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1. 01:17 AM - Re: Mod 72 Debacle (Robert C Harrison)
2. 06:36 AM - Re: Sun and Fun Meeting? (EuropaXSA276@aol.com)
3. 06:36 AM - Re: Sun and Fun Meeting? (rampil)
4. 07:30 AM - Re: Re: Sun and Fun Meeting? (rick)
5. 08:24 AM - Re: Completed monowheel airframe for sale (JR Gowing) (Gerry Cole)
6. 08:32 AM - Re: Re: Sun and Fun Meeting? (Alan Burrows)
7. 09:52 AM - Re: Bob Gowing & Gerry Cole (Gerry Cole)
8. 02:12 PM - Re: Bob Gowing & Gerry Cole (craig bastin)
9. 03:41 PM - Archive (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
10. 04:37 PM - Re: Archive (Lance Sandford)
11. 04:59 PM - Re: Archive (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
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Hi! Jason
I have a Bell Intercooler fitted and I'm interested in your Intercooler
Installation but can't find your web site as indicated below. Would you
please mail me it direct to:-
ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk
Also have you, or will you be making any provision anti carb ice? The
lowest carb throat temp. I have recorded during a rapid decent, engine
idling, from 4,000ft (ground ambient 11deg Centigrade ) is 6 deg C.
However we in the UK have very low humidity conditions in winter.
Regards
Bob Harrison. G-PTAG
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jason
Parker
Sent: 07 April 2008 03:19
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mod 72 Debacle
Bud,
I have the intercoolers done. Take a look at my web sight under page
Europa. I took the pictures with a higher quality camera. Tell me what
you think. See if you can drum up some interest.
Jason
ALAN YERLY <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:
Don't cut them off.
The etching primer is thick enough that you lost the clearances for a
slip fit. During the assembly you probably scrapped the paint enough to
cause galling (or little paint rolls) which has locked it up.
Clean off the primer, I would use a spray of acetone to clean the inside
of the tube from the rear. That will loosen the paint up. Use a fine
tip heat gun and heat the frame only where the interference is. Etching
primer gets soft at about 200F (just to a sizzle when water put on it is
enough). That will not hurt the tubing or firewall. Remove the heat
and use alcohol to cool the insert then tap again. If it moves in go
ahead and try to move it in further or make an extraction tool.
I made the same mistake on one aircraft and had to put a painfully long
screw (5/16 inch with a washer head ground to fit) inside the gear frame
tube but large enough to catch the insert wall. I then borrowed a slide
hammer to extract the insert. Lucky for me it was only in about an
inch. But it still requires removing the bolts from the frame,
machining a bolt head which will fit your slide hammer, replace the
frame bolts, and then heating the stupid thing, cooling the insert and
then pull it out.
Now I just ream, squirt with zinc chromate or the Corrosion X (ACP or
ACF 50) and tap it in wet and recoat front and rear to seal it in. If
you put primer on both the parts and let it dry, make the paint thin and
use the ACF 50 as a lube as well as for anticorrosion.
Hope it helps.
Bud Yerly,
Custom Flight Creations.
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From: flyingphil2 <mailto:ptiller@lolacars.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 1:39 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Mod 72 Debacle
Suppose that you were doing Mod 72 and it was going to be really easy as
you you are still building and haven't got the engine attached.
So, suppose that you have borrowed the club reamer and opened up the
tubes in the undercarriage frame and cleaned them out. The unpainted
inserts could then be pushed in by hand until only about 1cm was
showing.
Suppose then that you were rather enthusiastic with the etch primer and
after it had dried, tried to push the inserts in. Having got them half
way in with a hammer, what would you do if they really really didn't
want to go any further in? I mean hitting them with a hammer via a
block
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| Subject: | Re: Sun and Fun Meeting? |
Thanks Jeff:
Look forward to seeing you two again this year.
Brian Skelly
North Texas USA
Europa XS A276
See my build photos at _www.europaowners.org/BrianS_
(http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS)
(http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)
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| Subject: | Re: Sun and Fun Meeting? |
According to the Roster, Europa is in the North Area at N90
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Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=175233#175233
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| Subject: | Re: Sun and Fun Meeting? |
Hi
Ray and myself will be at the Europa booth at 11 ish on Friday and probably
Saturday as well and look forward to seeing all Europaphiles. Any Brits
going?
Cheers
Rick Morris
G-RIKS
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rampil
Sent: 07 April 2008 14:33
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Sun and Fun Meeting?
According to the Roster, Europa is in the North Area at N90
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Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=175233#175233
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| Subject: | Re: Completed monowheel airframe for sale (JR Gowing) |
Hi Bob,
You are a couple of years older than me and have broken what I thought was
the longest
build-time record.
The Lyndhurst fuel level indicator is now part of Europa's mod 60 Kit for fitting
to the
Europa fuel tank. It is supplied by Lyndhurst - Touchdown - Services Ltd
(www.avnet.co.uk/touchdown) to the precise length specified by the buyer. I bought mine from
Touchdown before mod 60 appeared.
The sensor is a sealed stainless steel tube housing 8 reed switches. These
are activated by
an external magnetic ring float. My mod 10710 has this sensor assembly housed in
a
precision-made fibreglass tube, flanged at the top and sealed at the bottom with
an embedded
boss holding a 90 deg inlet pipe fitting. A thick machined aluminium ring at the
top carries the
outlet pipe fitting. The unit is inserted in to the left hand vent line and is
mounted on a
substantial bracket reduxed to the forward baggage bay bulkhead just behind the
fuel tank ( the
mod 74 lift-pin crosstube passes between my unit and the bulkhead with a small
clearance). It
took two attempts and a complex jig to get the fibre glass tube right and then
six months to
clear the mod with our PFA (now LAA). I also had to do the pressure test specified
in JAR-VLA
965 - equivalent to an eleven foot head of fuel. The main advantage is, being translucent,
it is
possible to see the fuel level in the tube in your pre-flight ckecks and you have
a proper
contents indicator on the panel.
If you would like more detail (and several week's work!), please contact me
off list and I
will be pleased to help.
Sincerely
Gerry Cole, kit 121
----- Original Message -----
From: "JR Gowing" <jrgowing@bigpond.net.au>
Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Completed monowheel airframe for sale
>
> Dear Gerry
>
> You did not say how old you were!
>
> I am 77 and done most of what you have on my kit no. 327 more than 6000 hrs or
so and I too
> have concerns about whether I can finish the job.
>
> I have not heard of the Lyndhurst Fuel Sensor and would like to know how you
arranged it "in
> a separate fuel stack that allows a visual pre-flight check on contents."
>
> I would be pleased if you felt like telling me and the other list members enough
to give us a
> feel for the project )
>
> Maybe more questions might arise if you could tolerate them.
>
> Sincerely
>
> JR (bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz
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| Subject: | Re: Sun and Fun Meeting? |
Hi Rick
Kate and I will be there Thurs. Fri.
Alan Burrows
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rick
Sent: 07 April 2008 15:25
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Sun and Fun Meeting?
Hi
Ray and myself will be at the Europa booth at 11 ish on Friday and probably
Saturday as well and look forward to seeing all Europaphiles. Any Brits
going?
Cheers
Rick Morris
G-RIKS
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rampil
Sent: 07 April 2008 14:33
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Sun and Fun Meeting?
According to the Roster, Europa is in the North Area at N90
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=175233#175233
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| Subject: | Re: Bob Gowing & Gerry Cole |
Ferg and Craig,
Thanks for the encouragement but not having flown as P1 for a while, I've decided
it would
be nice to sit back with a beer and watch others do the aviating. I'm sure you
are enjoying your
build as much as I have.The satisfaction of producing a Europa component as near
perfect as
possible is something few outside our circle experience.
Josok,
On occasion a builder has to proceed carefully and think things through if
he is using a
technique or material that is new to him, but that is the quickest way of learning.
I've also
found that you need plenty of preparation, dry runs and memorised steps if something
like a
complex layup needs to be completed quickly without errors - that is where the
hours go.
Sincerely, Gerry
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| Subject: | Bob Gowing & Gerry Cole |
here's a thought, if you no longer want to own your bird, maybe sell a half
share, that being the engine etc
to get her flying, and even if you dont have your licence any more you could
get your other share holder to
take you for a spin, just mind you dont spill your beer :)
good luck in your future endeavors
craig
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Gerry Cole
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Bob Gowing & Gerry Cole
Ferg and Craig,
Thanks for the encouragement but not having flown as P1 for a while,
I've decided it would
be nice to sit back with a beer and watch others do the aviating. I'm sure
you are enjoying your
build as much as I have.The satisfaction of producing a Europa component as
near perfect as
possible is something few outside our circle experience.
Josok,
On occasion a builder has to proceed carefully and think things through
if he is using a
technique or material that is new to him, but that is the quickest way of
learning. I've also
found that you need plenty of preparation, dry runs and memorised steps if
something like a
complex layup needs to be completed quickly without errors - that is where
the hours go.
Sincerely, Gerry
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It seems that my link to the Forum Archive is no longer valid and I can't
find a link at of my other Europa sites. Could someone please post the new
address so I can go back and look up some items that I have questions on?
Thanks in advance.
Mike Duane A207A
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
Jabiru 3300
Sensenich R64Z N
Ground Adjustable Prop
(http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)
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Mike
Is this the URL you need?
http://www.europaowners.org/
Lance Sandford in OZ
> It seems that my link to the Forum Archive is no longer valid and I
> can't find a link at of my other Europa sites. Could someone please
> post the new address so I can go back and look up some items that I
> have questions on?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Mike Duane A207A
> Redding, California
> XS Conventional Gear
> Jabiru 3300
> Sensenich R64Z N
> Ground Adjustable Pro
>
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That is it. Thanks
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In a message dated 4/7/2008 4:39:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
sandford@melbpc.org.au writes:
Mike
Is this the URL you need?
_http://www.europaowners.org/_ (http://www.europaowners.org/)
Lance Sandford in OZ
It seems that my link to the Forum Archive is no longer valid and I can't
find a link at of my other Europa sites. Could someone please post the new
address so I can go back and look up some items that I have questions on?
Thanks in advance.
Mike Duane A207A
Redding, California
XS Conventional Gear
Jabiru 3300
Sensenich R64Z N
Ground Adjustable Pro
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List)
(http://www.matronics.com/contribution)
(http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)
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