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1. 04:06 AM - Re: FW: Emailing: IMG_0850, IMG_0854, IMG_0856, IMG_0857;IMG_0860;IMG_0859 (Kingsley Hurst)
2. 04:51 AM - Recommended oils and main gear leg sockets (TELEDYNMCS@aol.com)
3. 05:18 AM - Re: Rotax recommended oils (rampil)
4. 05:23 AM - Re: Trike Main gear sockets (rampil)
5. 05:48 AM - Wing dolley - where to put the pivot point (milnera)
6. 05:48 AM - Re: Trike Main gear sockets (Karl Heindl)
7. 06:05 AM - Re: Re: Trike Main gear sockets (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
8. 06:20 AM - Re: Trike Main gear sockets (Michael Grass)
9. 06:38 AM - Re: Sun'n'fun (bryan allsop)
10. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: Rotax recommended oils (david miller)
11. 07:43 AM - Re: Trike Main gear sockets (Rob Housman)
12. 07:47 AM - Re: Trike Main gear sockets (Graham Singleton)
13. 08:18 AM - Re: Wing dolley - where to put the pivot point (Robert C Harrison)
14. 09:10 AM - Re: Rotax recommended oils (david miller)
15. 12:08 PM - AV-9 Oil (Erich Trombley)
16. 01:20 PM - Re: Re: Trike Main gear sockets (craig bastin)
17. 03:45 PM - Re: FW: Emailing: IMG_0850, IMG_0854, IMG_0856, IMG_0857;IMG_0860;IMG_0859 (JR Gowing)
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Subject: | Re: FW: Emailing: IMG_0850, IMG_0854, IMG_0856, IMG_0857;IMG_0860;IMG_0859 |
Bob,
Wrapped in your photos mate ! Certainly different from what we saw.
We have just arrived home 2 hrs ago after 3,200 km round trip for the
wedding of one of our sons. . . . . weather all the way . . . . 'Severe
CAVOK' as usual !
Cheers from Oz
Kingsley
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Subject: | Recommended oils and main gear leg sockets |
Greetings team,
Can anybody provide a link to info about this change in approved oils? I
checked the Rotax Owners Group and didn't see anything new. I've been running
Pennzoil 3888 motorcycle oil, as was recommended by Aeromot in the 912S in my
Ximango. Any info is appreciated.
In regard to the main gear leg sockets, I fitted mine well before the top
went on. I deviated a bit from the Europa method of fitting the sockets,
however. I built my cradle with lower bracing between the front and rear legs
that
was perfectly level with respect to the lower half of the fuselage. Using a
piece of 2" steel angle iron attached crosswise on the cradle, I fitted the
sockets using the gear legs, with the axle portion locked into the steel angle
with "C" clamps. This put the axles level and even for the fitting of the
sockets. The result is N245E tracks straight as an arrow on pavement with no
tendency to veer one way or the other. I have also not noticed any abnormal tire
wear, but then again I mostly fly from grass. I found it very handy to be
able to move the canoe around in the shop once it was up on the gear, as
opposed to being locked in the cradle.
Hope it helps!
Regards,
John Lawton
Whitwell, TN (TN89)
N245E - Flying
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Subject: | Re: Rotax recommended oils |
Any know why Pennzoil dropped off the list?
Politics or change in formulation? Both have been reasons in the past.
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Subject: | Re: Trike Main gear sockets |
Craig,
Before seems to me to be the only way to go. Thats what I did at
FlightCrafters. Just make sure your cradle is solid.
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Subject: | Wing dolley - where to put the pivot point |
I had hoped for an Easter weekend in Cornwall, but with snow, rain, gales and generally
miserable weather I thought I'd make up some wing dolleys to aid self
rigging.
I've pretty much copied the design used by many; essentially two layups clamped
around the tip, hinged on the underside and supported by a two wheeled metal
frame the pivots to allow the wing to move from vertical to horizontal. The layups
are curing now in this tropical heat so they should be ready by next Easter
:)
Anyone who has been using a similar design, can you suggest where to put the pivot
point for a trigear wing? I planned to balance it so it's slightly leading-edge
heavy. It would then fall to the vertical for storage and when wheeling
it around.
Any comments from experience most welcome. I haven't built the frame yet.
Alan
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Subject: | Trike Main gear sockets |
I was one. I installed the entire undercarriage once the cockpit module was
fitted, and discarded the trestles the fuselage was sitting on.
Karl
<html><div></div>> Subject: Europa-List: Trike Main gear sockets> Fr
om: craigb@onthenet.com.au> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 06:15:30 +0200> To: euro
aigb@onthenet.com.au>> > Just curious, how many of you fitted the main gear
leg sockets before> you bonded the top on.> > > > > > > Visit - www.Europa
=======> > >
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Subject: | Re: Trike Main gear sockets |
Mine was about 40 hours of work with the top NOT bonded on! I cant imagine
attempting such a lay-up with the top on. I originally called Europa about
this. Andy said so long as you have a cradle with very good support there should
be no problem.
Lots of photos on this chapter in my little area of Europa Owners.
Brian Skelly
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Subject: | Re: Trike Main gear sockets |
Craig,
My web took some 80h to complete without thhe top on. I can not imagine how
peope do this with the top and no frequent vistits to the chiropractor.
Regards
Michael Grass
A266, 914, Woodcomp prop,
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From: "raggi6771" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 12:15 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Trike Main gear sockets
>
> Just curious, how many of you fitted the main gear leg sockets before
> you bonded the top on.
>
>
> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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I will be there, but I am not sure which day, or days yet.
If anyone would like to contact me, my cell phone number is; 407 346 0629.
Cheers.
Bryan Allsop
> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:50:59 -0500> From: topglock@cox.net> To: europa
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sage posted by: Jeff B <topglock@cox.net>> > With only three weeks before t
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he list, if attending...> > Jeff - Baby Blue> 379 hrs> > Jeff & Mary Behrne
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Subject: | Re: Rotax recommended oils |
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the suggestion re Valvoline, this is a brand I have not
looked for.
I can't find the Pennzoil motorcycle oil anymore. It seems to have
been replaced by "outdoor Equipment" oil.
Shows a motorcycle among other things on the container, but the API
specification I think is different.
For what it is worth, I also installed the gear leg sockets without
the top on, so far, the tire wear has been even.
Dave A061
On 24-Mar-08, at 7:15 AM, rampil wrote:
>
> Any know why Pennzoil dropped off the list?
>
> Politics or change in formulation? Both have been reasons in the past.
>
> --------
> Ira N224XS
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=172159#172159
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Subject: | Trike Main gear sockets |
We cuss a lot.
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Irvine, CA
Europa XS Tri-Gear
A070
Airframe complete
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Grass
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:14 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Trike Main gear sockets
Craig,
My web took some 80h to complete without thhe top on. I can not imagine how
peope do this with the top and no frequent vistits to the chiropractor.
Regards
Michael Grass
A266, 914, Woodcomp prop,
----- Original Message -----
From: "raggi6771" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 12:15 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Trike Main gear sockets
>
> Just curious, how many of you fitted the main gear leg sockets before
> you bonded the top on.
>
>
> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Trike Main gear sockets |
raggi6771 wrote:
>
> Just curious, how many of you fitted the main gear leg sockets before
> you bonded the top on.
>
Once the cockpit module is bonded in the front part of the tub is very
stiff. It's worth clecoing the top on to maintain the straightness of
the aft half but it makes a lot of sense to leave the top off when
working in the tub. Makes it possible to do many of the jobs properly,
like setting up and adjusting the elevator travel and trim tab
connection, almost impossible with the top on!
Graham
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Subject: | Wing dolley - where to put the pivot point |
Hi! Alan
I mused about this problem when I built my wing dolly and also since
having used it often. However when I rig with a helper, who initially
handles the tip, when I take over the tip end from him having engaged
the spar, I lift the tip trailing edge with one hand until he is out of
the way, so my thoughts are that the tip end C of G is in fact behind
the trailing edge (in fresh air!) when the root end of the wing is
supported by the spar.
In other words you can not make the dolly to fit the C of G. I plumped
for approx. mid chord for the pivot.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of milnera
Sent: 24 March 2008 12:41
Subject: Europa-List: Wing dolley - where to put the pivot point
<alan_milner@totalise.co.uk>
I had hoped for an Easter weekend in Cornwall, but with snow, rain,
gales and generally miserable weather I thought I'd make up some wing
dolleys to aid self rigging.
I've pretty much copied the design used by many; essentially two layups
clamped around the tip, hinged on the underside and supported by a two
wheeled metal frame the pivots to allow the wing to move from vertical
to horizontal. The layups are curing now in this tropical heat so they
should be ready by next Easter :)
Anyone who has been using a similar design, can you suggest where to put
the pivot point for a trigear wing? I planned to balance it so it's
slightly leading-edge heavy. It would then fall to the vertical for
storage and when wheeling it around.
Any comments from experience most welcome. I haven't built the frame
yet.
Alan
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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23/03/2008 18:50
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Subject: | Re: Rotax recommended oils |
It was not too difficult to locate Dura Blend, although up here they
only seem to stock 5/30 and 10/30.
My 912ULS runs cool, at least it does in this part of the world, so I
presume 30 will be OK.
As luck would have it, I also found some of the Pennzoil motorcycle
oil that I had been using.
I'm not sure if it is old stock that would be acceptable, or if it is
a new batch that has been re-formulated.
Anyway, next oil change will be to Dura Blend.
Dave
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On 23-Mar-08, at 7:21 PM, Rman wrote:
>
> Dura Blend goes in Baby Blue, also...
>
> Jeff - Baby Blue
> 380 hrs
>
> Paul McAllister wrote:
>> <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Vavloline Duablend was still on the list last time I checked. I am
>> using up the last of my Pennzoil at the moment so I will need to
>> change as well pretty soon.
>>
>> Cheers, Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Dave wrote "Since Pennzoil dropped off the approved list, I have not had
much luck locating an oil recommended for occasional use with leaded ga
s. Has anyone in N America found a source for Mobil 1 clean 7500 ? Anyo
ne tried the AV-9 oil from Rotaxparts.net, (California Power Systems),
or know anything about this oil ?"
I have been using this oil for some years now. I spoke with the owner o
f CPS and he indicated that the oil was produced by Pennzoil under the R
otax specs. I haven't had any issues that I am aware of.
Erich Trombley
N28ET Classic Mono 914
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Subject: | Re: Trike Main gear sockets |
Thanks all for your input, as my cradle supports at 4 points, and it is nice
and clear of the socket site I will proceed with the top off.
craig
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
EuropaXSA276@aol.com
Sent: Monday, 24 March 2008 10:58 PM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Trike Main gear sockets
Mine was about 40 hours of work with the top NOT bonded on! I cant imagine
attempting such a lay-up with the top on. I originally called Europa about
this. Andy said so long as you have a cradle with very good support there
should be no problem.
Lots of photos on this chapter in my little area of Europa Owners.
Brian Skelly
www.europaowners.org/BrianS
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Subject: | Re: FW: Emailing: IMG_0850, IMG_0854, IMG_0856, IMG_0857;IMG_0860;IMG_0859 |
Kingsley
My photos are a mess in my computer and the ones I wanted to send
(I believe) are still im my camera -
I think that I did not send you any!
Anyway I am very nearly ready to fill the bottom of the stbd wing if the day
clears up. I need to lay one more thin line along the root edge to make
sure I get some cover there.
I don't know whether to lay filler in between the plates that hold the
training wheel
mechanism. (can't think of the correct word again as usual)
Feel like a cat on hot bricks as usual before a job so better do something
useful............
Best Wishes
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@redzone.com.au>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: Emailing: IMG_0850, IMG_0854, IMG_0856,
IMG_0857;IMG_0860;IMG_0859
> <hurstkr@redzone.com.au>
>
> Bob,
>
> Wrapped in your photos mate ! Certainly different from what we saw.
>
> We have just arrived home 2 hrs ago after 3,200 km round trip for the
> wedding of one of our sons. . . . . weather all the way . . . . 'Severe
> CAVOK' as usual !
>
> Cheers from Oz
>
> Kingsley
>
> do not archive
>
>
> --
> Date: 23/03/2008 6:50 PM
>
>
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