---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/29/08: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:18 AM - Re: Rotax carb heaters (A B Milne) 2. 02:25 AM - Re: monowheel centre console bulkhead (G-IANI) 3. 05:44 AM - Re: Fuel pipes (rampil) 4. 11:14 AM - Re: mono brake mounting (Rowland Carson) 5. 03:37 PM - Re: mono brake mounting (josok) 6. 04:35 PM - Re: mono brake mounting (JohnDHeykoop@aol.com) 7. 10:39 PM - What's wrong with flying in June? (Robert C Harrison) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:48 AM PST US From: "A B Milne" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rotax carb heaters Willie, In my XS Trigear G-CBYN I have 450 hours behind a non induction heated 912S and 100 hours on one with a coolant heated connector on the manifold side of the carb as supplied by Skydrive. The former has regularily given a burble as ice is swallowed from each carb. Before the burble the effect of the ice on performance is unnoticeable. The twitches generated on me are not. With the heater I have never had a suggestion of the burble. The heating is effective and I am sticking with it on the new aircraft. Installation is simple but moves the intake plenum chamber rearwards about 15mm. The inspector did not consider it as a mod and just signed up the logbook. Alasdair Milne ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Harrison" Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:01 AM Subject: Europa-List: Rotax carb heaters > > > Folks, 2 questions: > > 1. What experience does anyone have of electric or coolant-based carb > heaters for Rotax engines? > > 2. Can anyone tell me whether either of these is regarded as a standard > mod by the LAA? > > Many thanks in advance. > > Willie Harrison > G-BZNY > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:57 AM PST US From: "G-IANI" Subject: RE: Europa-List: monowheel centre console bulkhead Roland "Anyone see any reason why I shouldn't put a layer of BID on the "weather" side of that bulkhead? I certainly don't want to leave a raw piece of ply open to everything the wheel will throw up." Do not put a layer of BID on ONE side of the bulkhead do BOTH sides. Just coating the back with epoxy is nearly as good as it keep the moisture out but the additional weight of the glass is minimal. If you do not seal the back the ply will warp. Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 200 hours Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) e-mail mods@europaclub.org.uk or direct g-iani@ntlworld.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:44:50 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fuel pipes From: "rampil" Speaking from a wear, longevity, and solvent resistant standpoint, Aeroquip 666 is the best choice. Teflon interior with a conductive stripe to prevent static charge, no fixed service life, etc. The problem is that it will not slide over Europa or Rotax slide on fittings. The new rotax fuel hoses require new fittings on the carbs and a new fuel pump with new fittings. -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=190369#190369 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:14:46 AM PST US From: Rowland Carson Subject: Re: Europa-List: mono brake mounting At 2008-06-28 21:58 -0400 JohnDHeykoop@aol.com wrote: >There is a metal insert in the tunnel wall (the area you call the >"plain resin area"). The mounting holes need to go in this area, >parallel to the top of the tunnel John - thanks for that confirmation. So, if the cylinder is parallel to the top of the tunnel, the filling hole will be at the lower end of the cylinder. How does the air in the upper end of the cylinder get expelled when trying to fill the brake system with fluid or to bleed it? All sounds potentially messy. Seems it would be better if the cylinder was tilted downwards at the front so the filler hole was at the highest point of the cylinder - of course that would reduce the length of lever available above the tunnel so would probably be undesirable. I suppose one answer would be to tilt the whole fuselage tail-up when filling the brake system .... regards Rowland -- | Rowland Carson LAA #16532 http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/ | 1030 hours building Europa #435 G-ROWI e-mail ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:37:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: mono brake mounting From: "josok" Hi Rowland, In the mean time i filled the brake system several times. First time before the first flight, second and third time because there was a leak at the top connection of the nylon tube, (too tight is not good here), and the last time when the tube got loose after my wheel up landing. It's not that difficult to get the air out. I squeeze the oil from the bottom up, until it runs out of the slightly opened filler hole. Be prepared to catch the oil with a cloth or paper though! And eh, where there has been oil, paint will never stick, whatever cleaning you do. Better to wait with the filling till after the paint job. Regards, Jos Okhuijsen Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:35:18 PM PST US From: JohnDHeykoop@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: mono brake mounting In a message dated 29/06/2008 19:15:22 GMT Standard Time, rowlandcarson@googlemail.com writes: So, if the cylinder is parallel to the top of the tunnel, the filling hole will be at the lower end of the cylinder. How does the air in the upper end of the cylinder get expelled when trying to fill the brake system with fluid or to bleed it? All sounds potentially messy. Seems it would be better if the cylinder was tilted downwards at the front so the filler hole was at the highest point of the cylinder - of course that would reduce the length of lever available above the tunnel so would probably be undesirable. I suppose one answer would be to tilt the whole fuselage tail-up when filling the brake system Rowland Don't worry about bleeding the brake system - other people have managed to do it. If you deviate from the manual and fit the cylinder tilting downwards you could potentially run into much more serious problems, like not being able to retract the wheel fully. John ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:39:04 PM PST US From: "Robert C Harrison" Subject: Europa-List: What's wrong with flying in June? Hi! All I must pass on my eternal thanks to Ivor Phillips with his "just flight tested" 'plane G-IVER for his support by attending my Scandinavian Tour and also attending the Wickenby Wings and Wheels event yesterday and Saturday. I am disappointed though that both events, I think, finished up as just "two ship" events.( I was unable to stay over Saturday afternoon so should any one have dropped in then I just may have missed them) Wickenby had a whole weekend of events Tank and Recovery Equipment, Traction Engine, Classic Cars, model Aircraft and unexploded bombs and full time hog roasts and was well attended by other "breeds" of aircraft but Europa aircraft were sadly conspicuous by their absence. G-PTAG was on display semi assembled with it's covered trailer and at least Ivor's attendance with his wife Mona demonstrated that they do really fly! There is a good chance that the same dates for Wickenby will be used next year so please get them highlighted as a must do in your 2009 diary's. (Report to follow on the Scandinavian Tour) regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.