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1. 12:54 AM - Re: Tri gear front bulkhead (Peter Jeffers)
2. 06:32 AM - Re: Dynon Temp Probe Location? (rampil)
3. 02:47 PM - Strobe problem (Bryan Allsop)
4. 04:35 PM - Re: Strobe problem (ALAN YERLY)
5. 07:04 PM - Re: Re: Dynon Temp Probe Location? (William Harrison)
6. 11:14 PM - Re: Strobe problem (Steve Pitt)
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Subject: | Tri gear front bulkhead |
Hi all,
So there you have it. If you want to fix a bulkhead in place then there is
no reason not to do so if you wish (Europa drawings were raised to construct
it from ply and have not been withdrawn yet). It is not practical to install
it if you are Mono, due retracting gear.
The metal fire proof bulkhead (or Singleton Resin bulkhead) is intended to
be fire, fume and smoke resistant so the need for another bulkhead may just
be gilding the lily and adding weight. Your choice at the end of the day.
In 1300 hours of flying Europas without this bulkhead, both mono & Tri, I
have never experienced fumes in the cockpit with the sole exception of when
carrying out stall testing. Perhaps a good stall warning!!! I doubt the
extra bulkhead would have stopped this smell as I suspect it enters via a
different route anyway.
Pete Jeffers
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Christoph Both
Sent: 24 June 2008 02:54
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tri gear front bulkhead
<christoph.both@acadiau.ca>
Folks,
A bulkhead keeps all the fumes from the engine compartment out of the
tunnel, where because of an slight lower pressure of the cabin during
flight (if you have done the air ventilation right) it will be partially
sucked into the cabin).
It takes only an hour or so to size the two 3mm plywood parts, and glass
them in (fix them with 5 minute epoxy!. The entire step took only 2
hours if I remember right. The bulkhead now serves me also beautifully
as mounting base for fuel pump and other smaller items (glider wing
spoiler mechanism bracket). It will also be protected on the engine
facing side with a stainless steel insulation blanket (Firewall 200,
Aircraft Spruce) to keep off heat and in case of fire being sucked
through (which it WILL because it follows the line of lower pressure out
under the belly) it will be stopped by this security blanket.
There is every reason for TRI to have a completely closing bulkhead.
Christoph Both
#223
Wolfville, Nova Scotia
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Stockton
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 8:48 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tri gear front bulkhead
If I read this correctly I do need need the bulkhead. Does the
stainless steel plating around the nose mount stop the air from going
down the tunnel area? I would think that the air is not stopped. I'm
wondering if there will be smells from the engine coming through the
tunnel.
Peter Jeffers <pjeffers@talktalk.net> wrote:
Hi Phillip,
I have followed up your enquiry re the bulkhead on Tri Gear
Europas with Roger Bull at the factory. It would seem there has been a
bit of lack of joined up action.
You are quite right to notice the issue of the instruction in
the Europa Aircraft News. At the time it was issued as a structural
requirement for Tri Gears only. Subsequent analysis by Barry Mellors at
the then PFA now LAA has shown that this bulkhead is not necessary.
This is why it never appeared in the manual. Unfortunately the factory
failed to issue any notice to this effect and hence your query.
I hope this helps
Pete Jeffers (Europa Club Inspector)
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Philip
Lincoln
Sent: 23 June 2008 10:50
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Tri gear front bulkhead
This was mentioned in the Tech Talk part of 'Europa Aircraft
News' from Dec. 1999 (Issue No.24). Has still not been added to the
manual as far as I can see.
I built it in before bonding in the Cockpit Module (tricky to do
after bonding I think...), i.e. it should probably be part of Ch.17. I
first measured the actual sizes that would be needed then cut and trimed
(the ply) to fit 'exactly'.
Have attached a photo of the page (can send the original to
anyone who wants/needs it).
Regards,
Philip Lincoln (Stockholm, Sweden, Kit 426)
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Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:15:29 -0700
From: aireupora@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Europa-List: Tri gear front bulkhead
To: europa-list@matronics.com
I have found one drawing of the front bulkhead that shows two
pieces cut to 260 x 260x3mm, but my opening is larger and I can't find
what chapter it addresses this bulkhead.
Checked by AVG.
7:52 AM
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Subject: | Re: Dynon Temp Probe Location? |
Hi Mike,
I have my OAT sited inside the cowl NACA vent on the lower stbd side.
It seems to work well except it heats up while standing still or taxiing
despite plenty of insulation on top apparently due to proximity to the radiator
in my 912ULS bird.
Makes my EFIS computed Density Altitude read kinda screwy while waiting
in line to take off.
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Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
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My strobe has stopped working! The problem could be with the wiring, the st
robe, or the box circuit.
Before I start reaching for the box in the confined spaces at the rear of t
he fuselage, I thought it would be worth while asking advice from others wh
o had the problem. Is there a sensible diagnostic procedure to avoid wastin
g time?
Bryan
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Subject: | Re: Strobe problem |
Bryan,
Go to whelen.com and view the Installation and service manual notes.
Check power and ground to the unit.
Ohm out from the unit to the wings.
Remove unit and bench test.
If a Whelen unit (especially the older ones) has set for a long while,
they need to be brought up to voltage slowly. I use a 9 volt drill
battery to charge it for 15-30 minutes if the plane has not been used in
a long time (12 months). Some of the units had a fuse inside the unit
that could be changed, but that was a long time ago. Newer units are
pretty full proof.
If the unit is getting power and not working, best to send it in. I
have repaired one in the shop at the customer support guys suggestion,
and it was a blown fuse. Unless you are familiar with the unit, do not
open it up and just poke around.
Whelen is great about a fast turn around on the box.
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight
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From: Bryan Allsop<mailto:bryanallsop@hotmail.com>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:43 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Strobe problem
My strobe has stopped working! The problem could be with the wiring,
the strobe, or the box circuit.
Before I start reaching for the box in the confined spaces at the rear
of the fuselage, I thought it would be worth while asking advice from
others who had the problem. Is there a sensible diagnostic procedure to
avoid wasting time?
Bryan
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Subject: | Re: Dynon Temp Probe Location? |
I've put mine just behind the starboard U/C legs. This gives a simple
wiring run to the remote compass (just above/behind the crew's heads)
and also away from exhaust or engine heat. It seems to agree
consistently with ATIS-reported temps to within one degree.
Willie
G-BZNY - now piling up the hours again after it's little rest.
On 24 Jun 2008, at 14:28, rampil wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I have my OAT sited inside the cowl NACA vent on the lower stbd side.
> It seems to work well except it heats up while standing still or
> taxiing
> despite plenty of insulation on top apparently due to proximity to
> the radiator in my 912ULS bird.
>
> Makes my EFIS computed Density Altitude read kinda screwy while
> waiting
> in line to take off.
>
> --------
> Ira N224XS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189549#189549
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Strobe problem |
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