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     1. 08:49 AM - Re: Conventional Tail Wheel Conversion (Venu Rao)
     2. 09:35 AM - Europa Black Sea Trip 20-30 August (David Joyce)
     3. 01:11 PM - Re: Conventional Tail Wheel Conversion (Ian Mansfeld)
     4. 02:46 PM -  Re: Conventional Tail Wheel Conversion (josok)
     5. 02:55 PM - Four New Email Lists At Matronics!!  (Matt Dralle)
     6. 03:50 PM - External door handles (craig bastin)
     7. 05:24 PM - External door handles (Fred Klein)
     8. 06:23 PM - Re: External door handles (Ralph K. Hallett III)
     9. 06:42 PM - Re: External door handles (craig bastin)
    10. 08:24 PM - Re: External door handles (Fred Klein)
    11. 08:53 PM - Re: External door handles (David Glauser)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Conventional Tail Wheel Conversion | 
      
      
      Thanks Paul - a "lurker" on this forum who was also wondering...
      still haven't transitioned to the mono and have my concerns
      as a very low time pilot.
      
      Cheers,
      Venu Rao
      Austin, Texas
      A058 - Flying
      Built by Jim Nelson
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=179337#179337
      
      
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| Subject:  | Europa Black Sea Trip 20-30 August | 
      
      
      It would be very helpful if anyone contemplating joining this trip would get 
      in contact with me now, even if not certain of coming. Regards, David Joyce, 
      G-XSDJ 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Conventional Tail Wheel Conversion | 
      
      
      I had mine converted about 3 years ago - best move ever (other than the VP prop
      of course...). It just looks so nice. 
      
      I had tailwheel experience and a good check out, but I was never happy balancing
      on that monowheel. As my instructor said, its not a matter of IF you will groundloop
      it, just WHEN. It might be 40 hours or 400... The defining moment came
      when it was parked out overnight and I had a phone call from the airfield to
      come back as 'something had happened' - it turned out that a wing leg had collapsed
      while parked! Who wants an aircraft that can't even stay upright while
      standing still! 
      
      With a pair of Duncans lightweight leg fairings, there was no loss of performance.
      By fitting a set of wheel pants,  I probably only gained 3-4 knots but it
      looks way better. (I used the trigear mains, which looked huge out of the box
      but when fitted look in proportion. I have had many complementary comments about
      how right it looks as a taildragger). 
      
      And of course ground handling is as easy as any other taildragger. I have handled
      15knot crosswinds with no issues (on grass) and the limit is me rather than
      the aircraft. I self-limit to 12knots crosswind if out of practice for a while.
      
      
      Ian.
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=179373#179373
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Conventional Tail Wheel Conversion | 
      
      
      Sorry, can't resist, have to take this one on. 
      There seems to be some guarantee that conventional and tri-gear landings will always
      be soft and happy. But i can't find any statistics that point in that direction.
      As a matter of fact, the numbers add up quite differently. And also so
      far, i have seen more bent trigear legs then tail wheel damage. 
      
      My instructors remark about ground looping was made while during circuits in a
      super cup, and it went like: "There are tail wheel pilots that have ground looped
      and there are tail wheel pilots that will do it"  He had never seen a mono.
      Now, after some 300 landings in my mono, i am pretty sure that someday i will
      make the have done class.  And i will stay in that "done that be there" class,
      and blame my own lack lack of proficiency, and not the aircraft. Let alone
      i change it to something else. 
      So far the worst landing were when i got confident in nice weather, and the most
      feared +15 knots crosswind and gusting went off like a dream. 
      Makes sense, at least to me. 
      But let there be more airplanes then opinions, and everybody will be happy. 
      
      Regards,
      
      Jos Okhuijsen
      
      
      Visit -  www.EuropaOwners.org
      
      
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| Subject:  | Four New Email Lists At Matronics!!  | 
      
      
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| Subject:  | External door handles | 
      
      
      
      Just wondering if anyone has done anything special with their door handles
      with regard
      to steamlining. I was looking at the flush mount ones from ACS that are used
      on the liberty
      but worry they will be too deep to fit in the door. I was thinking that a
      blended fillet
      starting at the front of the door coming out about 20mm high and deep then
      blending back in about 2/3 the
      way along the door with the handle set into this so it is effectively flush
      with the skin of the door.
      I have seen the "aerofoil" shaped handles which would be my next choice.
      
      regards
      
      craig
      
      Checked by AVG.
      2:31 PM
      
      
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| Subject:  | External door handles | 
      
      > <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
      >
      > Just wondering if anyone has done anything special with their door 
      > handles
      > with regard to steamlining.
      
      Craig...I thought someone would never ask...see pixs below
      
      Fred
      A194
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: External door handles | 
      
      
      Fred,
      One beautiful job you've done there. I will be using you're design :)
      Ralph
      mg xs
      Reno, NV
      
      Fred Klein wrote:
      >> <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
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      >> Just wondering if anyone has done anything special with their door 
      >> handles
      >> with regard to steamlining.
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| Subject:  | External door handles | 
      
      
      I take it you havnt painted your bird yet, I just wonder if it might wear
      the paint where the handle rubs the skin,or do you have a plan
      with regard to that, other than that it looks good, and self locking which
      is a bonus
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fred Klein
      Sent: Sunday, 27 April 2008 10:20 AM
      Subject: Europa-List: External door handles
      
      
      > <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
      >
      > Just wondering if anyone has done anything special with their door
      > handles
      > with regard to steamlining.
      
      Craig...I thought someone would never ask...see pixs below
      
      Fred
      A194
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: External door handles | 
      
      
      
      On Saturday, Apr 26, 2008, at 18:40 US/Pacific, craig bastin wrote:
      
      > I just wonder if it might wear the paint where the handle rubs the 
      > skin,or do you have a plan
      > with regard to that
      
      Craig,
      
      Yes, that's a concern...still scratchin my head about it...expect to 
      find something superslick to coat the edges...maybe silicone, 
      teflon...any ideas?
      
      Figured that was solvable and I liked the fillet w/ no gap for 
      moisture, lack of draginess...
      
      (definition of "draginess": same relation to drag as "truthiness" has 
      to truth; i.e., it wants to have the appearance of minimal drag, it may 
      not however, though overall, it probably makes no difference,)
      
      cheers,
      
      Fred
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: External door handles | 
      
      
      How about an ultra-low friction plastic? McMaster-Carr has PTFE in
      adhesive backed sheets in a variety of thicknesses. see page 3507 (!)
      of the catalog. Or should I say catalogue?
      
      David
      
      On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
      >
      >
      > On Saturday, Apr 26, 2008, at 18:40 US/Pacific, craig bastin wrote:
      >
      > > I just wonder if it might wear the paint where the handle rubs the skin,or
      > do you have a plan
      > > with regard to that
      > >
      >
      > Craig,
      >
      > Yes, that's a concern...still scratchin my head about it...expect to find
      > something superslick to coat the edges...maybe silicone, teflon...any ideas?
      >
      > Figured that was solvable and I liked the fillet w/ no gap for moisture,
      > lack of draginess...
      >
      > (definition of "draginess": same relation to drag as "truthiness" has to
      > truth; i.e., it wants to have the appearance of minimal drag, it may not
      > however, though overall, it probably makes no difference,)
      >
      > cheers,
      >
      > Fred
      >
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