---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/29/08: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:16 AM - Re: leaks on cooling system (yannick LAURENS) 2. 01:29 AM - Stockholm Europa Builder Phillip Lincoln (Robert C Harrison) 3. 07:54 AM - Re: leaks on cooling system (josok) 4. 08:38 AM - Re: leaks on cooling system () 5. 08:54 AM - Re: leaks on cooling system (Ivor Phillips) 6. 09:17 AM - Restarting my build (Rick Sivier) 7. 09:41 AM - Floscan fuel flow sensor - LAA mod approval (William Harrison) 8. 09:41 AM - Re: leaks on cooling system (josok) 9. 10:22 AM - testing (Peter Timm) 10. 11:15 AM - testing - peter timm (Peter Timm) 11. 11:23 AM - Re: testing (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 12. 03:37 PM - Re: Wing Dolly (pat) 13. 04:55 PM - Two New Lists Added to the Matronics Lineup! (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:20 AM PST US From: "yannick LAURENS" Subject: Re: Europa-List: leaks on cooling system No, I don't use Evans, but I think its perhaps time to change the hoses, and fit the new clamps from rotax. thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: Trevpond@aol.com To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: leaks on cooling system Hi there, Are you using Evans? I have just had to change my Radiator Hoses after 150 hours using Evans - it seemed to soften them and developed a leak on the ends - tightening the clips didn't achieve anything. The hoses had expanded before the clamps and had gone "Squishy". Hoses have been changed and Evans flushed out and replaced with 50/50 glycol mix and all is now well again. regards Trev Pond G-LINN ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:29:52 AM PST US From: "Robert C Harrison" Subject: Europa-List: Stockholm Europa Builder Phillip Lincoln Hi! Philip . Please contact me direct :- ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk ASAP. I need a little local Swedish help with an aviation problem. I lost your contact details in my computer crash and now my mobile phone has dumped on me too. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG Do not archive. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:54:10 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: leaks on cooling system From: "josok" Leaking problems here too. As long as the engine is warm, not a drop. If i don't use the engine heater, there will be a few drops. Seems to be a problem caused by different expansion ratios. The traditional screw type hose clamps are not good enough. However i could only find Rotax 17 mm spring clamps. Anyboby with a source and or partnumber for 25 mm spring hose clamps? Regards, Jos Okhuijsen Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:59 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: leaks on cooling system From: Hi Jos "Anyboby with a source and or partnumber for 25 mm spring hose clamps?" I am not a tremendous fan of hose clamps that hold a constant dimension on something that heats up and cools down. If you overtighten to prevent cold leaking, it can permanent damage hose once things expand when things warm up. http://rotorclip.com/ to the rescue. Rotax changed over to band style spring clamps for coolant hoses for just the reason described. www.mcmaster.com sells Wide-Band Self-Tightening Spring Hose and Tube Clamps on page 252. I know I ordered a full compliment for my 914 install, some from McMaster, and some from Rotorclip. I can't remember if I ordered direct from Rotorclip, or if they gave me a distributor and ordered from them. For what it is worth, I have a set of blue Silicone hoses for 914, which are slippery creatures compared to traditional hose. Ron Parigoris PS McMaster has a nice selection of Miniature Bolt Hose and Tube Clamps in 304 SS on page 251 "fuel, sight, vent" line and other from 19/64" up to 45/64". ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:14 AM PST US From: "Ivor Phillips" Subject: RE: Europa-List: leaks on cooling system Hi Jos I used Vauxhall/Opel/GM Part number 90572595 spring clamps, I have used Silicone hoses on my 914 which are slightly thicker than the stock Rotax hose, But these clips are suitable for both type of hoses, Regards Ivor Subject: Re: Europa-List: leaks on cooling system The traditional screw type hose clamps are not good enough. However i could only find Rotax 17 mm spring clamps. Anyboby with a source and or partnumber for 25 mm spring hose clamps? Regards, Jos Okhuijsen ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:30 AM PST US From: "Rick Sivier" Subject: Europa-List: Restarting my build Hi folks, It's been a long time since I posted anything here after to a long hiatus in my Europa-building activities due to changes in my personal circumstances (divorced, moved house three times, remarried - you get the picture). However, I am now installed in my new workshop and ready to retrieve all my aeroplane bits from my mum's garage. Before I get my wings into the workshop, however, I thought I would have a go at baking the control surfaces that I have made so far. I have some insulation panels left over from insulating the workshop, so I am going to build myself a big oven. However, I vaguely remember seeing some discussion here a while back about supporting the items whist they are being heated to avoid distortion, but I can't find the messages in the archive - I'm probably searching with the wrong key words. So if anyone has any advice in this area, I would be very grateful for it. Finally, if anyone here still has a link to my old website, I have moved it to www.ricks.me.uk/europa and I will try to keep it up to date as I progress. I look forward to talking to you all more frequently in the coming years! Regards Rick Sivier ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:19 AM PST US From: William Harrison Subject: Europa-List: Floscan fuel flow sensor - LAA mod approval Hi folks I'm submitting a mod form to the LAA for the installation of a (single) Floscan fuel flow sensor. It would help if I had some previous examples of other Europas which have had this mod approved by PFA/LAA. All help appreciated. Also, please could you say where you have installed the transducer? Many thanks in advance. Willie G-BZNY - a plane being reborn, currently feeling the early contractions... ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:19 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: leaks on cooling system From: "josok" Thank you guys for the rescue. Because i have a very non-standard cooling system, i had to make connections from different pieces of hose. It looks like a patch blanket :-) As a result there are a lot more possible leaking conections as i would like. Remembers me: I have a brand new oil cooler, which i will not use. Available for shipping costs. Regards, Jos Okhuijsen Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:25 AM PST US From: "Peter Timm" Subject: Europa-List: testing I'm not receiving Europa messages since March 10, 2008... just testing to see if it is at my end or not. Peter Timm, British Columbia ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:15:34 AM PST US From: "Peter Timm" Subject: Europa-List: testing - peter timm ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:23:45 AM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: testing I'm in Northern California and am reading you 5 by 5. Mike Duane A207A Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Jabiru 3300 Sensenich R64Z N Ground Adjustable Prop **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15&ncid=aolhom00030000000001) ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:37:48 PM PST US From: "pat" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Wing Dolly Nice looking trailer.. and a fine looking paint job on the Europa Love the rainbow scheme. Very simple but looks better than some of the elaborate ones I've seen.... ;) -=Pat -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham Singleton Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:46 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Wing Dolly William more pix Graham William Daniell wrote: > Excellent, thanks Will > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Iddon > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2007 08:59 > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Europa-List: Wing Dolly > > > > Pics attached. > > > > Regards. > > > > Richard Iddon. G-RIXS > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *William > Daniell > *Sent:* 23 May 2007 13:14 > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: Europa-List: trailer wing support profile. > > > > Can anyone send me a design for a self rig dolly.or tell me where to get > one please? > > Will > > > > > > > 22/05/2007 15:49 > > > 22/05/2007 15:49 > > * > > > * -- Graham Singleton Tel: +441629820187 Mob: +447739582005 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:55:52 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Europa-List: Two New Lists Added to the Matronics Lineup! Dear Listers, I've added two new Email Lists to the Matronics List and Forum lineup today. These include the Rans-List and RV12-List. 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