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1. 09:59 AM - BBC E-mail: Plane hits power lines (Bob)
2. 10:19 AM - A very lucky escape from power lines (Bob Hitchcock)
3. 12:19 PM - Terra avionics (Tony Crowe)
4. 12:55 PM - Europa aerial (Mike Gamble)
5. 02:08 PM - Re: A very lucky escape from power lines (Graham Singleton)
6. 02:51 PM - Re: Europa aerial (David Joyce)
7. 02:59 PM - Re: A very lucky escape from power lines (R Holder)
8. 03:11 PM - Re: Re: Europa - roll control washers etc. (Rowland Carson)
9. 03:11 PM - Re: roll control tufnol bearings (Rowland Carson)
10. 03:53 PM - Re: roll control tufnol bearings (Jeff B)
11. 04:45 PM - Re: A very lucky escape from power lines (Graham Singleton)
12. 04:58 PM - Re: A very lucky escape from power lines (Greg Fuchs)
13. 05:30 PM - Re: A very lucky escape from power lines (Greg Fuchs)
14. 07:33 PM - Re: A very lucky escape from power lines (europaman)
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| Subject: | BBC E-mail: Plane hits power lines |
Bob saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you
should see it.
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What an escape!
** Plane hits power lines **
Two people have been rescued from a light aircraft which hit power lines in southern
Germany.
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| Subject: | A very lucky escape from power lines |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqhS2G4nrVk
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Does anyone have any circuit diagrams for any of the digital Terra
avionics.
Thanks
Tony
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Does anybody have a measurement of the final length of the tape aerial
mounted in the fin of the Europa after adjustment with the SWR gadget?
Is there any reason why I should not paint over the aerial with rest of
the fin closeout ?
Thanks
Mike Gamble
Finally getting ready for the paint-shop.
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| Subject: | Re: A very lucky escape from power lines |
Bob Hitchcock wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqhS2G4nrVk
Wonder who that was, looks like a Europa Classic! D-ELPR
G
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| Subject: | Re: Europa aerial |
Mike, Is there any reason to paint the tail close out, or the other close
outs for that matter? David Joyce, G-XSDJ (with naked close outs!)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Gamble" <mp.gamble@tiscali.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 8:53 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Europa aerial
Does anybody have a measurement of the final length of the tape aerial
mounted in the fin of the Europa after adjustment with the SWR gadget?
Is there any reason why I should not paint over the aerial with rest of the
fin closeout ?
Thanks
Mike Gamble
Finally getting ready for the paint-shop.
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| Subject: | Re: A very lucky escape from power lines |
Graham Singleton wrote:
> <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqhS2G4nrVk
> Wonder who that was, looks like a Europa Classic! D-ELPR
> G
My members list shows
Joachim Hohenstein D-ELPR # 190
Well spotted Graham !
Richard
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| Subject: | Re: Europa - roll control washers etc. |
At 2008-08-15 20:05 +0100 Rowland Carson wrote:
>At 2008-08-15 10:04 -0700 Fred Klein wrote:
>
>>The nature of the interface between the AN bolt heads and the
>>bearing surface IMHO warrants the use of the AN960-10L washers
Fred - Roger at the factory today confirms that those washers should be used.
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: roll control tufnol bearings |
At 2008-08-15 20:05 +0100 Rowland Carson wrote:
>At 2008-08-15 09:41 -0400 Peter Zutrauen wrote:
>
>>Although I have *no* insight at all, I would wonder if the tufnol
>>material would absorb oil/grease and swell
>>If you receive or find the answer of tufnol compatible lubrication,
>>I'd be grateful if you could pass the info along
Pete - the definitive answer from Neville Eyre via Roger is that any
sort of grease is probably best kept away from the cut edges of the
Tufnol, because it's likely to cause swelling. Apart from directly
affecting the integrity of the Tufnol, grease is also likely to act
as a magnet for dust etc which would turn it into grinding paste.
The manual suggests wiping the faces of CS04 with grease before
assembling the CS02-CS03-CS04 cluster - but that should only be
applied to the glassy as-manufactured surfaces, not the cut edges or
bore of the hole. The only lubricant Neville would accept for the
bore is PTFE. I have never seen it myself but apparently it can be
got as a spray which is solid particles in a rapid-evaporating
propellant.
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: roll control tufnol bearings |
Rowland,
PTFE is teflon. Quite common in spray form...
Jeff - Baby Blue
Rowland Carson wrote:
>
> At 2008-08-15 20:05 +0100 Rowland Carson wrote:
>
>> At 2008-08-15 09:41 -0400 Peter Zutrauen wrote:
>>
>>> Although I have *no* insight at all, I would wonder if the tufnol
>>> material would absorb oil/grease and swell
>
>
>>> If you receive or find the answer of tufnol compatible lubrication,
>>> I'd be grateful if you could pass the info along
>
> Pete - the definitive answer from Neville Eyre via Roger is that any
> sort of grease is probably best kept away from the cut edges of the
> Tufnol, because it's likely to cause swelling. Apart from directly
> affecting the integrity of the Tufnol, grease is also likely to act as a
> magnet for dust etc which would turn it into grinding paste.
>
> The manual suggests wiping the faces of CS04 with grease before
> assembling the CS02-CS03-CS04 cluster - but that should only be applied
> to the glassy as-manufactured surfaces, not the cut edges or bore of the
> hole. The only lubricant Neville would accept for the bore is PTFE. I
> have never seen it myself but apparently it can be got as a spray which
> is solid particles in a rapid-evaporating propellant.
>
> regards
>
> Rowland
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| Subject: | Re: A very lucky escape from power lines |
The aeroplane didn't look damaged either. Wonder if they got it down
without spoiling it?
Graham
R Holder wrote:
>
> Graham Singleton wrote:
>> <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqhS2G4nrVk
>> Wonder who that was, looks like a Europa Classic! D-ELPR
>> G
>
> My members list shows
>
> Joachim Hohenstein D-ELPR # 190
>
> Well spotted Graham !
>
> Richard
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| Subject: | A very lucky escape from power lines |
Well done! Lucky the plane hung on, and that it wasn't gusty. After rescuing
the pilot/passenger, I wonder how they got the plane down. Hopefully it was
done nicely, and will fly soon (by recovered pilot himself).
Do not archive
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| Subject: | A very lucky escape from power lines |
Some more links:
http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/news/article-1046392/Pictured-Pilots-miracle-e
scape-tangle-high-voltage-power-lines.html
http://www.watoday.com.au/world/plane-clips-power-lines-hangs-upside-down-fo
r-three-hours-20080819-3xrl.html
according to the video here, the plane still hangs there:
http://itn.co.uk/news/f722776cf590fcf81726261ecd33712c.html
http://timesnow.tv/Newsdtls.aspx?NewsID=13894
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Fuchs
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 4:57 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: A very lucky escape from power lines
<gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net>
Well done! Lucky the plane hung on, and that it wasn't gusty. After rescuing
the pilot/passenger, I wonder how they got the plane down. Hopefully it was
done nicely, and will fly soon (by recovered pilot himself).
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: A very lucky escape from power lines |
I immediately recognized it as a Europa Classic Tri-Gear when I saw it on Fox News
this evening. Sheppard Smith was doing his around the world in 80 seconds
and they showed a brief shot of it. I knew I'd find the story here too. Wow they
were lucky. Hope they got the plane down too without breaking it. Troy
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