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1. 02:04 AM - Rotax carb heaters (William Harrison)
2. 02:21 AM - Re: Rotax carb heaters (rick)
3. 02:49 AM - Re: Rotax carb heaters (Carl Pattinson)
4. 03:20 AM - Re: Rotax carb heaters (craig bastin)
5. 07:37 AM - Re: Re: Rotax carb heaters (JEFF ROBERTS)
6. 08:00 AM - Re: FW: (N714GZ) (Mike Parkin)
7. 09:44 AM - Re: Rotax carb heaters (G-IANI)
8. 10:19 AM - Re: FW: (N714GZ) (Alan Burrows)
9. 01:16 PM - Re: Rotax carb heaters (Raimo Toivio)
10. 02:23 PM - Re: Rotax carb heaters ()
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Subject: | Rotax carb heaters |
Folks, 2 questions:
1. What experience does anyone have of electric or coolant-based carb
heaters for Rotax engines?
2. Can anyone tell me whether either of these is regarded as a
standard mod by the LAA?
Many thanks in advance.
Willie Harrison
G-BZNY
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Subject: | Rotax carb heaters |
Hi Willie
How's it?
I've used the Skydrive jackets for 4 years and 400 hours with never a
problem. I would automatically fit them if I did another 912 kit.
Not a issue with the LAA as far as I can remember.
Incidentally a lot of the Vans owning guys are looking jealously at our fuel
figures at the moment!!
All the best
Rick
G-RIKS Tri 912S
G-RMRV IO-360 RV7A
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Harrison
Sent: 27 June 2008 10:01
Subject: Europa-List: Rotax carb heaters
--> <willie.harrison@tinyonline.co.uk>
Folks, 2 questions:
1. What experience does anyone have of electric or coolant-based carb
heaters for Rotax engines?
2. Can anyone tell me whether either of these is regarded as a standard mod
by the LAA?
Many thanks in advance.
Willie Harrison
G-BZNY
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Subject: | Re: Rotax carb heaters |
The Skydrive kit is an accepted engine mod and you shouldnt have a problem with
then PFA.
The electric ones as far as I know are not an approved mod for the Europa unless
someone has done this privately. I beleive it may be approved for Jabiru installations.
The Skydrive ones seem to be problem free and do not affect engine performance.
They are left permanantly turned on so require no management like conventional
carb heat systems.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190050#190050
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Subject: | Rotax carb heaters |
"Incidentally a lot of the Vans owning guys are looking jealously at our
fuel
figures at the moment!!"
given the price of fuel now and the performace of the Europa I bet a lot of
the Cessna and piper
owners would be too.
It's great when your plane gets better fuel economy than your car as well
: )
craig
Checked by AVG.
11:20 AM
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Subject: | Re: Rotax carb heaters |
On Jun 27, 2008, at 4:46 AM, Carl Pattinson wrote:
> The Skydrive ones seem to be problem free and do not affect engine
> performance. They are left permanantly turned on so require no
> management like conventional carb heat systems.
You will want to install a simple on off 1/4 inch fuel valve on the sky
drive carb heat coolant line. Before I did that my carbs were boiling
fuel on hot summer days. Now I just pull the small knob under the panel
if I want carb heat. The sky drive system works great. Just don't leave
it on all the time if you taxi in hot weather on the hot tarmac.
Regards
Jeff R.
A258 - N128LJ / Gold Rush 127 hours and finally cooling nicely.
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190050#190050
>
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Just brilliant. Can you imagine the fuss by the CAA/Police in UK.
Regards,
Mike
Do not archive
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert C
Harrison
Sent: 27 June 2008 06:02
Subject: Europa-List: FW: (N714GZ)
Hi! All
Only slightly "off topic", yes sure enough reg No. N714GZ is in my log book
! It is interesting to see the attitude of the law in the USA ..compared to
what it would be here in the UK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is also interesting to
see that the aircraft has survived probably thousands of hours whilst being
abused by many training pilots at Ormond Beach Training School. Like a trip
back in time, what ?
Regards
Bob H G-PTAG
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From: John Moar [mailto:johnmoar@hotmail.co.uk]
Sent: 26 June 2008 23:22
Subject: FW: (N714GZ)
Hi Bob,
I was sent this link today, it is one of the E-Mails that is circling around
at work just now. I recognised the registration as one of the old Cessnas
that I have flown on a few occasions, it may be in your log book also!
Best regards,
John.
PS, say hi to Jan from me please!
>
>
http://www.news-journalonline.com/media/index.htm?bcpid=1541042960&bclid=113
4198054&bctid=1612710891
>
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Subject: | Rotax carb heaters |
All the paperwork is done for the Skydrive Carb heaters to be a standard
mod. I will send you a copy off list. I first submitted them in 2005 (in
conjunction with Skydrive) and they just sat on Francis's desk.
In April this year Andy Draper agreed that they should form part of a series
of mods for 91X engines, rather than being a Europa mod. So I resubmitted
the application on 18th April. So far nothing has happened.
Despite all this there should be no problem with the Mod but I do wish LAA
would do its paper work and make everybody's life a little simpler.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours
Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk
or direct g-iani@ntlworld.
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Hi Mike & Bob
Actually, I can just imagine the grief the pilot got from the owner Adrian
Thompson.
I suspect that was far worse than anything the CAA or FAA could come up
with.
Hell hath no fury like Mr. Thompson after someone has done something
"interesting"
I too have N714GZ in my logbook from days gone by J
Alan
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Parkin
Sent: 27 June 2008 15:57
Subject: RE: Europa-List: FW: (N714GZ)
Just brilliant. Can you imagine the fuss by the CAA/Police in UK.
Regards,
Mike
Do not archive
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert C
Harrison
Sent: 27 June 2008 06:02
Subject: Europa-List: FW: (N714GZ)
Hi! All
Only slightly "off topic", yes sure enough reg No. N714GZ is in my log book
! It is interesting to see the attitude of the law in the USA ..compared to
what it would be here in the UK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is also interesting to
see that the aircraft has survived probably thousands of hours whilst being
abused by many training pilots at Ormond Beach Training School. Like a trip
back in time, what ?
Regards
Bob H G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: John Moar [mailto:johnmoar@hotmail.co.uk]
Sent: 26 June 2008 23:22
Subject: FW: (N714GZ)
Hi Bob,
I was sent this link today, it is one of the E-Mails that is circling around
at work just now. I recognised the registration as one of the old Cessnas
that I have flown on a few occasions, it may be in your log book also!
Best regards,
John.
PS, say hi to Jan from me please!
>
>
http://www.news-journalonline.com/media/index.htm?bcpid=1541042960&bclid=113
4198054&bctid=1612710891
>
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Subject: | Re: Rotax carb heaters |
1) I have cbchs and I am happy. So far no icing and flying almost all the time
in icing conditions.
Think it is wise: air is cool and carburrettor body is warm. Mine is always on
- no valve.
Raimo OH-XRT, between strikes again
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Harrison" <willie.harrison@tinyonline.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:01 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Rotax carb heaters
>
> Folks, 2 questions:
>
> 1. What experience does anyone have of electric or coolant-based carb
> heaters for Rotax engines?
>
> 2. Can anyone tell me whether either of these is regarded as a
> standard mod by the LAA?
>
> Many thanks in advance.
>
> Willie Harrison
> G-BZNY
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Rotax carb heaters |
On the subject of carb. ice, has anyone gotten carb. ice on a 914? If yes
were you able to get rid of it by boosting manifold pressure?
Does anyone run water or electric carb heat on a 914?
Ron Parigoris
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