---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/12/08: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:04 AM - Re: Re: is there a local source for exhaust pipes? (Paul Boulet) 2. 01:27 AM - Re: Spacer for Wing Top (Rowland Carson) 3. 07:02 AM - Re: Re: is there a local source for exhaust pipes? (Paul McAllister) 4. 12:33 PM - Jason Parker engines (Fred Klein) 5. 01:41 PM - Re: Jason Parker engines (rampil) 6. 02:14 PM - Re: Re: Exhaust Pipe Crack (Paul Boulet) 7. 02:29 PM - Re: Jason Parker engines (craig bastin) 8. 06:58 PM - Re: Re: is there a local source for exhaust pipes? () 9. 07:46 PM - FW: Wing fillets...per prevoious discussion (Fergus Kyle) 10. 09:25 PM - Re: Re: Jason Parker engines (jason Parker) 11. 10:02 PM - Re: FW: Wing fillets...per prevoious discussion () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:36 AM PST US From: Paul Boulet Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: is there a local source for exhaust pipes? Thanks Ira. I been outta the build loop so long on this thing that I've lost a lot of interest. Basically just need the exhaust pipe to complete the annual, fly off another 15 ours, then put the interior in and it'll be ready to sell. Market so soft on Europas tho that I may just hang onto it a few years and fly when I can. Take care, Paul Boulet, Malibu, CA N914PB do not archive rampil wrote: Unlike the 912s the 914 uses a specific Rotax set of parts. California Power Systems in the Bay Area is the biggest Rotax Dealer/ Supplier on the West Coast(as you probably know). They should be able to help you out. -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=176266#176266 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:27:18 AM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Re: Europa-List: Spacer for Wing Top At 2008-04-10 17:24 -0700 Fred Klein wrote: > > >On Thursday, Apr 10, 2008, at 14:28 US/Pacific, Rowland Carson wrote: > >>I endorse Neville's advice about using the strip of vinyl as a >>spacer too - anything thinner would have needed excessive trimming >>to get my aileron travel up to spec. > >Rowland, > >Your journal is quite something...thank you for the reference. By >any chance, could you give us a thickness measurement of the vinyl >strips you're using? Fred - thanks for the kind words - I try to make it as useful as I can to me, and if in the process it helps others, that's a bonus! The vinyl was 1.36mm (see the entry for 2007-11-25) but I would guess that anything up to about 1.5mm would be OK. The vinyl does tend to compress a bit if you get the recommended amount of weight on the joint. regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson LAA #16532 http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/ | 990 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:37 AM PST US From: "Paul McAllister" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: is there a local source for exhaust pipes? Folks, I need a set for the 914 engine I am building up for my fuel injection project and when I looked into the price a price a year ago they were $1100.00 per pipe, and no doubt cost more since the shift in the US dollar to the Euro. I did notice that Jason Parker has a nice looking set of pipes and turbocharger manifold that he has fabricated for his turbo charged Rotax engines that he offers on his web site at http://www.experimentalfuelinjection.com/wst_page4.php. I haven't had any luck in getting him to return my emails, I suspect he is only interested in selling complete engines. I would be interested to hear if anyone finds a local manufacturer for 914 Exhaust pipes. Paul ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:33:21 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Jason Parker engines From: Fred Klein Has anyone had any experience with or background information on Jason Parker modified Rotaxes in their Europa? ...full of questions, Fred A194 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:41:38 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Jason Parker engines From: "rampil" Bud told me today that one it flying in a kitfox in California. There is an engine in Florida whose progress has been slowed by outside factors -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=176437#176437 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:14:47 PM PST US From: Paul Boulet Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Exhaust Pipe Crack below the muffler.... I never actually saw it... my mechanic and the plane located 400 miles from me Paul N914PB rampil wrote: Where did your exhaust crack? See my previous post. -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=175893#175893 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:29:16 PM PST US From: "craig bastin" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Jason Parker engines I spoke to him at length a few times about his engines etc, he kept indicating that he was happy to sell kits for other engines, as at that stage he couldnt source any more ex military 912 or 914 rotax engines. At the time i believe he was quoting around $4000 for a redundant EFI setup for the 914, he was also offering me a complete setup to take a 912 to 914efi, he was however a bit slow in responding to emails, sometimes up to a week craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fred Klein Sent: Sunday, 13 April 2008 5:29 AM Subject: Europa-List: Jason Parker engines Has anyone had any experience with or background information on Jason Parker modified Rotaxes in their Europa? ...full of questions, Fred A194 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Checked by AVG. 4:59 PM Checked by AVG. 4:59 PM ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:57 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: is there a local source for exhaust pipes? From: Hey Guys "I would be interested to hear if anyone finds a local manufacturer for 914 Exhaust pipes." A local IA swears by (not at) Dawley: http://www.dawley.net/ for Certified Cessna, Piper, Beechcraft stuff. He has had special stuff made up for oddball aircraft and was very happy with results. Worth a call, let us know outcome. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:20 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Europa-List: FW: Wing fillets...per prevoious discussion Having discovered what Mitchell prescribed for the Spitfire (which can't be all that bad, I decided half-bad was better than sharp corners, so went half way... The method was to fit foam forms to the flap area and carve a suitable shape which would slide the fillets under the GraSing ones at the trailing edge. PLUS I thought the fillet, when flaps extended, might serve partially as a fence to prevent unnecessary air being dumped off the flap.... Maybe not. I have uploaded 4 photos of my project. showing the installation of fairings/fillets. Go to the EuropaOwners gallery and I'm about fifth album down The series shows (I hope) fourth, a mod to one flap inboard end. The fillet slides under the trailing edge end of the main fillet, visible in the first three shots. I began with Graham Singleton's excellent fillet set, and embellished by extending the function to the flaps. Further explanation, on demand. Cheers, Ferg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:25:25 PM PST US From: jason Parker Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Jason Parker engines Jason parker, Take a look at www.experimentalfuelinjection.com and click on the Europa link. This is the motor I just finished for Curtis. Bud also has the same engine. I would like to thank Bud for his help. Without Bud lending me his engine, I would never have been able to build and engine that would have worked for Europas. Unfortunately I have to buy new engine from the factory and convert them. The price of a zero time fully redundand intercooled 914 is 30K. All my engines comes standard with a 55amp alt and a wideband 02 sensor. Mechanical Engineer Jason Parker rampil wrote: Bud told me today that one it flying in a kitfox in California. There is an engine in Florida whose progress has been slowed by outside factors -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=176437#176437 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:02:10 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: Wing fillets...per prevoious discussion From: Hi Ferg "The method was to fit foam forms to the flap area and carve a suitable shape which would slide the fillets under the GraSing ones at the trailing edge." For what it's worth I remember hearing that filling the flap close to make the inboard side flush caused carbon monoxide to work its way into cockpit. 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