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1. 12:31 AM - Re: wheel nuts (R Holder)
2. 12:48 AM - Re: wheel nuts (G-IANI)
3. 01:35 AM - Re: wheel nuts (craig bastin)
4. 01:43 AM - Re: wheel nuts (craig bastin)
5. 02:32 AM - Re: wheel nuts (Graham Singleton)
6. 02:52 AM - Re: wheel nuts (craig bastin)
7. 05:00 AM - Re: Off Topic - Situational Awareness ??? (Robert Borger)
8. 05:36 AM - Firewall Forward inventory (flyingphil2)
9. 08:16 AM - Warp Drive tapered propeller blades (Jonathan Milbank)
10. 08:24 AM - Warp Drive tapered propeller blades (2) (Jonathan Milbank)
11. 09:00 AM - Re: Airspeed details ()
12. 09:20 AM - Re: Drilled brake Rotors (disks) ()
13. 10:28 AM - Re: wheel nuts (Graham Singleton)
14. 11:17 AM - Re: Drilled brake Rotors (disks) (Duncan & Ami McFadyean)
15. 12:47 PM - ground clearance (Fred Klein)
16. 01:58 PM - Re: Drilled brake Rotors (disks) (craig bastin)
17. 03:39 PM - Bank card (Graham Singleton)
18. 03:53 PM - Re: Drilled brake Rotors (disks) (karelvranken)
19. 04:14 PM - Re: Bank card (Paul McAllister)
20. 04:22 PM - Quick disconnect fitting (Paul McAllister)
21. 04:57 PM - Re: Quick disconnect fitting (David Glauser)
22. 05:12 PM - Re: Drilled brake Rotors (disks) (craig bastin)
23. 07:59 PM - Re: Quick disconnect fitting (Keith Hickling)
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craig bastin wrote:
> I am up to the wheel nuts on my trike, and have SERIOUS
> doubts about the 150 foot pounds quoted in the build
> manual. Given these are alluminium nuts, coupled with
> fact these are tapered bearings, IF i was able to get
> the nuts THAT tight the wheel would not rotate. My
> previous experience with wheel bearings on cars trucks
> trailers etc has always been to set the bearing nut to
> be tight enough to eliminate any chance of end float
> and just snug enough the wheel can be turned freely but
> with a small amount of resistance.
RTFM !
It is 150 INCH pounds !
And the nuts are brass coloured; definitely NOT aluminium
or even aluminum !
When in douibt follow the manual - and read it several
times at different times with an open mind :-)
Richard Holder
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See manual Page 29T-8
It is 150 INCH pounds, not FOOT
On my aircraft this is about right.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours
Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com
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Thanks Ian
I figured as much,
the other figure quoted in my manual is 17.25 KGf/m which is still what 125
foot pounds
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of G-IANI
Sent: Sunday, 18 May 2008 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: wheel nuts
See manual Page 29T-8
It is 150 INCH pounds, not FOOT
On my aircraft this is about right.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours
Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com
Checked by AVG.
6:26 PM
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I DID RTFM and......
the other figure quoted in my manual is 17.25 KGf/m which is still what 125
foot pounds
I did however just look at the manual online and it reads 1.725 kgf/m so it
would seem that
my manual is WRONG which is after all why i queried it. :)
As for the nuts, mine weigh in at 4 grams each and are NOT magnetic, so it
they are NOT
aluminium I would love to know what they are. To me they have all the
appearance of being
hard annodised aluminium, same as all my flared line fittings, given the
colour is imparted
during the process (if they are annodised alloy) they could be any colour
really.
RTFM !
It is 150 INCH pounds !
And the nuts are brass coloured; definitely NOT aluminium
or even aluminum !
When in douibt follow the manual - and read it several
times at different times with an open mind :-)
Richard Holder
Checked by AVG.
6:26 PM
Checked by AVG.
6:26 PM
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the mind is like a parachute! If it isn't open its useless
Graham
>
> When in douibt follow the manual - and read it several
> times at different times with an open mind :-)
>
> Richard Holder
>
>
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Correct me if I am wrong, but isnt askings questions the sign of an open
mind :)
after all only a fool knows everything
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Graham
Singleton
Sent: Sunday, 18 May 2008 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: wheel nuts
<grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
the mind is like a parachute! If it isn't open its useless
Graham
>
> When in douibt follow the manual - and read it several
> times at different times with an open mind :-)
>
> Richard Holder
>
>
Checked by AVG.
6:26 PM
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6:26 PM
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| Subject: | Re: Off Topic - Situational Awareness ??? |
Europaphiles,
I have posted Tommy Meyers pics of the aftermath of the landing
accident at K54F. They are in a nested album in the Builders Photo
Album. No text has been added, perhaps later when I have more time.
I must get up to the airport to begin priming the wings and do a bit
more body filler work on the fuselage.
Be safe,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
(95% done, only 95% to go) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module
installed, pitch system in, landing gear complete, rudder system in
with Singleton Mod, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap
pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, baggage bay
in. Fuel system complete. Rotax and Airmaster installed. Mods 62,
66, 70 & 72 done. Completed the instrument panel install. Europa
interior kit being installed. Installed windows. Working in - 25
Electrical, 28 Flaps, 30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35
Doors, 37 Finishing. Mostly finishing these days.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On May 17, 2008, at 7:56, Robert Borger wrote:
> Europaphiles,
>
> This accident occurred at K52F, Northwest Regional Airport,
> Roanoake, TX, which is where I do most of my flying from these
> days. I was working and not at the airport that day, but my buddy
> Tommy Meyer was there and he took about 100 pictures of the
> aftermath. From what I understand, speaking from those who were
> there, the guy in the beautifully restored Stinson pulled out in
> front of the Piper on very short final and began a takeoff roll.
> The student pilot and instructor in the Piper didn't observe it.
> Typical high-wing/low-wing issue. Anyway, the two aircraft had just
> matched speed when the Piper landed on top of the Stinson, left main
> gear through the cockpit, just behind the pilot, right main gear two
> ribs out from the right fuel tank, nose gear just to the right of
> the cowl and the two props tangled sending prop pieces all over the
> place. Incredible luck that nobody was hurt.
>
> Supposedly, both aircraft were in communications but there was a
> misunderstanding as to the exact position of the Piper in the
> pattern. A clear example of the need for proper communication
> (Including Understanding Transmissions!!) in the traffic pattern at
> busy uncontrolled fields. AND also the need for situational
> awareness at busy uncontrolled fields like 52F where there are
> numerous experimental, antique and classic aircraft without radios.
> 52F can be very busy. The last time I flew out of there, I had to
> go around three times due to traffic issues. Once because, after my
> radio call: "Experimental 62TR on short final 35," a C-172 called:
> "Cessna xxxxX position and hold 35" and he pulled out onto the
> runway right in front of me and just sat there.
>
> If anyone would like to see Tommy's pics, I'd be glad to post them
> in an album on the Europa Owners Forum, if that's OK with Steve and
> Jos.
>
> Be safe, good building and great flying,
> Bob Borger
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| Subject: | Firewall Forward inventory |
Hi,
Can anyone provide me with an inventory checklist for a stage 4 (firewall forward)
kit for a Europa XS please?
Thanks,
Phil
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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| Subject: | Warp Drive tapered propeller blades |
I'm in the UK and would like to buy a matched set of good undamaged second-hand
Warp Drive tapered blades suitable for a Rotax 912UL.
They could either have come off a Warp Drive ground-adjustable hub or be fitted
with the ferrules suitable for an Airmaster variable pitch hub.
I'm happy to pay a fair price which reflects their age and usage.
Thanks from Jonathan
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=183660#183660
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| Subject: | Warp Drive tapered propeller blades (2) |
Further to my previous posting, my email is jdmilbank@hotmail.com and telephone
01651-806471. Sorry I'm unaccustomed to this forum.
Jonathan
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=183661#183661
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| Subject: | Re: Airspeed details |
Hi Ferg,
Paul McAlister has a Winter Airspeed indicator that is 2+1/4". Nice
feature on a mono to be able to follow low airspeed with good resolution.
It has same resolution (more than 360 degree sweep) as larger Winter that
Europa sells.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Re: Drilled brake Rotors (disks) |
Hi Craig
"Does anyone know the legalities is drilled brake rotors"
Can't tell you the legalities, but can tell you that there are an
incredible number of holes needed to reduce weight, all of which need to
be deburred on both sides.
I built a custom motorcycle where I shoehorned a YTZ 250 motor into a YZ
80 frame (under 200 pounds with 65HP). I installed the disk brakes from
the 450 pound beast but the rear rotor was not drilled. It happened to be
same diameter as the front so I clamped together and transfer punched
drill marks. Hours and hours and hours drilled on that rotor, then figured
out there are 2 sides that need deburring! Looks pretty, I forget the
exact weight savings but it was not as much as I would have liked for the
amount of work invested.
Supposedly helps with cooling. Good chance after you completed task, you
would have hit on the perfect harmonics where each flight would yield a
slight different "whistle"!
Fooling aside, worth it to make a drill template so others can do the deed
to their rotor. Very kool (cool) the increasing distance between drill
marks swirl instead of in line registration as diameter increases.
Ron Parigoris
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not wrong at all Craig, no suvh thing as a daft question either!
btw why can't I get smileys when I reply, only when I write a new message?
Graham
craig bastin wrote:
>
> Correct me if I am wrong, but isnt askings questions the sign of an open
> mind :)
>
> after all only a fool knows everything
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| Subject: | Re: Drilled brake Rotors (disks) |
Can't answer that, but have you any info on the grade and hardness of the
stainless material used?
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "craig bastin" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 10:30 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Drilled brake Rotors (disks)
>
>
> Does anyone know the legalities is drilled brake rotors, I weighed the
> individual
> rotor yesterday, and feel 2 pounds per rotor is a tad on the heavy side.
> Having run
> drilled stainless rotors for racing I feel a good weight saving could be
> made here
>
> craig
> Checked by AVG.
> 7:42 PM
>
>
>
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| Subject: | ground clearance |
To all you flying monowheelies...
By any chance, does anyone have a measurement of the distance between
the ground and the trailing edge of the flaps at the root (inboard tip)
in the deployed, gear down, position? If not, I'd be much obliged if
someone could take one and forward it to me.
Thanks mucho,
Fred
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| Subject: | Drilled brake Rotors (disks) |
Not sure of the grade or hardness, but I intend to try and find out, we just
used to
buy them and bolt them on, they did turn blue occasionally if you really
gave them a
hard time, but I couldnt see them getting anywhere near the same punishment
when
on an aircraft, as speed will generally be a lot lower and weight is only up
about 100kg
and its normally only one big stop and your done
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Duncan & Ami
McFadyean
Sent: Monday, 19 May 2008 4:13 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Drilled brake Rotors (disks)
<ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Can't answer that, but have you any info on the grade and hardness of the
stainless material used?
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "craig bastin" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 10:30 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Drilled brake Rotors (disks)
>
>
> Does anyone know the legalities is drilled brake rotors, I weighed the
> individual
> rotor yesterday, and feel 2 pounds per rotor is a tad on the heavy side.
> Having run
> drilled stainless rotors for racing I feel a good weight saving could be
> made here
>
> craig
> Checked by AVG.
> 7:42 PM
>
>
Checked by AVG.
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Paul
tried your cash card today, no good. Looks like the PIN has been
blocked, or at least my pin doesn't work with your card.
Graham
--
Graham Singleton
Tel: +441629820187
Mob: +447739582005
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| Subject: | Re: Drilled brake Rotors (disks) |
Craig,
Have a look at www.beringer.fr
Karel Vranken.
----- Original Message -----
From: "craig bastin" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 11:30 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Drilled brake Rotors (disks)
>
>
> Does anyone know the legalities is drilled brake rotors, I weighed the
> individual
> rotor yesterday, and feel 2 pounds per rotor is a tad on the heavy side.
> Having run
> drilled stainless rotors for racing I feel a good weight saving could be
> made here
>
> craig
> Checked by AVG.
> 7:42 PM
>
>
>
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Hi Mate,
Could you post me my card and I'll go down to the bank and get it
sorted. I'll tell them that you have lost yours as well and have them
send it out. Once I get it I'll post both cards back to you and you
should be all set.
Cheers, Paul
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 5:39 PM, Graham Singleton
<grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> wrote:
> <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
>
> Paul
> tried your cash card today, no good. Looks like the PIN has been blocked, or
> at least my pin doesn't work with your card.
> Graham
>
> --
> Graham Singleton
>
> Tel: +441629820187
> Mob: +447739582005
>
>
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| Subject: | Quick disconnect fitting |
Hi All,
I am looking for a source for quick disconnect fittings as shown in
the attached photograph. It has barbs on the end for 1/8 tubing. I
purchased the last ones from AC Spruce about 5 years ago but now they
only stock the fitting with 1/4 barbs.
I'd appreciate it if anyone can point me in the right direction.
Thanks and regards, Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Quick disconnect fitting |
Try McMaster-Carr, starting on page 182.
dg
On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Paul McAllister
<paul.the.aviator@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am looking for a source for quick disconnect fittings as shown in
> the attached photograph. It has barbs on the end for 1/8 tubing. I
> purchased the last ones from AC Spruce about 5 years ago but now they
> only stock the fitting with 1/4 barbs.
>
> I'd appreciate it if anyone can point me in the right direction.
>
> Thanks and regards, Paul
>
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| Subject: | Drilled brake Rotors (disks) |
They look great Karel
good weight saving too, complete wheel and brake for 4.25 pounds
instead of 6.6 pounds for just the wheel, will have to save up
my pennies and buy a set.
craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of karelvranken
Sent: Monday, 19 May 2008 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Drilled brake Rotors (disks)
Craig,
Have a look at www.beringer.fr
Karel Vranken.
----- Original Message -----
From: "craig bastin" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 11:30 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Drilled brake Rotors (disks)
>
>
> Does anyone know the legalities is drilled brake rotors, I weighed the
> individual
> rotor yesterday, and feel 2 pounds per rotor is a tad on the heavy side.
> Having run
> drilled stainless rotors for racing I feel a good weight saving could be
> made here
>
> craig
> Checked by AVG.
> 7:42 PM
>
>
Checked by AVG.
9:31 AM
Checked by AVG.
9:31 AM
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| Subject: | Re: Quick disconnect fitting |
Europa sell them, will post in a small envelope.
Keith Hickling.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Quick disconnect fitting
> Hi All,
>
> I am looking for a source for quick disconnect fittings as shown in
> the attached photograph. It has barbs on the end for 1/8 tubing. I
> purchased the last ones from AC Spruce about 5 years ago but now they
> only stock the fitting with 1/4 barbs.
>
> I'd appreciate it if anyone can point me in the right direction.
>
> Thanks and regards, Paul
>
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