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1. 04:05 AM - Re: Door bulge because of seal (Karl Heindl)
2. 05:09 AM - Re: Door bulge because of seal (craig bastin)
3. 05:37 AM - Re: Mod 72 reamer (david miller)
4. 07:48 AM - Re: Conventional tail dragger conversion - Help Needed (Ralph K. Hallett III)
5. 11:08 AM - Re: Door bulge because of seal (h&jeuropa)
6. 11:13 AM - Re: Fuel tank - bulges and leakage. (h&jeuropa)
7. 11:19 AM - Fuel Sight Gague Tubing (h&jeuropa)
8. 01:09 PM - Re: Door bulge because of seal (Raimo Toivio)
9. 01:09 PM - Re: Setting the wing incidence (William Daniell)
10. 01:35 PM - Re: Re : Refueling (Rotax) (Raimo Toivio)
11. 02:48 PM - Re: Re: Door bulge because of seal (craig bastin)
12. 05:13 PM - Re: Door bulge because of seal (Paul McAllister)
13. 06:38 PM - Re: Re: Door bulge because of seal (Karl Heindl)
14. 06:52 PM - Re: Mod 72 reamer (europaman)
15. 07:05 PM - Re: Door bulge because of seal (europaman)
16. 07:13 PM - Re: Switch for Hobbs. (europaman)
17. 07:34 PM - Re: Mod 72 reamer (Ralph K. Hallett III)
18. 08:19 PM - Re: Re: Door bulge because of seal (craig bastin)
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| Subject: | Door bulge because of seal |
Craig,
The seals are too thick for the doors, a problem with a number of builders.
Even if you didn't have a bulge, it is unlikely that you would be able to
close the door from the inside.
Simple solution is to replace the bottom half appr. of the seal with one of
a slghtly smaller diameter.
The source would be from a company that supplies upholstery bits to people
who do restoration of automobiles. If you find one, ask first for a sample.
Karl
<html><div></div>> From: craigb@onthenet.com.au> To: europa-list@ma
tronics.com> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Door bulge because of seal> Date: Th
astin" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>> > without the seals the doors are sweet, n
ice and true, flush all round, its> only now the seal is on, that the door
bulges,> its almost like the seal is too hard and is deforming the door.> >
craig> > -----Original Message-----> From: owner-europa-list-server@matron
ics.com> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fred K
lein> Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2008 1:01 PM> To: europa-list@matronics.com> Su
bject: Re: Europa-List: Door bulge because of seal> > > --> Europa-List mes
sage posted by: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>> > > On Wednesday, May
7, 2008, at 18:08 US/Pacific, craig bastin wrote:> >> > Can anyone tell me
if they had issues with the doors bulging because> > of the> > seals> > the
doors bulge about 5mm in the middle because of the door seals.> > Craig,>
> Both my doors bulge about 3 mm at the center of the lower edge; this is>
w/o the seals or plexi.> I've yet to do a trial fit with the seals.> > Bud
Yerly advised use of a heat gun to reduce the bow and eliminate the> bulge,
saying that proper fit before installing glass is essential,> otherwise ge
tting proper fit WITH the glass is quite difficult.> > Fred> > > --> This m
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| Subject: | Door bulge because of seal |
Thanks for that karl,
After talking to kingsley again, he mentioned the same, given that I was
only supplied enough
seal for one door not both, I will have to buy some more regardless. I am
thinking I will also do the shoulder width
increase at the same time, and get a seal suitable for that, as you
mentioned about closing the doors, they are hard to get
closed from the outside with the seal on. Without a second handle at the
back I doubt it would be possible from the inside.
craig
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Karl Heindl
Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2008 9:01 PM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Door bulge because of seal
Craig,
The seals are too thick for the doors, a problem with a number of
builders. Even if you didn't have a bulge, it is unlikely that you would be
able to close the door from the inside.
Simple solution is to replace the bottom half appr. of the seal with one
of a slghtly smaller diameter.
The source would be from a company that supplies upholstery bits to people
who do restoration of automobiles. If you find one, ask first for a sample.
Karl
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> From: craigb@onthenet.com.au
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Door bulge because of seal
> Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:37:39 +1000
>
<craigb@onthenet.com.au>
>
> without the seals the doors are sweet, nice and true, flush all round,
its
> only now the seal is on, that the door bulges,
> its almost like the seal is too hard and is deforming the door.
>
> craig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fred Klein
> Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2008 1:01 PM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Door bulge because of seal
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> On Wednesday, May 7, 2008, at 18:08 US/Pacific, craig bastin wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone tell me if they had issues with the doors bulging because
> > of the
> > seals
> > the doors bulge about 5mm in the middle because of the door seals.
>
> Craig,
>
> Both my doors bulge about 3 mm at the center of the lower edge; this is
> w/o the seals or plexi.
> I've yet to do a trial fit with the seals.
>
> Bud Yerly advised use of a heat gun to reduce the bow and eliminate the
> bulge, saying that proper fit before installing glass is essential,
> otherwise getting proper fit WITH the glass is quite difficult.
>
> Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Mod 72 reamer |
Fred,
I have one ( in Ontario), will send it if you wish.
Dave
On 7-May-08, at 11:27 PM, Fred Klein wrote:
>
> As I recall, a couple of youse guys in the states have offered the
> use of a 16.5 mm reamer. If so, please put my name on the list and
> let me know when one might be available to a builder. No pressing
> need, but I've got my inserts and would like to install when
> retrofits to flying aircraft are completed.
>
> thanks,
>
> Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Conventional tail dragger conversion - Help Needed |
Paul,
Would you send me the contact information needed for the conversion. I
too am thinking of changing to a tail dragger.
Thank you,
Ralph
Reno, NV
Paul McAllister wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Some of you may recall from my previous postings that I intend to
> convert my mono to a tail dragger. I got the conversion kit from Bob
> Berbue about a month ago and I have decided that I will fly this
> summer and then over winter I will do the conversion.
>
> I am slowly organizing all the bits I need and I was wondering if some
> generous soul would be prepared to lend me the moulding that fits on
> the tunnel for the finger brakes, and the aluminum hardware that is
> used for mounting up the Matco master cylinders. I'd like make a
> splash copy of the moulding and return it as soon as I am finished.
>
> If anyone in the US can help me I'd appreciate it. Obviously I would
> cover any out of pocket expenses. Please contact me off forum if you
> can help.
>
> Thanks and regards, Paul
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Door bulge because of seal |
Craig,
We had a similar experience. Fitted our doors beautifully and then put on the
seal and could hardly close them. Advice was to get them closed and let the plane
sit in the sun so that the fiberglas could attain the proper shape. It took
awhile, but today they fit fine - perhaps a little bulge in the center but
they are easy to close and are water tight. I think I would try this before
other suggestions, since if you make the fit looser now, it may end up not being
water tight later. Just a thought.
Jim & Heather
N241BW
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank - bulges and leakage. |
Just a data point on this discussion. Our Europa first flew in Oct 2005. After
a ground loop in Sept 2006 the fuel tank has been empty during repair. I filled
it this week and have no leaks.
Granted, our climate is much cooler than some. The empty tank probably never saw
ambient temps in excess of 80 deg F.
This is kit A185 which was delivered May 2000. We screwed up the install of the
fuel tank initially and got a replacement tank from Lakeland in Sept 2000.
My guess is it was from a kit on hand.
Tank has only had MoGas in it, no 100LL.
I have no idea why ours is OK and others have split, but I'm glad it turned out
that way!
Jim & Heather
B241BW
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| Subject: | Fuel Sight Gague Tubing |
During the repair of our Europa, I replaced the fuel system tubing and sight gauge
tubing which was original. It was getting hard and discolored. I used Tygon
F4040 tubing which the data sheet says is gasoline tolerent.
After doing all that, I had reason to inspect a section of Tygon F4040 that serves
as the siphon hose in the main fuel tank when the Europa Aux fuel tank is
fitted. That Tygon was discolored and quite hard after being in place for a couple
of years. This is making me wonder about my use of it elsewhere in the
fuel system.
What tubing have others used with success for fuel tank venting and fuel sight
gauge?
Thanks
Jim & Heather
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| Subject: | Re: Door bulge because of seal |
That=B4s true.
I changed the seals thinner and made them even thinner from the critical
area (lower section between the shoot bolts). I also gave some heat gun
to refoam the doors. They still keep water and noise well out.
And closes like BMW=B4s doors.
It was possible to use original seals but the doors were extremely
difficult to close when seated. Plus I was totally worried about locking
mechanism stresses when closing the handle. And they were bulging ugly.
Third shoot bolt would be ideal against bulging but decided personally
it to be too complicated. Later I understood there would be also an
other easier way to pull the door=B4s lower middle section inside ja
keep it there.
I have also noticed it to be good to keep them normally closed. The
seals get used to be flat.
Raimo
OH-XRT Europa XS Mono #417
The Experimental of The Year 2007
37500 Lempaala
Finland
tel + 358 3 3753 777
fax + 358 3 3753 100
gsm + 358 40 590 1450
raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
www.rwm.fi
http://mmniemi.aviation.fi/jami_07/europa/
----- Original Message -----
From: Karl Heindl
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 2:00 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Door bulge because of seal
Craig,
The seals are too thick for the doors, a problem with a number of
builders. Even if you didn't have a bulge, it is unlikely that you would
be able to close the door from the inside.
Simple solution is to replace the bottom half appr. of the seal with
one of a slghtly smaller diameter.
The source would be from a company that supplies upholstery bits to
people who do restoration of automobiles. If you find one, ask first for
a sample.
Karl
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> From: craigb@onthenet.com.au
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Door bulge because of seal
> Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 13:37:39 +1000
>
<craigb@onthenet.com.au>
>
> without the seals the doors are sweet, nice and true, flush all
round, its
> only now the seal is on, that the door bulges,
> its almost like the seal is too hard and is deforming the door.
>
> craig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fred
Klein
> Sent: Thursday, 8 May 2008 1:01 PM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Door bulge because of seal
>
>
<fklein@orcasonline.com>
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 7, 2008, at 18:08 US/Pacific, craig bastin wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone tell me if they had issues with the doors bulging
because
> > of the
> > seals
> > the doors bulge about 5mm in the middle because of the door seals.
>
> Craig,
>
> Both my doors bulge about 3 mm at the center of the lower edge; this
is
> w/o the seals or plexi.
> I've yet to do a trial fit with the seals.
>
> Bud Yerly advised use of a heat gun to reduce the bow and eliminate
the
> bulge, saying that proper fit before installing glass is essential,
> otherwise getting proper fit WITH the glass is quite difficult.
>
> Fred
>
>
> --
> This message has been scanned for viruses and
> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is
> believed to be clean.
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| Subject: | Setting the wing incidence |
Thanks sounds good advice thanks
Will
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Graham
Singleton
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 18:28
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Setting the wing incidence
<grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
He's right Willaim.!
When you set the incidence of the second wing, check the incidence at
the outer end of the flap on the first, then match the incidence of the
second wing at the same point to that. The incidence at the root doesn't
affect roll much but further out on the wing it does! That way you
compensate for any mismatch in the twist of the two wings.
Graham
William Daniell wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Re : Refueling (Rotax) |
Hi John
How do you know if you have ALWAYS used 100LL?
OK - "unhappy" was maybe too strong expression.
Anyway - my engines sound is much more harsh /coarse w 100LL.
And changeing oils every 25 hrs is annouing.
Typical new cars oil change interval is about 400 - 500 hrs.
Despite that I do not carry any canister with me. I am too lazy to do that!
That means I use mogas only when refueling in my homebase EFTP.
If landing to any other airport - 100LL goes to the tank.
In my case it is maybe 50-50 and so I am a mixed user and oil changes will be in
every 37,5 hrs...
> I also had problems with fuel coming from the breather vent during
> filling.
I have learnt to have a feeling just before it comes out.
I can hear like giants breathing and then it is time to have a little break.
With my new electric refueling aid no problem any more.
I push the filler tube to the bottom of the tank and that makes the trick.
John, you will have a 1000 hrs cake in the year 2012.
That means more than 125 000 miles behind you - five times around the ball!
The weather just now here in Finland cannot be better.
Kippis and thanks, Raimo
----- Original Message -----
From: "John & Paddy Wigney" <johnwigney@alltel.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 5:52 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re : Refueling (Rotax)
>
> Hi Raimo,
>
> I am sorry to hear that your 912S is unhappy with 100LL. This is a bit
> surprising for me as I have always used 100LL from Day 1 with no
> problems. First flight was in Dec. 2001 and I now have 590 hours. Only
> engine issue in that time has been a broken wire on an ignition system
> connector which caused a problem on one magneto.
>
> However, I have always used a fuel additive to prevent lead build up. I
> first used TCP http://www.alcorinc.com/fuel-treatment/product-07-07.php
> and now use Decalin http://www.decalinchemicals.com/fueladditive.html
> additive. I see that TCP has problems with shipping now since the
> solvent they use is toxic. TCP and Decalin have the same active
> component, Tri Cresyl Phosphate, but Decalin has a benign solvent so it
> can be carried in a plane. Decalin can be bought from Aircraft Spruce
> http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/Decalin.php . I add 15 ml
> of Decalin per 10 US gallons of fuel.
>
> This routine seems to work well. I check the plugs at 50 hours and
> change them at 100 hours as per Rotax recommendation; they are always in
> good condition with no build up of lead. I also use Valvoline Durablend
> 10W-40 semi-synthetic oil (approved by Rotax). This oil picks up lead in
> suspension and I get no deposit of lead sludge in the oil tank.
>
> I also had problems with fuel coming from the breather vent during
> filling. I fixed this by installing a larger diameter vent tube which
> tees into the filler neck. The larger vent tube permits full flow
> filling without backup. A small diameter tube goes from the filler neck
> to the original fuselage top vent.
>
> Hope the weather is warming up nicely for you.
>
> Cheers, John
> N262WF, mono XS, 912S
> Mooresville, North Carolina
>
> ORIGINAL MESSAGE
> /From: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
> Subject: Europa-List: Refueling (Rotax)
>
> All The Europa Refuelers,
> I do not like to use 100LL (w Rotax).
> That makes my engine (912S) unhappy, really.
>
> So - if possible - I carry Mogas to the airfield.
> That is not fun. I really hate it, to refuel it.
> Same time, I do love to pump Cessna by 100LL.
> More unfun is to refuel Europa by *normal* way because
> - a canister is heavy to keep up
> - it takes a long time to refuel even 60 litres = 3 cans
> - it is unsafe for refueler=B4s health to be near when refueling
> - there is a possibility [because of the contact between can and plane]
> to flame and burn whole Europa and maybe your *whole life work*
> - when almost full, it tends to come some fuel out from breathing tube
> I think most of the problems are out w attached equipment. As you see
> there is also for extra safety a real Europa fuel filter (they are extra
> for me because I use one piece solid ones). In my case the fuel pump is
> a cheap one - only 1,5 litres /minute - but so there is a good time to
> check the plane! The power is taken from the `Jump Start` as in the pic
> OR from my Europas EPS (External Power Source).
> It took only 10 minutes to make this idea to live in Today.
> Raimo
> OH-XRT Europa XS Mono #417
> The Experimental of The Year 2007
> 37500 Lempaala
> Finland
> tel + 358 3 3753 777
> fax + 358 3 3753 100
> gsm + 358 40 590 1450
> raimo.toivio@rwm.fi
> www.rwm.fi
> http://mmniemi.aviation.fi/jami_07/europa//
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Door bulge because of seal |
Thanks jim
Only problem with that idea is it's almost winter, and I would be waiting
about 8 months
for something to happen :( and as i mentioned i wasnt supplied enough seal
to do both doors
anyway. I think i will try and get a seal that is a good compromise and then
fill the side
a little so its flush with the door. If i have to change the door seals
again later after
she is flying then its no big deal.
craig
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
h&jeuropa
Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 4:05 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Door bulge because of seal
Craig,
We had a similar experience. Fitted our doors beautifully and then put on
the seal and could hardly close them. Advice was to get them closed and let
the plane sit in the sun so that the fiberglas could attain the proper
shape. It took awhile, but today they fit fine - perhaps a little bulge in
the center but they are easy to close and are water tight. I think I would
try this before other suggestions, since if you make the fit looser now, it
may end up not being water tight later. Just a thought.
Jim & Heather
N241BW
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| Subject: | Re: Door bulge because of seal |
Hi all,
Does any one in the US know the source and part number for a thinner
door seal. Mine is okay but it is difficult to close the door from
the inside on the pilots side.
Thanks, Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Door bulge because of seal |
Craig,
You are right. Anyways, if you only change the bottom half, then there is
no chance of rain getting in.
At least, I never noticed it. However, rain does get in via the screw threa
ds of the door hinges, unless you seal them in some way.
Are you sure about the width increase mod ? I considered it and decided aga
inst it after measuring a completed width increase. The actual increase was
minimal, it is an awful lot of work, and costs more money. I am not exactl
y a midget, and I have made quite a few long flights without any discomfort
whatsoever.
Keep it simple, man, and get airborne.
Karl<html><div></div>> From: craigb@onthenet.com.au> To: europa-list
@matronics.com> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Door bulge because of seal> D
craig bastin" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>> > Thanks jim> > Only problem with t
hat idea is it's almost winter, and I would be waiting> about 8 months> for
something to happen :( and as i mentioned i wasnt supplied enough seal> to
do both doors> anyway. I think i will try and get a seal that is a good co
mpromise and then> fill the side> a little so its flush with the door. If i
have to change the door seals> again later after> she is flying then its n
o big deal.> > craig> > Do Not Archive> > -----Original Message-----> From:
owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@m
atronics.com]On Behalf Of> h&jeuropa> Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 4:05 AM>
To: europa-list@matronics.com> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Door bulge becaus
3@att.net>> > Craig,> > We had a similar experience. Fitted our doors beaut
ifully and then put on> the seal and could hardly close them. Advice was to
get them closed and let> the plane sit in the sun so that the fiberglas co
uld attain the proper> shape. It took awhile, but today they fit fine - per
haps a little bulge in> the center but they are easy to close and are water
tight. I think I would> try this before other suggestions, since if you ma
ke the fit looser now, it> may end up not being water tight later. Just a t
hought.> > Jim & Heather> N241BW> > > > > Read this topic online here:> > h
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| Subject: | Re: Mod 72 reamer |
Fred,
I have one that has been passed around here in the US. It came to me from Kevin
Klinefellner I think. I don't know who the owner is. Give me your ship to address
and I will forward.
Troy Maynor
wingnut54@charter.net
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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| Subject: | Re: Door bulge because of seal |
Paul and all,
I have been looking at some in McMaster Carr. Haven't decided on a size yet. Probably
a 7/16" diameter bulb. I had a small piece of 3/8" diameter bulb section
and it sealed all areas except the rear area adjacent to the lift strut. I don't
have the stock numbers at hand at the moment that I was considering but I
can post them tomorrow.
Troy Maynor
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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| Subject: | Re: Switch for Hobbs. |
Mike,
Aeroelectric sells a double throw oil pressure switch you can connect up that when
engine is not running turns on an oil light LED for a Master Switch left on
warning, and flips the other way when engine is running to operate a hobbs.
FWIW......Not flying yet so can't vouch, but that's my plan.
Troy Maynor
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| Subject: | Re: Mod 72 reamer |
The reamer belongs to me, but I am happy to have it floating around to
whoever needs it.
Ralph
RK Hallett III
Reno, NV
europaman wrote:
>
> Fred,
> I have one that has been passed around here in the US. It came to me from Kevin
Klinefellner I think. I don't know who the owner is. Give me your ship to address
and I will forward.
> Troy Maynor
> wingnut54@charter.net
>
>
> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Door bulge because of seal |
I managed to find a seal suitable at a strut rebuilding place of all the
places, the seal seems ideal, it is a square section
instead of round, and is compressed about 50% all the way round, instead of
crushed flat like the supplied one. The offset
is slightly less than original so i will have to sand a couple of mm from
the lip of the frame so it looks neat when the door is closed.
if it is from UK or US I will get a part number and post it for those
interested
craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Karl Heindl
Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 11:31 AM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Door bulge because of seal
Craig,
You are right. Anyways, if you only change the bottom half, then there is
no chance of rain getting in.
At least, I never noticed it. However, rain does get in via the screw
threads of the door hinges, unless you seal them in some way.
Are you sure about the width increase mod ? I considered it and decided
against it after measuring a completed width increase. The actual increase
was minimal, it is an awful lot of work, and costs more money. I am not
exactly a midget, and I have made quite a few long flights without any
discomfort whatsoever.
Keep it simple, man, and get airborne.
Karl
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> From: craigb@onthenet.com.au
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Door bulge because of seal
> Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 07:45:06 +1000
>
<craigb@onthenet.com.au>
>
> Thanks jim
>
> Only problem with that idea is it's almost winter, and I would be
waiting
> about 8 months
> for something to happen :( and as i mentioned i wasnt supplied enough
seal
> to do both doors
> anyway. I think i will try and get a seal that is a good compromise and
then
> fill the side
> a little so its flush with the door. If i have to change the door seals
> again later after
> she is flying then its no big deal.
>
> craig
>
> Do Not Archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> h&jeuropa
> Sent: Friday, 9 May 2008 4:05 AM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Door bulge because of seal
>
>
>
> Craig,
>
> We had a similar experience. Fitted our doors beautifully and then put
on
> the seal and could hardly close them. Advice was to get them closed and
let
> the plane sit in the sun so that the fiberglas could attain the proper
> shape. It took awhile, but today they fit fine - perhaps a little bulge
in
> the center but they are easy to close and are water tight. I think I
would
> try this before other suggestions, since if you make the fit looser now,
it
> may end up not being water tight later. Just a thought.
>
> Jim & Heather
> N241BW
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=181959#181959
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> 5:23 PM
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