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1. 12:53 AM - Schengen Cross Border Flights (Niels Kock)
2. 01:53 AM - Re: 912 rubber components. (G-IANI)
3. 04:54 AM - Re: 912 rubber components. (Gerry Cole)
4. 06:31 AM - Re: 912 rubber components. (Ivor Phillips)
5. 07:23 AM - Schengen Cross Border Flights (Brian and Pat Tarmar)
6. 08:40 AM - Re: Schengen Cross Border Flights (josok)
7. 12:02 PM - Re: 912 rubber components. (Duncan & Ami McFadyean)
8. 04:40 PM - Re: 912 rubber components. (Graham Singleton)
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Subject: | Schengen Cross Border Flights |
Gentlemen.
2 years ago I flew my Europa from Odense, Denmark to St. Ghislain, Belgium,
to test-fly another
Europa for an English buyer living in Sweden.
Years ago I received confirmations from the Netherlands, Germany, Poland, T
he Chech Republic,
Norway and Sweden , Switzerland and France, that home-builts with a nationa
l Certificate of Airworthiness
are welcome to the airspace of said countries without further ado.
For some reason I plum forgot to ask the Belgians, and I never thought of a
sking the Belgian authorities
of a special permission, let alone imagined a special fee to desecrate Belg
ian soil when, in blissful ignorance,
I ventured there.
And lo and behold: never heard a word of reproach, neither received a bill
for my apparent misdemeanour.
You can draw your own conclusions from that.
Niels Kock
OY-ODA
By the way: did you know that ODA is up for sale=3F
-and not for any fault of her own.
Interested parties may email me, of course.
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Subject: | 912 rubber components. |
Roger confirms that the transparent pipe supplied by Europa has not been
PVC since 1998. I do not remember the exact material now used. If your
pipe is pre 1998 then make sure it is changed.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours
Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com
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Subject: | Re: 912 rubber components. |
One of the clear tubing types replacing all PVC tubing on homebuilts is ' Polyurethane
without
plasticisers' - sometimes known as 'Blue Urethane'.
Following a fuel supply accident to a gyroplane the CAA issued mandatory permit
directive
1998-019 requiring inspection and possible replacement of flexible plastic tubing
on all Permit
aircraft.( I placed a copy in my manual)
At the time I'm fairly sure Europa sent a coil of the new tubing to all builders
of earlier
kits.
Gerry Cole, no121
----- Original Message -----
From: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:50 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: 912 rubber components.
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>
> Roger confirms that the transparent pipe supplied by Europa has not been
> PVC since 1998. I do not remember the exact material now used. If your
> pipe is pre 1998 then make sure it is changed.
>
> Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours
> Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
> e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
> or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com
>
>
>
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Subject: | 912 rubber components. |
I was under the impression that its Tygon unless somebody knows better,
Roger confirms that the transparent pipe supplied by Europa has not been
PVC since 1998. I do not remember the exact material now used. If your
pipe is pre 1998 then make sure it is changed.
Ivor
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Subject: | Schengen Cross Border Flights |
Many thanks for your collective thoughts on crossing borders between
Schengen agreement states. I liked Jean Philippe Neel's the best!, so
will take that as gospel. I am aware that it is necessary to get
permission from the Spanish DGCA for UK Permit type aircraft and am
wondering if anyone has obtained an e-mail address, as my fax machine
has long since died. I have tried dgac@formento.es but no reply to
date.
Brian Tarmar G-OBJT
I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html
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Subject: | Re: Schengen Cross Border Flights |
Very interesting messages. But why do we have to look at advertising for spam software?
Can you folks please clean your act and get rid of this probably unintended
advertising?
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen.
ps, usually if you pay for what you use, you do not have to advertise for the product!
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Subject: | Re: 912 rubber components. |
Does anyone know how to tell the difference, based on melting point. The
urethane stuff has a higher melting point than the PVC. So, for example one
will melt on a medium iron whereas the other won't??
Previously it was possible to differentiate on the elasticity/hysteresis of
a sample, but no they seem very similar (or PVC is being labelled commonly
as urethane!).
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:50 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: 912 rubber components.
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>
> Roger confirms that the transparent pipe supplied by Europa has not been
> PVC since 1998. I do not remember the exact material now used. If your
> pipe is pre 1998 then make sure it is changed.
>
> Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours
> Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
> e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
> or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: 912 rubber components. |
PVC needs a plasticizer to be flexible (afaik) Gasolene tends to leach
out the plasticiser causing embrittlement. (My guess) PU does not, the
polymer can be modified to many elasticity values. Also there are
polyether Urethanes and polyester ones. The latter are better quality
and less susceptible to hydrolysis.
Graham
Duncan & Ami McFadyean wrote:
> <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> Does anyone know how to tell the difference, based on melting point. The
> urethane stuff has a higher melting point than the PVC. So, for example
> one will melt on a medium iron whereas the other won't??
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