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1. 08:49 AM - Re: Conventional Tail Wheel Conversion (Venu Rao)
2. 09:35 AM - Europa Black Sea Trip 20-30 August (David Joyce)
3. 01:11 PM - Re: Conventional Tail Wheel Conversion (Ian Mansfeld)
4. 02:46 PM - Re: Conventional Tail Wheel Conversion (josok)
5. 02:55 PM - Four New Email Lists At Matronics!! (Matt Dralle)
6. 03:50 PM - External door handles (craig bastin)
7. 05:24 PM - External door handles (Fred Klein)
8. 06:23 PM - Re: External door handles (Ralph K. Hallett III)
9. 06:42 PM - Re: External door handles (craig bastin)
10. 08:24 PM - Re: External door handles (Fred Klein)
11. 08:53 PM - Re: External door handles (David Glauser)
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Subject: | Re: Conventional Tail Wheel Conversion |
Thanks Paul - a "lurker" on this forum who was also wondering...
still haven't transitioned to the mono and have my concerns
as a very low time pilot.
Cheers,
Venu Rao
Austin, Texas
A058 - Flying
Built by Jim Nelson
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Subject: | Europa Black Sea Trip 20-30 August |
It would be very helpful if anyone contemplating joining this trip would get
in contact with me now, even if not certain of coming. Regards, David Joyce,
G-XSDJ
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Subject: | Re: Conventional Tail Wheel Conversion |
I had mine converted about 3 years ago - best move ever (other than the VP prop
of course...). It just looks so nice.
I had tailwheel experience and a good check out, but I was never happy balancing
on that monowheel. As my instructor said, its not a matter of IF you will groundloop
it, just WHEN. It might be 40 hours or 400... The defining moment came
when it was parked out overnight and I had a phone call from the airfield to
come back as 'something had happened' - it turned out that a wing leg had collapsed
while parked! Who wants an aircraft that can't even stay upright while
standing still!
With a pair of Duncans lightweight leg fairings, there was no loss of performance.
By fitting a set of wheel pants, I probably only gained 3-4 knots but it
looks way better. (I used the trigear mains, which looked huge out of the box
but when fitted look in proportion. I have had many complementary comments about
how right it looks as a taildragger).
And of course ground handling is as easy as any other taildragger. I have handled
15knot crosswinds with no issues (on grass) and the limit is me rather than
the aircraft. I self-limit to 12knots crosswind if out of practice for a while.
Ian.
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Subject: | Re: Conventional Tail Wheel Conversion |
Sorry, can't resist, have to take this one on.
There seems to be some guarantee that conventional and tri-gear landings will always
be soft and happy. But i can't find any statistics that point in that direction.
As a matter of fact, the numbers add up quite differently. And also so
far, i have seen more bent trigear legs then tail wheel damage.
My instructors remark about ground looping was made while during circuits in a
super cup, and it went like: "There are tail wheel pilots that have ground looped
and there are tail wheel pilots that will do it" He had never seen a mono.
Now, after some 300 landings in my mono, i am pretty sure that someday i will
make the have done class. And i will stay in that "done that be there" class,
and blame my own lack lack of proficiency, and not the aircraft. Let alone
i change it to something else.
So far the worst landing were when i got confident in nice weather, and the most
feared +15 knots crosswind and gusting went off like a dream.
Makes sense, at least to me.
But let there be more airplanes then opinions, and everybody will be happy.
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Subject: | Four New Email Lists At Matronics!! |
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Subject: | External door handles |
Just wondering if anyone has done anything special with their door handles
with regard
to steamlining. I was looking at the flush mount ones from ACS that are used
on the liberty
but worry they will be too deep to fit in the door. I was thinking that a
blended fillet
starting at the front of the door coming out about 20mm high and deep then
blending back in about 2/3 the
way along the door with the handle set into this so it is effectively flush
with the skin of the door.
I have seen the "aerofoil" shaped handles which would be my next choice.
regards
craig
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Subject: | External door handles |
> <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
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Craig...I thought someone would never ask...see pixs below
Fred
A194
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Subject: | Re: External door handles |
Fred,
One beautiful job you've done there. I will be using you're design :)
Ralph
mg xs
Reno, NV
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Subject: | External door handles |
I take it you havnt painted your bird yet, I just wonder if it might wear
the paint where the handle rubs the skin,or do you have a plan
with regard to that, other than that it looks good, and self locking which
is a bonus
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Subject: Europa-List: External door handles
> <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
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> Just wondering if anyone has done anything special with their door
> handles
> with regard to steamlining.
Craig...I thought someone would never ask...see pixs below
Fred
A194
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Subject: | Re: External door handles |
On Saturday, Apr 26, 2008, at 18:40 US/Pacific, craig bastin wrote:
> I just wonder if it might wear the paint where the handle rubs the
> skin,or do you have a plan
> with regard to that
Craig,
Yes, that's a concern...still scratchin my head about it...expect to
find something superslick to coat the edges...maybe silicone,
teflon...any ideas?
Figured that was solvable and I liked the fillet w/ no gap for
moisture, lack of draginess...
(definition of "draginess": same relation to drag as "truthiness" has
to truth; i.e., it wants to have the appearance of minimal drag, it may
not however, though overall, it probably makes no difference,)
cheers,
Fred
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Subject: | Re: External door handles |
How about an ultra-low friction plastic? McMaster-Carr has PTFE in
adhesive backed sheets in a variety of thicknesses. see page 3507 (!)
of the catalog. Or should I say catalogue?
David
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 8:20 PM, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
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> On Saturday, Apr 26, 2008, at 18:40 US/Pacific, craig bastin wrote:
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> > I just wonder if it might wear the paint where the handle rubs the skin,or
> do you have a plan
> > with regard to that
> >
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> Craig,
>
> Yes, that's a concern...still scratchin my head about it...expect to find
> something superslick to coat the edges...maybe silicone, teflon...any ideas?
>
> Figured that was solvable and I liked the fillet w/ no gap for moisture,
> lack of draginess...
>
> (definition of "draginess": same relation to drag as "truthiness" has to
> truth; i.e., it wants to have the appearance of minimal drag, it may not
> however, though overall, it probably makes no difference,)
>
> cheers,
>
> Fred
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