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1. 01:00 AM - Re: europa for sale (JR Gowing)
2. 01:12 AM - Re: Europa Trailer Tie Rods (Raimo Toivio)
3. 05:17 AM - Re: europa for sale (joseph brannen)
4. 07:48 AM - Re: toe brakes (ALAN YERLY)
5. 09:03 AM - Absent Charts....? (Robert C Harrison)
6. 09:03 AM - Re: FW: UK/Europe readers only - Lydeway Fly-In 2008 (nigel charles)
7. 09:06 AM - Re: europa for sale (karelvranken)
8. 09:58 AM - Re: tourque tube troubles (Paul Stewart)
9. 10:10 AM - Re: tourque tube troubles (Paul Stewart)
10. 10:23 AM - Re: tourque tube troubles (William Harrison)
11. 10:33 AM - Re: tourque tube troubles (Karl Heindl)
12. 10:47 AM - Re: tourque tube troubles (Karl Heindl)
13. 12:35 PM - Re: europa for sale (Tom Friedland)
14. 01:53 PM - Re: tourque tube troubles (Paul Stewart)
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| Subject: | Re: europa for sale |
Karel
Do you use hearing aids to pep up only the frequencies that you need=3F You m
ay be able to use less volume.
JR (Bob} Gowing 327 in Oz
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----- Original Message -----
From: karelvranken
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: europa for sale
Tom,
The mail was not completed and I don't know why it went away from my scre
en. So I mailed that I am deaf.... for 30%. I use the Sennheiser ANR headse
ts and the volume for the radio is rather hard for normal ears. Sometimes,
and especially womens voices, are nearly heard but then I ask to repeat un
til I receive the answer in for me understandable volume. Don't be afraid;
they will not kick you out of the air.
Best regards,
Karel Vranken.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Friedland
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: europa for sale
Hi Karel
Thanks for the note.
How do you fly into controlled airspace and to fields with towers=3F
Tom
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 1:01 PM, karelvranken <karelvranken@hotmail.com
> wrote:
Tom,
Twice a year I pass a medical and my doctor says: we are not there to
take away your licence. Today there are a lot of medical cares who make it
possible that you continue to fly. By the way I am deaf
----- Original Message -----
From: craig bastin
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:04 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: europa for sale
Surely there is Technological fix that would allow you to keep flyi
ng. Like one of those BOSE or ZULU ANR headsets to cut out
virtually all background noise and turn the radio way up so you can
hear it clearly. Sure they are not cheap but if it lets you keep
flying, assuming you want to, it could be worth a look.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa
-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom Friedland
Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 6:17 AM
To: Europa Forum
Subject: Europa-List: europa for sale
Yes it hurts. It has been virtually complete for the past 3 year
s while I contemplated my increasing hearing loss. It is now such that I c
an no longer understand many radio transmissions. Therefore, it is relucta
ntly for sale.
N96V is an XS mono with Airmaster prop, jabiru 120 hp, and comes
with trailer, ap, radios, coupled gps, and much more. Asking $49,000 or BO
. Located Ellensburg WA Email me for photos and a long list of extras.
96victor@gmail.com
Tom
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Trailer Tie Rods |
Hi Martin!
I have had no problems to use mine.
Those purpose-made rods are easily adustable +/- 2".
It is much to do w tire pressure and their adjustment.
The rubber string is there to prevent opening w/o intention.
Please study the attached pic - hope it helps!
Wishes, Raimo
----- Original Message -----
From: MJKTuck@cs.com
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:36 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Europa Trailer Tie Rods
Hi Folks,
I'm fortunate to have a hangar for my Europa, but I do still use the
Europa supplied trailer on occasion - usually to do my annual check,
like I did today.
I find that I always have a problem getting the tie rods to lock the
ramp in place once the aircraft is on the trailer. Today they seem too
short. I think it has something to do with the tire pressure. I seem to
have run out of adjustment.
Have any of you who use the trailer have a better tie rod method which
is adjustable once the aircraft is on to 'take up the slack' - a chain
maybe, or some other adjustable rod/linkage.
Any ideas would be appreciated?
Regards,
Martin Tuck
N152MT
Wichita, Kansas
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| Subject: | Re: europa for sale |
The hearing aids I use are fitted to enhance
frequencies at and near the dead cells.
joe
--- JR Gowing <jrgowing@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> Karel
> Do you use hearing aids to pep up only the
> frequencies that you need? You may be able to use
> less volume.
> JR (Bob} Gowing 327 in Oz
> \\
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> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: karelvranken
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: europa for sale
>
>
> Tom,
> The mail was not completed and I don't know why it
> went away from my screen. So I mailed that I am
> deaf.... for 30%. I use the Sennheiser ANR headsets
> and the volume for the radio is rather hard for
> normal ears. Sometimes, and especially womens
> voices, are nearly heard but then I ask to repeat
> until I receive the answer in for me understandable
> volume. Don't be afraid; they will not kick you out
> of the air.
> Best regards,
> Karel Vranken.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Friedland
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 12:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: europa for sale
>
>
> Hi Karel
>
>
> Thanks for the note.
>
>
>
> How do you fly into controlled airspace and to
> fields with towers?
>
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 1:01 PM, karelvranken
> <karelvranken@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Tom,
> Twice a year I pass a medical and my doctor
> says: we are not there to take away your licence.
> Today there are a lot of medical cares who make it
> possible that you continue to fly. By the way I am
> deaf
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: craig bastin
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:04 PM
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: europa for sale
>
>
> Surely there is Technological fix that would
> allow you to keep flying. Like one of those BOSE or
> ZULU ANR headsets to cut out
> virtually all background noise and turn the
> radio way up so you can hear it clearly. Sure they
> are not cheap but if it lets you keep
> flying, assuming you want to, it could be
> worth a look.
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On
> Behalf Of Tom Friedland
> Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 6:17 AM
> To: Europa Forum
> Subject: Europa-List: europa for sale
>
>
> Yes it hurts. It has been virtually
> complete for the past 3 years while I contemplated
> my increasing hearing loss. It is now such that I
> can no longer understand many radio transmissions.
> Therefore, it is reluctantly for sale.
>
>
> N96V is an XS mono with Airmaster prop,
> jabiru 120 hp, and comes with trailer, ap, radios,
> coupled gps, and much more. Asking $49,000 or BO.
> Located Ellensburg WA Email me for photos and a
> long list of extras. 96victor@gmail.com
>
>
> Tom
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Rick,
Both pedals go between the rudders with the mounting brackets between
the rudders with the horizontal flanges facing one another. I have the
old manual with the brakes between the rudders pages with drawings which
are quite clear if you need it (Page 33T-3 of the old manual). If you
don't have that, I can scan the sheets and send them via email Wed
night.
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Stockton<mailto:aireupora@sbcglobal.net>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:53 PM
Subject: Europa-List: toe brakes
I'm in the process of installing my toe brakes, but the book talks
about putting the cylinders on the port side of the bracket.
I installed the two cylinders between the two bracket supports. Now
I'm questioning myself. Any picture out there? I measured the 4 1/2
inches and there does not seem to be enought room to put the left brake
cyinder on the outside of the bracket.
Any help would be nice.
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| Subject: | Absent Charts....? |
Hi! All
Sure sign of memory loss...........Please own up who borrowed my Swedish
Charts? I need them urgently.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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| Subject: | FW: UK/Europe readers only - Lydeway Fly-In 2008 |
Hi Bryan
I do have one pilot who can only make the Saturday so that makes your
slot allocation for the Sunday only very easy.
Just remind me of your a/c reg and where you are based. Also could I
have home/mobile phone numbers. Last year we had a problem with emails
not getting through so phone numbers provide a useful backup.
A briefing sheet will be sent out at the end of the month.
Regards
Nigel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bryan
Allsop
Sent: 26 May 2008 20:12
Subject: RE: Europa-List: FW: UK/Europe readers only - Lydeway Fly-In
2008
Hi Nigel,
I would love to come, but sadly it cant be the Saturday.
Please put me down for Sunday if it turns out that way.
Best regards.
Bryan
_____
From: nwcmc@tiscali.co.uk
Subject: Europa-List: FW: UK/Europe readers only - Lydeway Fly-In 2008
I am not sure whether this email got sent first time around. Apologies
if it is a repeat.
This is a reminder for anyone considering attending the Lydeway Fly-In
this year. There are still a few places left. As this is a strictly PPR
fly-in with limited places if you are interested in attending please
respond to this email. It isn't necessary to have a flying Europa for
this event. In fact a variety of aircraft types adds to the interest of
the event so if you have an alternative aircraft we would be pleased to
welcome you. With that in mind feel free to pass on details of this
event to other GA pilots.
Regards
Nigel Charles
-----------------------------------------
LYDEWAY BBQ/FLY-IN 2008
The Lydeway BBQ/Fly-In will be held on Saturday 14th June 2008 with
Sunday 15th June as a back-up day in case of bad weather. For those who
haven't been to Lydeway before it is a 790m grass strip 11nm south of
RAF Lyneham. A BBQ and drinks are provided for free in exchange for a
couple of joyride flights for local residents. Due to the numbers of
flight movements during the day I need to limit the event to 12-14
aircraft. With that in mind it is strictly PPR and I am now taking
bookings. If you are only able to make one or other of the 2 days set
aside for the event that is OK as I am taking bookings for both days
independently. There will be a weather check at 2000hrs on Friday 14th
June and immediately afterwards pilots will be notified by email as to
which day the event will go ahead.
Anyone interested in attending should contact me at nwcmc@tiscali.co.uk
or by phone on 01380 860620.
Nigel Charles.
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| Subject: | Re: europa for sale |
Bob,
No, I have the impression that there is an interference between the
hearing aids and the ANR of the headsets. Still hoping that one day use
of both might be possible.
Karel Vranken.
----- Original Message -----
From: JR Gowing
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: europa for sale
Karel
Do you use hearing aids to pep up only the frequencies that you need?
You may be able to use less volume.
JR (Bob} Gowing 327 in Oz
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----- Original Message -----
From: karelvranken
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:14 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: europa for sale
Tom,
The mail was not completed and I don't know why it went away from my
screen. So I mailed that I am deaf.... for 30%. I use the Sennheiser ANR
headsets and the volume for the radio is rather hard for normal ears.
Sometimes, and especially womens voices, are nearly heard but then I ask
to repeat until I receive the answer in for me understandable volume.
Don't be afraid; they will not kick you out of the air.
Best regards,
Karel Vranken.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Friedland
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: europa for sale
Hi Karel
Thanks for the note.
How do you fly into controlled airspace and to fields with towers?
Tom
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 1:01 PM, karelvranken
<karelvranken@hotmail.com> wrote:
Tom,
Twice a year I pass a medical and my doctor says: we are not
there to take away your licence. Today there are a lot of medical cares
who make it possible that you continue to fly. By the way I am deaf
----- Original Message -----
From: craig bastin
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 11:04 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: europa for sale
Surely there is Technological fix that would allow you to keep
flying. Like one of those BOSE or ZULU ANR headsets to cut out
virtually all background noise and turn the radio way up so
you can hear it clearly. Sure they are not cheap but if it lets you keep
flying, assuming you want to, it could be worth a look.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tom
Friedland
Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 6:17 AM
To: Europa Forum
Subject: Europa-List: europa for sale
Yes it hurts. It has been virtually complete for the past 3
years while I contemplated my increasing hearing loss. It is now such
that I can no longer understand many radio transmissions. Therefore, it
is reluctantly for sale.
N96V is an XS mono with Airmaster prop, jabiru 120 hp, and
comes with trailer, ap, radios, coupled gps, and much more. Asking
$49,000 or BO. Located Ellensburg WA Email me for photos and a long
list of extras. 96victor@gmail.com
Tom
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| Subject: | Re: tourque tube troubles |
Karl
Thanks for the information. Can you tell me where you got suitable
material to make a 'full length' TP5? or what sort of material and
size it was?
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
On 26 May 2008, at 23:23, Karl Heindl wrote:
>
> Paul,
>
> Yes, both disbonded from trailering.
> I simply bonded them in again with redux, making sure that there
> was enough of a gap all around for the adhesive to go on all
> sufaces. I also made a floxed ring on the inside of the rib.
> Mounted the tailplanes just far enough for the t.t. to go into the
> TP6.
> Made sure that no redux would touch the t.t. while curing.
>
> Years later, with the Mod 73 fiasco, I removed the TP5's with heat
> and replaced them with long TP5's
> that reach up to the TP6.
>
> Karl
>
> <html><div></div>
>
> > To: europa-list@matronics.com
> > From: europa@pstewart.f2s.com
> > Subject: Europa-List: tourque tube troubles
> > Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 21:59:08 +0100
> >
> <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
> >
> > Anyone had TP5 disbond from the tail plane root rib? If so I'd like
> > to pick your brains.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Paul
> > G-GIDY
> >
> > =====================
> > ================
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: tourque tube troubles |
Thank you Ron. Unfortunately our final paint is indeed on. Really
dislike the idea of merely gluing it back in place - don't see how
it's going to be better. Before embarking on major surgery like
yours, we're investigating the possibility of getting the outer edge
of TP5 welded to a plate of thinish SS such that when the TP% is
bonded back in place the plate sits flat on the root rib to which it
could be bonded. If it come to nothing we may go your way.
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
On 27 May 2008, at 03:11, <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> wrote:
>
> Hi Paul
>
> "Anyone had TP5 disbond from the tail plane root rib? If so I'd like
>> to pick your brains."
>
> My partner and his dad picked up our kit in Florida and trucked it
> back to
> New York. The first time I saw kit, the first thing I did was begin to
> fool with tailplanes. It took 45 minutes to have a TP5 debonded!
> Tailplanes were "accelerated". Here is how we dealt with:
> http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?
> set_albumName=album220&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view
> _album.php
>
> We did send back and repair was putting a fillet of flox from outside
> (April 2003). Unacceptable. Too were worries that the outer
> bushings was
> bonded as well as the inners which would probably fail right after
> final
> paint applied.
>
> "When" our inner and outer bushings become debonded, there will be
> a lot
> of aeroplane coming with them.
>
> Note rowing skull CF oars for guide while assembling. I like the
> Mod. of
> wrapping fiberglass around both bushings on a new build, but not
> too easy
> to do on a completed tailplane. I would rather see the first layer
> of BID
> using redux and peelply, then when cured use Aeropoxy/BID to complete.
> Redux holds better to metals and its slight flexibility prevents as
> harsh
> a point loading. Still a fine mod because upon assembly it prevents
> tremendous loads being exerted on inner bushing until torque tube
> enters
> the outer bushing. I do understand the BID encapsulates the bushings,
> still first layer of Redux is better IMHO.
>
> Ron Parigoris
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: tourque tube troubles |
I suggest that this problem can also be caused by undue side loads
translating into torsional and axial loads on a badly lubricated
torque tube when putting the tailplane on or off (easily done
especially if you don't hold it the way it says in the user manual).
The design is not brilliant, with quite a small area for the bond.
Repair could be difficult if the original internal flox fillet
prevents the disbonded sleeve from being removed completely for
degreasing. Note that if you do need to degrease in situ prior to
rebonding, then IPA is an effective degreasing agent that does not
dissolve the blue foam like some other solvents.
Needless to say (??) anyone with a G-reg aircraft who wants to go
public about such a problem might need their repair scheme to be
approved by the LAA if they didn't want to risk invalidating their
Permit, and therefore, in turn, their insurance.
Willie Harrison (too tired to write the book, "A Plane is Reborn" and
still waiting for the LAA to give me my Permit back after a 700 hr re-
build.....)
On 26 May 2008, at 21:59, Paul Stewart wrote:
> <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
>
> Anyone had TP5 disbond from the tail plane root rib? If so I'd like
> to pick your brains.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
> G-GIDY
>
>
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| Subject: | tourque tube troubles |
Paul, There was a discussion about this a few months ago. I used a T6 alum
inium tube from ACS. Someone pointed out that the interior should be plated
with something first, but I can't remember what that process was. I think
the reasoning was dissimilar metals and possibility of corrosion. My torque
tube is always greased because I have seen corrosion on at least one Europ
a, with the regular setup.Being in UK, you may want to check with Roger if
their supplier can cut you two longer tubes out of the same material as TP5
and TP6. Karl<html><div></div>
From: europa@pstewart.f2s.comSubject: Re: Europa-List: tourque tube trouble
sDate: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:57:18 +0100To: europa-list@matronics.com; rich@t
uckwell.netKarl
Thanks for the information. Can you tell me where you got suitable material
to make a 'full length' TP5? or what sort of material and size it was?
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
On 26 May 2008, at 23:23, Karl Heindl wrote:
Paul, Yes, both disbonded from trailering.I simply bonded them in again wi
th redux, making sure that there was enough of a gap all around for the adh
esive to go on all sufaces. I also made a floxed ring on the inside of the
rib. Mounted the tailplanes just far enough for the t.t. to go into the TP6
.Made sure that no redux would touch the t.t. while curing. Years later, wi
th the Mod 73 fiasco, I removed the TP5's with heat and replaced them with
long TP5'sthat reach up to the TP6. Karl<html><div></div>> To: europ
a-list@matronics.com> From: europa@pstewart.f2s.com> Subject: Europa-List:
tourque tube troubles> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 21:59:08 +0100> > --> Europa-
List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>> > Anyone ha
d TP5 disbond from the tail plane root rib? If so I'd like > to pick your b
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Paul,
The order no.is 03-37900. That is 6061T6 tube with i.d. of 1.509 inches.
Karl<html><div></div>
From: europa@pstewart.f2s.comSubject: Re: Europa-List: tourque tube trouble
sDate: Tue, 27 May 2008 17:57:18 +0100To: europa-list@matronics.com; rich@t
uckwell.netKarl
Thanks for the information. Can you tell me where you got suitable material
to make a 'full length' TP5? or what sort of material and size it was?
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
On 26 May 2008, at 23:23, Karl Heindl wrote:
Paul, Yes, both disbonded from trailering.I simply bonded them in again wi
th redux, making sure that there was enough of a gap all around for the adh
esive to go on all sufaces. I also made a floxed ring on the inside of the
rib. Mounted the tailplanes just far enough for the t.t. to go into the TP6
.Made sure that no redux would touch the t.t. while curing. Years later, wi
th the Mod 73 fiasco, I removed the TP5's with heat and replaced them with
long TP5'sthat reach up to the TP6. Karl<html><div></div>> To: europ
a-list@matronics.com> From: europa@pstewart.f2s.com> Subject: Europa-List:
tourque tube troubles> Date: Mon, 26 May 2008 21:59:08 +0100> > --> Europa-
List message posted by: Paul Stewart <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>> > Anyone ha
d TP5 disbond from the tail plane root rib? If so I'd like > to pick your b
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Hi Karel
I have a light-speed ANR headset and it works well with my hearing aids and
does not have feed-back like my other David Clark headsets do.
Tom
On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 9:04 AM, karelvranken <karelvranken@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Bob,
> No, I have the impression that there is an interference between the hearing
> aids and the ANR of the headsets. Still hoping that one day use of both
> might be possible.
> Karel Vranken.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* JR Gowing <jrgowing@bigpond.net.au>
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:56 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: europa for sale
>
> Karel
> Do you use hearing aids to pep up only the frequencies that you need? You
> may be able to use less volume.
> JR (Bob} Gowing 327 in Oz
> \\
>
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* karelvranken <karelvranken@hotmail.com>
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 27, 2008 5:14 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: europa for sale
>
> Tom,
> The mail was not completed and I don't know why it went away from my
> screen. So I mailed that I am deaf.... for 30%. I use the Sennheiser ANR
> headsets and the volume for the radio is rather hard for normal ears.
> Sometimes, and especially womens voices, are nearly heard but then I ask to
> repeat until I receive the answer in for me understandable volume. Don't be
> afraid; they will not kick you out of the air.
> Best regards,
> Karel Vranken.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Tom Friedland <96victor@gmail.com>
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Monday, May 26, 2008 12:12 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: europa for sale
>
> Hi Karel
> Thanks for the note.
>
> How do you fly into controlled airspace and to fields with towers?
>
> Tom
>
> On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 1:01 PM, karelvranken <karelvranken@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Tom,
>> Twice a year I pass a medical and my doctor says: we are not there to take
>> away your licence. Today there are a lot of medical cares who make it
>> possible that you continue to fly. By the way I am deaf
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* craig bastin <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
>> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2008 11:04 PM
>> *Subject:* RE: Europa-List: europa for sale
>>
>> Surely there is Technological fix that would allow you to keep flying.
>> Like one of those BOSE or ZULU ANR headsets to cut out
>> virtually all background noise and turn the radio way up so you can hear
>> it clearly. Sure they are not cheap but if it lets you keep
>> flying, assuming you want to, it could be worth a look.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
>> owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of *Tom Friedland
>> *Sent:* Saturday, 24 May 2008 6:17 AM
>> *To:* Europa Forum
>> *Subject:* Europa-List: europa for sale
>>
>> Yes it hurts. It has been virtually complete for the past 3 years while
>> I contemplated my increasing hearing loss. It is now such that I can no
>> longer understand many radio transmissions. Therefore, it is reluctantly
>> for sale.
>> N96V is an XS mono with Airmaster prop, jabiru 120 hp, and comes with
>> trailer, ap, radios, coupled gps, and much more. Asking $49,000 or BO.
>> Located Ellensburg WA Email me for photos and a long list of extras.
>> 96victor@gmail.com
>>
>> Tom
>>
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Thank you Bob. Making a puller to pull the offending articles out.
Investigating (with LAA) possibility of welding plate or tabs to the
TP5 which would then bond flat to the root rib as well as TP5 in the
plywood.
Regards
Paul
G-GIDY
On 27 May 2008, at 18:20, William Harrison wrote:
> <willie.harrison@tinyonline.co.uk>
>
> I suggest that this problem can also be caused by undue side loads
> translating into torsional and axial loads on a badly lubricated
> torque tube when putting the tailplane on or off (easily done
> especially if you don't hold it the way it says in the user manual).
>
> The design is not brilliant, with quite a small area for the bond.
> Repair could be difficult if the original internal flox fillet
> prevents the disbonded sleeve from being removed completely for
> degreasing. Note that if you do need to degrease in situ prior to
> rebonding, then IPA is an effective degreasing agent that does not
> dissolve the blue foam like some other solvents.
>
> Needless to say (??) anyone with a G-reg aircraft who wants to go
> public about such a problem might need their repair scheme to be
> approved by the LAA if they didn't want to risk invalidating their
> Permit, and therefore, in turn, their insurance.
>
> Willie Harrison (too tired to write the book, "A Plane is Reborn"
> and still waiting for the LAA to give me my Permit back after a 700
> hr re-build.....)
>
>
> On 26 May 2008, at 21:59, Paul Stewart wrote:
>
>> <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
>>
>> Anyone had TP5 disbond from the tail plane root rib? If so I'd
>> like to pick your brains.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Paul
>> G-GIDY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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