage curvature, the top gap must be
made wider to clear the arc when it opens. At least 1/4 inch is
necessary in some cases (account for filler and paint)...
Now fit the hardware and continue as the book calls for. Once the
hardware is in, trim the door to allow a 1/8 inch gap all around the
three remaining sides. Figure your top gap to allow 3/32 clearance as
the door is hinged up on the top apex to allow for filler and paint.
Many of you will use the Europa supplied door strut kits. Again, this
will stiffen the door. That too must be bent and adjusted until the
curvature of the door is unaffected. I have a jig that aligns the
struts and all to get my opening and support placement correct, and no
it is not for loaning out.
If the door doesn't fit well without the glass, it really fits bad once
the glass is in. Take your time.
It's an airplane. The canopy/doors typically takes a month to build to
perfection for the average guy. It doesn't matter if it is an RV,
Zenith, Europa, Glassair, or Jabiru. Everyone will see the fit of the
cowl and canopy/doors. If you don't trial fit by putting it on and
taking it off at least eight times, you are probably screwing up and it
won't look good.
I have consulted with the folks at Liberty who have the same problems on
fit and finish of the doors, it all comes down to craftsmanship. They
know it takes time.
Craftsmanship is what separates us from the other guys who have
airplanes that look like Slot A, joins Tab B then rivet in place spam
cans.
That's the beauty of building your own aircraft, it is a reflection of
your learned craft.
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations
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From: Robert Borger<mailto:rlborger@mac.com>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: The trials of fitting
<rlborger@mac.com<mailto:rlborger@mac.com>>
Gents,
Days? How 'bout weeks and months on some simple one line tasks.
But, don't get discouraged. It will be done and flying one day.
Right now, it's jJust like eating an elephant. One bite at a time.
See Y'all in Oshkosh if I can just get over this flu and back to work.
Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL<http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL>
(90%) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch
system in, landing gear complete, rudder system in with Singleton Mod,
outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing
incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, baggage bay in. Fuel system
complete. Rotax and Airmaster installed. Mods 62, 66, 70 & 72 done.
Completed the instrument panel install. Europa interior kit being
installed. Installed windows. Working in - 25 Electrical, 28 Flaps,
30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Finishing.
Mostly finishing these days.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Mar 14, 2008, at 18:50, craig bastin wrote:
<craigb@onthenet.com.au<mailto:craigb@onthenet.com.au>
> >
>
> I hear you fred, some of the jobs the manual glosses over in one
> sentence I
> have spent a couple of days fine tuning to get
> to an acceptable level before glassing in / attaching etc. Mind you
> I have
> also seen some much faster easier ways to do
> some of the jobs to get the same result in the end instead of
> following the
> build manual to the letter.
>
> craig
>
> Do not archive
>
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tronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fred
Klein
> Sent: Saturday, 15 March 2008 9:24 AM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: The trials of fitting
>
>
<fklein@orcasonline.com<mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com>>
>
> Though I place myself midway within the range of builders' sense of
> precision in their respective aircraft, I CANNOT BELIEVE the friggin
> time I've spent (and continue to spend) in the process of fitting
the
> canopy doors, the hinges, rebates, and shoot bolts to achieve a
modest
> fit.
>
> The manual includes an innocuous statement to the effect of "trial
fit
> until you're happy"...I've lost count of the trial fits...its been
> indeed a trial...and I've had a number of fits...
>
> Foolish me...thinkin this part of the build would be a quick piece
of
> cake...
>
> Fred
> A194
>
> ...persevering...
>
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Subject: | Re: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System |
As far as I understand it from talking to people at NATS you need a UK
address, not necessarily a UK licence, an FAA or I guess any other
verifiable licence will do.
Ian
On 15 Mar 2008, at 15:03, Pete Lawless wrote:
>
> At least they are responding to questions on a Saturday afternoon.
> However
> I am not hopeful of the outcome - it seems to require you to hold a UK
> licence to participate. Echoes of the GPS Approach trials?
>
> Pete
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
> Joyce
> Sent: 15 March 2008 12:53
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
>
> >
>
> Alan, A comparison of the ease with which one can get Notams from
> the French
> SIA and the horribly tortuous business of getting them from the CAA,
> doesn't
> fill me with confidence, and an initial attempt to log in producing
> a file
> the computer couldn't read hasn't helped!
> Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 1:25 AM
> Subject: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
>
>
>>
>>
>> I KNOW THIS WONT APPEAL TO EVERYONE, BUT IT'S WORTH NOTING ANYWAY.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This has just been announced. Apparently NATS have been working on
>> it for
>> some time. It might even be as good as the French OLIVIA system, or
>> the
>> Austrian system
>>
>>
>>
>> https://ts1.flightplanningonline.co.uk/
>>
>>
>>
>> ALAN
>>
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Subject: | Re: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System |
14 Hantone HillI should dare.
But last time that the CAA copied a system that worked well in France we
were left with something very user unfriendly (Notams). Of course, there
was then a lot of effort put in to a charm-offensive to tell us how good
it was (or by implication how stupid we were), rather than immediate
effort applied to making it better.
That said, there is a new Notam system about to be trialled next week.
http://mrc0001.users.btopenworld.com/docs/Test_Invitation.pdf
We'll see!
Duncan McF
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----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Burrows
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 12:56 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
Duncan
Surely you are not inferring any lack of faith in our wonderful UK
aviation authorities are you ;-)
Alan
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Duncan &
Ami McFadyean
Sent: 01 March 2008 10:54
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
<<...if it works...>>
Not many that have had much success with it thus far. See:
http://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=42112
Probably designed by an IT person rather than a user!
Duncan Mcf
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----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Lawless
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
Alan
Thanks for this one it will save me a lot of messing about with
faxes if it works.
Regards
Pete
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Burrows
Sent: 15 March 2008 01:26
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
I KNOW THIS WONT APPEAL TO EVERYONE, BUT IT'S WORTH NOTING ANYWAY.
This has just been announced. Apparently NATS have been working on
it for some time. It might even be as good as the French OLIVIA system,
or the Austrian system
https://ts1.flightplanningonline.co.uk/
ALAN
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Subject: | Re: Convention Gear Europa |
Paul,
Paul,
I stuck with the original cylinders. They just needed cleaned out and
the o rings changed. Plus the side bleed ports leaked but some gasket
seal on the threads fixed that. The Jarmar ones your looking at appear
to be different but of better quality. I've heard good things from
others that have used them. I believe they are like the original that
came with the kit in that they use dot 5 fluid. I found it at Advanced
Auto Parts.
Hoe this helps.
Regards,
Jeff R.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 106 hours and climbing slowly and still
fussing with cooling.
On Mar 15, 2008, at 8:02 AM, Paul McAllister wrote:
> <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Well at last my conventional gear kit is ready to be shipped. It was
> my intention to fit this over the winter, so I guess it becomes next
> winters project.
>
> In the mean time I am going to start accumulating parts, photographs
> etc. in preparation. I am looking for some experience and advice
> about brakes. I have tracked down finger brakes used for dune
> buggies. Does anyone know if they are similar as to what is used in
> the Trig gear ? See:
>
> http://www.mooreparts.com/store/product/2257/CNC452SB-34/
>
> They are available in two bore sizes, 5/8 and 3/4. What bore sizes
> are used in the Europa ? Also, what type of brake fluid is used ?
>
> I have taken delivery of a jack screw drive for my flaps, could
> someone point me towards the trigear install pages that detail out how
> this is fitted.
>
> Thanks, Paul
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Convention Gear Europa |
A smaller and lighter version (which should be globally available) of the
Factory behemoths can be found on the back of a trials bike. Try the parts
catalogues at:
http://www.gasgasuk.com/gas-gas-spare-parts.php
I expect that there is a US equivalent.
These have a small bore, but that doesn't matter; the Factory versions have
too large a bore; if you remember, the diameter of the calliper cylinder on
the monowheel had to be made larger to compensate. However, fluid/seal
compatability will need to be matched with the calipers.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 2:02 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Convention Gear Europa
> <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Well at last my conventional gear kit is ready to be shipped. It was
> my intention to fit this over the winter, so I guess it becomes next
> winters project.
>
> In the mean time I am going to start accumulating parts, photographs
> etc. in preparation. I am looking for some experience and advice
> about brakes. I have tracked down finger brakes used for dune
> buggies. Does anyone know if they are similar as to what is used in
> the Trig gear ? See:
>
> http://www.mooreparts.com/store/product/2257/CNC452SB-34/
>
> They are available in two bore sizes, 5/8 and 3/4. What bore sizes
> are used in the Europa ? Also, what type of brake fluid is used ?
>
> I have taken delivery of a jack screw drive for my flaps, could
> someone point me towards the trigear install pages that detail out how
> this is fitted.
>
> Thanks, Paul
>
>
>
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Subject: | UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System |
Another response by email to my question regarding FAA licences. It should
be no problem as Ian says it is a UK address that matters.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ian Seager
Sent: 15 March 2008 18:18
Subject: Re: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
As far as I understand it from talking to people at NATS you need a UK
address, not necessarily a UK licence, an FAA or I guess any other
verifiable licence will do.
Ian
On 15 Mar 2008, at 15:03, Pete Lawless wrote:
>
> At least they are responding to questions on a Saturday afternoon.
> However
> I am not hopeful of the outcome - it seems to require you to hold a UK
> licence to participate. Echoes of the GPS Approach trials?
>
> Pete
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
> Joyce
> Sent: 15 March 2008 12:53
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
>
<davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
> >
>
> Alan, A comparison of the ease with which one can get Notams from
> the French
> SIA and the horribly tortuous business of getting them from the CAA,
> doesn't
> fill me with confidence, and an initial attempt to log in producing
> a file
> the computer couldn't read hasn't helped!
> Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Burrows" <alan@kestrel-insurance.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 1:25 AM
> Subject: Europa-List: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System
>
>
>>
>>
>> I KNOW THIS WONT APPEAL TO EVERYONE, BUT IT'S WORTH NOTING ANYWAY.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This has just been announced. Apparently NATS have been working on
>> it for
>> some time. It might even be as good as the French OLIVIA system, or
>> the
>> Austrian system
>>
>>
>>
>> https://ts1.flightplanningonline.co.uk/
>>
>>
>>
>> ALAN
>>
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Subject: | Re: The trials of fitting |
On Saturday, Mar 15, 2008, at 09:00 US/Pacific, ALAN YERLY wrote:
> Trials of fitting, in a word is craftsmanship.
>
> Unless you have built cabinets with curved doors for a living, fitting
> the Europa doorsor anany aircraftcanopy is not an intuitive task.
Yerlysan...you are indeed a master and I such a novice...this is said
with total respect.
It's reassuring to know that a pro plans for 40 hours/door set, I think
I've been hard at it for about 3 weeks, just this morning succeeding in
locking the shoot bolts within the fuselage after being satisfied w/
the hinge operation. I wish I had had the benefit of your process
before beginning rather than accepting the build manual as gospel
(until I hit some dead ends).
Thank you for your comments on gapping, as how to properly allow for
filler and paint has been something I've been scratching my head about;
the goal being to have all gaps looking good AND functional after
getting them back from the painter. I've been really surprised to find
significant variations in the thickness of the filler/primer on the
fuselage top in the vicinity of the tang recesses as delivered.
I have one suggestion which may be helpful to others regarding the
location of the hinges and their alignment. I happened to have a 6'
length of 3/32" precision ground SS rod (from McMaster-Carr) which I
temporarily substituted for the hinge pins while locating the hinge
leaves on the tang. Used in conjunction w/ a straightedge, it really
simplified alignment.
Fred
A194
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Subject: | Re: English language certificates - UK |
Its nice to know I will get a certificate so I can legally use English.
----- Original Message -----
From: David.Corbett
To: Europa Forum
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 7:28 AM
Subject: Europa-List: English language certificates - UK
The UK CAA have confirmed this week that all professional licence
holders should by now have received their English language certificates,
and that the "private" licence categories are now being processed at the
rate of 500 per day.
David
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Subject: | Trials of Fitting (doors) |
Hi Fred,
Welcome to the joys of building!
The real "pissed off" feeling comes when, after all the meticulous fitting
and fiddling that we perfectionists tend to perform, you find that the thing
changes after some time in the sun, with the corners cocked up, looking as
though you threw it together in an afternoon, without wearing your
glasses!!!
Lesson - make sure you make some provision to prevent the pressure of the
gas strut deforming the door under warm conditions, as happened to mine,
built to original spec's. There are a few ways to do this.
Regards Graham Higgins in Oz.
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Subject: | Re: Trials of Fitting (doors) |
Graham
are you aware of Ted Gladstones fix for this? His solution removes the
load from the door and the fuselage, which probably both move.
Graham
Graham Higgins wrote:
> <ghiggins@cirruscomms.com.au>
>
> Hi Fred,
> Welcome to the joys of building!
> The real "pissed off" feeling comes when, after all the meticulous
> fitting and fiddling that we perfectionists tend to perform, you find
> that the thing changes after some time in the sun, with the corners
> cocked up, looking as though you threw it together in an afternoon,
> without wearing your glasses!!!
> Lesson - make sure you make some provision to prevent the pressure of
> the gas strut deforming the door under warm conditions, as happened to
> mine, built to original spec's. There are a few ways to do this.
> Regards Graham Higgins in Oz.
>
>
>
>
>
--
Graham Singleton
Tel: +441629820187
Mob: +447739582005
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Subject: | Re: Trials of Fitting (doors) |
Graham, Kingsley Hurst has done the same mod to his classic mono
out a Taroom. Last time i was out there it was about 40c and his doors looked perfect.
The way he had the pivot points set up for this the strut
seem to be providing a moderate amount of hold down pressure on the door. I believe
I will do doing the same mod on mine.
regards
Craig
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Subject: | Re: UK Internet Flight Plan Filing System |
If the new UK system is anything like the Aussie system we have been using for
about 10 years then i am sure those of you that are happy
using the Internet will love it. For Australia it takes about 3 clicks to get the
NOTAMS you need and about 30 seconds to lodge a flight plan with multiple way-points.
regards
Craig
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Subject: | 11 Years 10 Months |
Near to the day from first lay-up to first flight for ZK-ZEB, all went well.
Europa Classic #198.
Wilksch Powered.
Weight 960lbs.
Peter.
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