---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/31/08: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:57 AM - Re: AOA, RiteAngle (EMAproducts@aol.com) 2. 09:56 AM - sight tube too aged (Greg Fuchs) 3. 11:50 AM - Re: Re: AOA, RiteAngle (Graham Singleton) 4. 01:59 PM - Re: sight tube too aged (david miller) 5. 10:09 PM - Re: sight tube too aged (Fred Klein) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:57:58 AM PST US From: EMAproducts@aol.com Subject: Europa-List: Re: AOA, RiteAngle Elbie, You have me! I admit I was unaware of your product and let me apologise. If I ask you here, perhaps it won't appear to be advertising since you were questioned. Ferg Kyle No offense taken Ferg! I have never produced an AOA with a needle & Dial, though did some experimenting with them for many years, from the late 60's to '91 prior to going to LEDs I attended Sun N Fun , Oshkosh, Arlington having a booth and giving forums from about 96 to '05 and finally decided the shows were so expensive that unless I really raised the price of my product it wasn't worth the cost & effort. Not that I didnt' like going to the shows, but the reality crept in that it wasn't helping the bottom line any. I have advertised in the Sport Aviation and Experimenter for well over 10 years, could be that isn't very productive either :-) Our "Poor Mans HUD" is basically just that we use Ultra bright LED's, bury under the glare shield, and angle so the LED's are reflected on the windscreen, works just as good as the multi thousand dollar system. Think of it, anything you lay on the panel reflects ~~ right where you want to look! All you see in the windscreen is a little series of colored dots, all 3 green you are on speed, amber slow, red stall warning. Will answer other questions off line, don't want to interfere with the main purpose of these lists, helping the builder This can be refined with a short tube to make the light more intense and sharply defined. I'm still striving to give the best safety product at the lowest price. Elbie _www.riteangle.com_ (http://www.riteangle.com) **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:56:55 AM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: Europa-List: sight tube too aged Although unused, I am not sure of the condition of the sight tube. It has small discolored spots at about 2 foot intervals. It seems hard, but maybe no worse than originally supplied? It does not seem to bend real easy. If I grip it with the thumb and pointer finger and squeeze as hard as I can, I cannot get the sidewalls to touch. It compresses about half ways. Assuming I don't need to work out and strengthen my fingers, is this normal for this hose? What is it like brand new?? All answers welcome. I am ready to install this stuff, so now would be the time to chuck it too, and find a replacement of some sort. Thanks for all responses, Greg Fuchs ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:50:54 AM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: AOA, RiteAngle Elbie just a though, sure, shows are expensive but it is cheaper for you that all your customers visit you at a show than you go and visit them ;-) I'm impressed with your description of the "poor man's HUD" btw Graham EMAproducts@aol.com wrote: > No offense taken Ferg! > I have never produced an AOA with a needle & Dial, though did some > experimenting with them for many years, from the late 60's to > '91 prior to going to LEDs I attended Sun N Fun , Oshkosh, Arlington > having a booth and giving forums from about 96 to '05 and finally > decided the shows were so expensive that unless I really raised the > price of my product it wasn't worth the cost & effort. Not that I > didnt' like going to the shows, but the reality crept in that it > wasn't helping the bottom line any. I have advertised in the Sport > Aviation and Experimenter for well over 10 years, could be that isn't > very productive either :-) > Our "Poor Mans HUD" is basically just that we use Ultra bright LED's, > bury under the glare shield, and angle so the LED's are reflected on > the windscreen, works just as good as the multi thousand dollar > system. Think of it, anything you lay on the panel reflects ~~ right > where you want to look! All you see in the windscreen is a little > series of colored dots, all 3 green you are on speed, amber slow, red > stall warning. > Will answer other questions off line, don't want to interfere with the > main purpose of these lists, helping the builder This can be refined > with a short tube to make the light more intense and sharply defined. > I'm still striving to give the best safety product at the lowest price. > Elbie > www.riteangle.com > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:59:50 PM PST US From: david miller Subject: Re: Europa-List: sight tube too aged Greg, I'd throw it out, especially if you intend to use Mogas. There were a couple of good postings earlier this year, where the builders had used PVC sight tubes, perhaps you can track them down in the archives, or maybe they will be re-posted ( from John L and Fred K I think ) Dave C-FBZI On 31-Jul-08, at 12:51 PM, Greg Fuchs wrote: > > > Although unused, I am not sure of the condition of the sight tube. > It has small discolored spots at about 2 foot intervals. > > It seems hard, but maybe no worse than originally supplied? It > does not seem to bend real easy. If I grip it with the thumb and > pointer finger and squeeze as hard as I can, I cannot get the > sidewalls to touch. It compresses about half ways. Assuming I don=92t > need to work out and strengthen my fingers, is this normal for this > hose? What is it like brand new?? All answers welcome. I am ready > to install this stuff, so now would be the time to chuck it too, > and find a replacement of some sort. > > > Thanks for all responses, > > Greg Fuchs > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:09:36 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: sight tube too aged From: Fred Klein Greg, Dave refers in part to a post of mine a year back...relevant portion as follows: >> clear PVC pipe w/ 0.33" i.d. (sold by ACS as P/N 03-54100, Quickie >> sight gauge I've threaded this pipe for some 90 degree fittings and use it for the sight gauge proper and connect it to some flex tubing from the gascolator and for venting....not at all sure as to how it will perform, but I'm hoping it will be more readable and durable than the flex tubing. Fred A194 On Thursday, Jul 31, 2008, at 14:03 US/Pacific, david miller wrote: > Greg, > > I'd throw it out, especially if you intend to use Mogas. > There were a couple of good postings earlier this year, where the > builders had used PVC sight tubes, > perhaps you can track them down in the archives, or maybe they will be > re-posted ( from John L and Fred K I think ) > > Dave C-FBZI > On 31-Jul-08, at 12:51 PM, Greg Fuchs wrote: > > - > > - > > Although unused, I am not sure of the condition of the sight tube. It > has small discolored spots at about 2 foot intervals. > > It seems hard, but maybe no worse than originally supplied?- It does > not seem to bend real easy.- If I grip it with the thumb and pointer > finger and squeeze as hard as I can, I cannot get the sidewalls to > touch. It compresses about half ways. Assuming I don=92t need to work > out and strengthen my fingers, is this normal for this hose?- What is > it like brand new?? 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