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1. 01:53 AM - Re: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty (craig bastin)
2. 05:50 AM - Re: A special request (Fred Klein)
3. 11:56 AM - toe brakes (Rick Stockton)
4. 12:14 PM - Re: FW: UK/Europe readers only - Lydeway Fly-In 2008 (Bryan Allsop)
5. 12:17 PM - Re: europa for sale (karelvranken)
6. 01:59 PM - tourque tube troubles (Paul Stewart)
7. 03:27 PM - Re: tourque tube troubles (Karl Heindl)
8. 07:14 PM - Re: tourque tube troubles ()
9. 07:39 PM - Europa Trailer Tie Rods (MJKTuck@cs.com)
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| Subject: | Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty |
In most countries a quantity of that size would probably fall into an
exemption packing group
the same as most hair care products, a lot of which are corrosive or
oxidizing agents also, but arent
considered hazardous because of the small amounts involved
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Carl Pattinson
Sent: Sunday, 25 May 2008 9:35 PM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
I just checked and the packs are 1.4kg, not 2kg as I believed.
In the UK these are available for L80 including tax and shipping. Split
into 200g batches would work out at L12 each plus postage.
OK, I know that posting is a no no due to them being classed as hazardous
chemicals but small batches properly packaged shouldnt be a problem.
Checked by AVG.
6:49 PM
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| Subject: | Re: A special request |
On Sunday, May 25, 2008, at 23:18 US/Pacific, Robert C Harrison wrote:
> You need to take care to allow for wing deflection with your fillet
> fairing and can easily finish up with it too tight making it difficult
> to assemble the wings and causing fretting on the fuselage sies.
Thank you Bob...several fellows whom I've talked w/ have advised that I
allow for wing flex; I agree it's an issue and I think it can be
resolved....Fred
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I'm in the process of installing my toe brakes, but the book talks about putting
the cylinders on the port side of the bracket.
I installed the two cylinders between the two bracket supports. Now I'm questioning
myself. Any picture out there? I measured the 4 1/2 inches and there
does not seem to be enought room to put the left brake cyinder on the outside
of the bracket.
Any help would be nice.
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| Subject: | FW: UK/Europe readers only - Lydeway Fly-In 2008 |
Hi Nigel,
I would love to come, but sadly it cant be the Saturday.
Please put me down for Sunday if it turns out that way.
Best regards.
Bryan
From: nwcmc@tiscali.co.ukTo: europa-list@matronics.comSubject: Europa-List:
FW: UK/Europe readers only - Lydeway Fly-In 2008Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 19:
34:28 +0100
I am not sure whether this email got sent first time around. Apologies if
it is a repeat.
This is a reminder for anyone considering attending the Lydeway Fly-In this
year. There are still a few places left. As this is a strictly PPR fly-in
with limited places if you are interested in attending please respond to th
is email. It isn't necessary to have a flying Europa for this event. In fac
t a variety of aircraft types adds to the interest of the event so if you h
ave an alternative aircraft we would be pleased to welcome you. With that i
n mind feel free to pass on details of this event to other GA pilots.
Regards
Nigel Charles
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LYDEWAY BBQ/FLY-IN 2008
The Lydeway BBQ/Fly-In will be held on Saturday 14th June 2008 with Sunday
15th June as a back-up day in case of bad weather. For those who haven't be
en to Lydeway before it is a 790m grass strip 11nm south of RAF Lyneham. A
BBQ and drinks are provided for free in exchange for a couple of joyride fl
ights for local residents. Due to the numbers of flight movements during th
e day I need to limit the event to 12-14 aircraft. With that in mind it is
strictly PPR and I am now taking bookings. If you are only able to make one
or other of the 2 days set aside for the event that is OK as I am taking b
ookings for both days independently. There will be a weather check at 2000h
rs on Friday 14th June and immediately afterwards pilots will be notified b
y email as to which day the event will go ahead.
Anyone interested in attending should contact me at nwcmc@tiscali.co.uk or
by phone on 01380 860620.
Nigel Charles.
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| Subject: | Re: europa for sale |
Tom,
The mail was not completed and I don't know why it went away from my
screen. So I mailed that I am deaf.... for 30%. I use the Sennheiser ANR
headsets and the volume for the radio is rather hard for normal ears.
Sometimes, and especially womens voices, are nearly heard but then I ask
to repeat until I receive the answer in for me understandable volume.
Don't be afraid; they will not kick you out of the air.
Best regards,
Karel Vranken.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Friedland
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: europa for sale
Hi Karel
Thanks for the note.
How do you fly into controlled airspace and to fields with towers?
Tom
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 1:01 PM, karelvranken
<karelvranken@hotmail.com> wrote:
Tom,
Twice a year I pass a medical and my doctor says: we are not there
to take away your licence. Today there are a lot of medical cares who
make it possible that you continue to fly. By the way I am deaf
----- Original Message -----
From: craig bastin
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:04 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: europa for sale
Surely there is Technological fix that would allow you to keep
flying. Like one of those BOSE or ZULU ANR headsets to cut out
virtually all background noise and turn the radio way up so you
can hear it clearly. Sure they are not cheap but if it lets you keep
flying, assuming you want to, it could be worth a look.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom
Friedland
Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 6:17 AM
To: Europa Forum
Subject: Europa-List: europa for sale
Yes it hurts. It has been virtually complete for the past 3
years while I contemplated my increasing hearing loss. It is now such
that I can no longer understand many radio transmissions. Therefore, it
is reluctantly for sale.
N96V is an XS mono with Airmaster prop, jabiru 120 hp, and comes
with trailer, ap, radios, coupled gps, and much more. Asking $49,000 or
BO. Located Ellensburg WA Email me for photos and a long list of
extras. 96victor@gmail.com
Tom
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| Subject: | tourque tube troubles |
Anyone had TP5 disbond from the tail plane root rib? If so I'd like
to pick your brains.
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
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| Subject: | tourque tube troubles |
Paul,
Yes, both disbonded from trailering.
I simply bonded them in again with redux, making sure that there was enough
of a gap all around for the adhesive to go on all sufaces. I also made a f
loxed ring on the inside of the rib. Mounted the tailplanes just far enough
for the t.t. to go into the TP6.
Made sure that no redux would touch the t.t. while curing.
Years later, with the Mod 73 fiasco, I removed the TP5's with heat and repl
aced them with long TP5's
that reach up to the TP6.
Karl
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art.f2s.com> Subject: Europa-List: tourque tube troubles> Date: Mon, 26 May
ropa@pstewart.f2s.com>> > Anyone had TP5 disbond from the tail plane root r
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| Subject: | Re: tourque tube troubles |
Hi Paul
"Anyone had TP5 disbond from the tail plane root rib? If so I'd like
> to pick your brains."
My partner and his dad picked up our kit in Florida and trucked it back to
New York. The first time I saw kit, the first thing I did was begin to
fool with tailplanes. It took 45 minutes to have a TP5 debonded!
Tailplanes were "accelerated". Here is how we dealt with:
http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=album220&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
We did send back and repair was putting a fillet of flox from outside
(April 2003). Unacceptable. Too were worries that the outer bushings was
bonded as well as the inners which would probably fail right after final
paint applied.
"When" our inner and outer bushings become debonded, there will be a lot
of aeroplane coming with them.
Note rowing skull CF oars for guide while assembling. I like the Mod. of
wrapping fiberglass around both bushings on a new build, but not too easy
to do on a completed tailplane. I would rather see the first layer of BID
using redux and peelply, then when cured use Aeropoxy/BID to complete.
Redux holds better to metals and its slight flexibility prevents as harsh
a point loading. Still a fine mod because upon assembly it prevents
tremendous loads being exerted on inner bushing until torque tube enters
the outer bushing. I do understand the BID encapsulates the bushings,
still first layer of Redux is better IMHO.
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Europa Trailer Tie Rods |
Hi Folks,
I'm fortunate to have a hangar for my Europa, but I do still use the Europa
supplied trailer on occasion - usually to do my annual check, like I did today.
I find that I always have a problem getting the tie rods to lock the ramp in
place once the aircraft is on the trailer. Today they seem too short. I think
it has something to do with the tire pressure. I seem to have run out of
adjustment.
Have any of you who use the trailer have a better tie rod method which is
adjustable once the aircraft is on to 'take up the slack' - a chain maybe, or
some other adjustable rod/linkage.
Any ideas would be appreciated?
Regards,
Martin Tuck
N152MT
Wichita, Kansas
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