---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 06/21/08: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:28 AM - Question on rudder cable bearing location? (Jeffrey J Paris) 2. 07:19 AM - Re: Question on rudder cable bearing location? (Steve Hagar) 3. 11:46 AM - Re: Question on rudder cable bearing location? (Jeffrey J Paris) 4. 12:09 PM - Re: Question on rudder cable bearing location? (Robert C Harrison) 5. 12:18 PM - Re: Question on rudder cable bearing location? (Robert Borger) 6. 02:04 PM - Re-routing coolant lines, 914UL/3 (Fergus Kyle) 7. 02:04 PM - Re-routing coolant lines, 914UL/3 (Fergus Kyle) 8. 10:24 PM - Main spar pins/bushes (raggi6771) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:28:02 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Question on rudder cable bearing location? From: "Jeffrey J Paris" Dear Thread, A quick question? I am in the process of running my rudder cables. I am at the part of the instructions in which we fabricated the 20mm x 30mm Tufnil blocks that are to be located on the plywood triangle seat support ribs. When we place ours on the rib the cable ends up rubbing on the inside walls of the console. If we make new and deeper blocks I'm concerned with clearance of the landing gear (monowheel). Does anybody have pictures or run into the same problem. I may have just place the triangle rib supports a tad bit outboard than I should have. Thank you for your time and consideration. Cheers, Jeff Paris Kit # A012 Classic Monowheel _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:35 AM PST US From: "Steve Hagar" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Question on rudder cable bearing location? Jeff: Make some guides out of Nylaflo tubing to run the cables through, for the sides of the wheel well cavity. It is available through Aircraft Spruce. Steve Hagar A143 Mesa, AZ > [Original Message] > From: Jeffrey J Paris > To: > Date: 6/21/2008 4:31:45 AM > Subject: Europa-List: Question on rudder cable bearing location? > > > > Dear Thread, > > A quick question? I am in the process of running my rudder cables. I am at the part of the instructions in which we fabricated the 20mm x 30mm Tufnil blocks that are to be located on the plywood triangle seat support ribs. When we place ours on the rib the cable ends up rubbing on the inside walls of the console. If we make new and deeper blocks I'm concerned with clearance of the landing gear (monowheel). Does anybody have pictures or run into the same problem. I may have just place the triangle rib supports a tad bit outboard than I should have. > > Thank you for your time and consideration. > > Cheers, > > Jeff Paris Kit # A012 Classic Monowheel > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:46:58 AM PST US Subject: RE: Europa-List: Question on rudder cable bearing location? From: "Jeffrey J Paris" Thanks Steve excellent idea! --- On Sat 06/21, Steve Hagar < hagargs@earthlink.net > wrote: From: Steve Hagar [mailto: hagargs@earthlink.net] Subject: RE: Europa-List: Question on rudder cable bearing location? _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:09:10 PM PST US From: "Robert C Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Question on rudder cable bearing location? Hi! Jeffrey Yes, the suggestions others have made about running your cables through tubing is good but don't despair if you later find you need another run slightly diverting. As an afterthought without removing the cable to put another length of tubing in place then use some spiral wrap electrical conduit by winding it into pace. A dab of redux here and there fixes it. Regards Bob Harrison. G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey J Paris Sent: 21 June 2008 12:24 Subject: Europa-List: Question on rudder cable bearing location? Dear Thread, A quick question? I am in the process of running my rudder cables. I am at the part of the instructions in which we fabricated the 20mm x 30mm Tufnil blocks that are to be located on the plywood triangle seat support ribs. When we place ours on the rib the cable ends up rubbing on the inside walls of the console. If we make new and deeper blocks I'm concerned with clearance of the landing gear (monowheel). Does anybody have pictures or run into the same problem. I may have just place the triangle rib supports a tad bit outboard than I should have. Thank you for your time and consideration. Cheers, Jeff Paris Kit # A012 Classic Monowheel _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:21 PM PST US From: Robert Borger Subject: Re: Europa-List: Question on rudder cable bearing location? Jeff, Check my build web site (URL in signature block). Go to album Year #3, Q1 2004. Down toward the bottom is a pic taken down the tunnel, looking aft, of the rudder cables, pulleys and the safety blocks. You can see the rudder cables coming out of the nylon, Nyloflow tubing. If this isn't what you want, let me know and I'll try to find a pic with the information you need. Good building and great flying, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL (95% done, only 95% to go) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module installed, pitch system in, landing gear complete, rudder system in with Singleton Mod, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in, baggage bay in. Fuel system complete. Rotax and Airmaster installed. Mods 62, 66, 70 & 72 done. Completed the instrument panel install. Europa interior kit being installed. Installed windows. Working in - 25 Electrical, 28 Flaps, 30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35 Doors, 37 Finishing. Mostly finishing these days. 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Jun 21, 2008, at 6:24, Jeffrey J Paris wrote: > > > > > Dear Thread, > > A quick question? I am in the process of running my rudder cables. > I am at the part of the instructions in which we fabricated the 20mm > x 30mm Tufnil blocks that are to be located on the plywood triangle > seat support ribs. When we place ours on the rib the cable ends up > rubbing on the inside walls of the console. If we make new and > deeper blocks I'm concerned with clearance of the landing gear > (monowheel). Does anybody have pictures or run into the same > problem. I may have just place the triangle rib supports a tad bit > outboard than I should have. > > Thank you for your time and consideration. > > Cheers, > > Jeff Paris Kit # A012 Classic Monowheel > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:04:14 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Europa-List: Re-routing coolant lines, 914UL/3 Cheers, I must revise the water circuit lines from the cylinder heads of #1 and #3 to the reservoir to accommodate the SD-20 alternator. This involves re-routing 17mm water tubes rearward which in turn requires swiveling the applicable bent tubes through the sockets on the heads by loosening the M6x20 Allen screws. If you have done this (I am a tyro) what precautions do you take to re-position and tighten the Allen screws on the sockets holding them? For examples, kindly see the WATER CIRCUIT, NEW STYLE and the CYLINDER HEAD, INTAKE MANIFOLD, FILTER parts diagrams. Thanks, Ferg Kyle ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:04:14 PM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Europa-List: Re-routing coolant lines, 914UL/3 Cheers, I must revise the water circuit lines from the cylinder heads of #1 and #3 to the reservoir to accommodate the SD-20 alternator. This involves re-routing 17mm water tubes rearward which in turn requires swiveling the applicable bent tubes through the sockets on the heads by loosening the M6x20 Allen screws. If you have done this (I am a tyro) what precautions do you take to re-position and tighten the Allen screws on the sockets holding them? For examples, kindly see the WATER CIRCUIT, NEW STYLE and the CYLINDER HEAD, INTAKE MANIFOLD, FILTER parts diagrams. Thanks, Ferg Kyle ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:24:08 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Main spar pins/bushes From: "raggi6771" For those of you who have had the same issues, I have found that i cant get the port side pin to install. The hole/bush in the CM is about 3 - 4mm too high so i have to move it. Question is do I move just to port side bush, or both to keep things even. My feeling is to move both so they can be reduxed in-situ and give me a very easy rigging, and also ensure that the wings are even with regard to elevators. The starboard bolt can be installed by hand in the port spar but is tight through the rear starboard wing spar. 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