---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/20/08: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:17 AM - Re: graham singleton mod (danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk) 2. 03:11 AM - Re: graham singleton mod (G-IANI) 3. 04:02 AM - Re: graham singleton mod (danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk) 4. 04:37 AM - Re: graham singleton mod (JohnDHeykoop@aol.com) 5. 05:27 AM - Re: graham singleton mod (Michel AUVRAY) 6. 06:57 AM - Re: graham singleton mod (JohnDHeykoop@aol.com) 7. 08:27 AM - Re: graham singleton mod (William Daniell) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:17:43 AM PST US From: "danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk" Subject: Re: Europa-List: graham singleton mod Cheers John, I thought I was being "dum" not being able to find the mod number. Now I feel vindicated :-) . Danny XS tri G-CERI JohnDHeykoop@aol.com wrote: > Hi Danny > > Good question. I too have Graham Singleton's firewall mod and was just > about to check with the LAA what the mod number is. > > The LAA website shows mod 10024 "Removable composite firewall" as a > mod approved "all of type" (Europa Classic only). Presumably this is > Graham Singleton's mod. > > However, Graham in his build instructions quotes a different mod > number (mod 11123, as approved by the PFA for Europa Classic G-KWIP). > > I have the XS version of Graham's mod and hopefully the LAA will > approve this without any further paperwork on the back of mods 10024 > and 11123. If another XS builder has already sorted this out with > the LAA perhaps they could respond? > > John Heykoop > XS mono G-JHKP > > In a message dated 19/06/2008 16:37:38 GMT Standard Time, > danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk writes: > > > > Hi All, > Does any know the mod number of Graham Singleton's firewall > mod? I'm just finishing the paper work for the final inspection. I > don't know about you guys, but I'm finding this the hardest part > of the > build. :-( > > Danny G-c.e.r.i > > > >* > > >* > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:13 AM PST US From: "G-IANI" Subject: RE: Europa-List: graham singleton mod John, Danny What John has said is correct. There are at least two mods covering Graham's firewall. I have, in the past, chased PFA to get one of these turned into a standard mod but with no results. At the moment, in theory, you need specific approval for the mod on your aircraft BUT recently LAA have started to treat "All of Type" mods as if they are "Standard". What I suggest you do is document your build as incorporating 11123 and put the paperwork in. If the PFA come back with a query then I will try and sort it out with Andy Draper. Where on the Web site did you find " The LAA website shows mod 10024 "Removable composite firewall" as a mod approved "all of type" (Europa Classic only). I have it on a list produced for me by PFA in 2006 but cannot find it via the Web site. Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:02:32 AM PST US From: "danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk" Subject: Re: Europa-List: graham singleton mod Wilco and thanks Danny G-IANI wrote: > John, Danny > > What John has said is correct. There are at least two mods covering > Graham's firewall. I have, in the past, chased PFA to get one of > these turned into a standard mod but with no results. At the moment, > in theory, you need specific approval for the mod on your aircraft > BUT recently LAA have started to treat "All of Type" mods as if they > are "Standard". > > What I suggest you do is document your build as incorporating 11123 > and put the paperwork in. If the PFA come back with a query then I > will try and sort it out with Andy Draper. > > > Where on the Web site did you find " The LAA website shows mod 10024 > "Removable composite firewall" as a mod approved "all of type" (Europa > Classic only). I have it on a list produced for me by PFA in 2006 but > cannot find it via the Web site. > > Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours > Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) > e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk > or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com > > > > >* > > >* > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:37:56 AM PST US From: JohnDHeykoop@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: graham singleton mod Ian On the LAA website select Engineering - Mods & Repairs - TL3.07 Using a mod approved for all type. Scroll down on that page and you will find a list of all the "mods of all type" approved for the Europa. Mod 10024 is the first one on this list. John Heykoop XS mono G-JHKP In a message dated 20/06/2008 11:12:03 GMT Standard Time, g-iani@ntlworld.com writes: Where on the Web site did you find " The LAA website shows mod 10024 "Removable composite firewall" as a mod approved "all of type" (Europa Classic only). I have it on a list produced for me by PFA in 2006 but cannot find it via the Web site. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:27:55 AM PST US From: Michel AUVRAY Subject: Re: Europa-List: graham singleton mod JohnDHeykoop@aol.com a crit : > Ian > > On the LAA website select Engineering - Mods & Repairs - TL3.07 Using > a mod approved for all type. > > Scroll down on that page and you will find a list of all the "mods of > all type" approved for the Europa. Mod 10024 is the first one on this > list. > > John Heykoop > XS mono G-JHKP > > In a message dated 20/06/2008 11:12:03 GMT Standard Time, > g-iani@ntlworld.com writes: > > > Where on the Web site did you find " The LAA website shows mod > 10024 "Removable composite firewall" as a mod approved "all of > type" (Europa Classic only). I have it on a list produced for me > by PFA in 2006 but cannot find it via the Web site. > > > > * > > > * Hi Graham, what is LAA? Do you have site web adress? Thanks -- --|-- --------(*)-------- Michel AUVRAY mau11@free.fr ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:08 AM PST US From: JohnDHeykoop@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: graham singleton mod Michel The PFA (Popular Flying Association) has changed its name to LAA (Light Aircraft Association). Its website address is _www.laa.uk.com_ (http://www.laa.uk.com) John Heykoop XS mono G-JHKP In a message dated 20/06/2008 13:28:31 GMT Standard Time, mau11@free.fr writes: Hi Graham, what is LAA? Do you have site web adress? Thanks ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:25 AM PST US From: "William Daniell" Subject: RE: Europa-List: graham singleton mod Do I find how to make this? In the same place? Will From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 05:58 Subject: Re: Europa-List: graham singleton mod Wilco and thanks Danny G-IANI wrote: John, Danny What John has said is correct. There are at least two mods covering Graham's firewall. I have, in the past, chased PFA to get one of these turned into a standard mod but with no results. At the moment, in theory, you need specific approval for the mod on your aircraft BUT recently LAA have started to treat "All of Type" mods as if they are "Standard". What I suggest you do is document your build as incorporating 11123 and put the paperwork in. If the PFA come back with a query then I will try and sort it out with Andy Draper. Where on the Web site did you find " The LAA website shows mod 10024 "Removable composite firewall" as a mod approved "all of type" (Europa Classic only). I have it on a list produced for me by PFA in 2006 but cannot find it via the Web site. Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) e-mail HYPERLINK "mailto:mods@europaclub.org.uk"mods@europaclub.org.uk or direct HYPERLINK "mailto:g-iani@ntlworld.com"g-iani@ntlworld.com Checked by AVG. 21:08 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.