---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/19/08: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:49 AM - Re: XS Trailer (C Richardson) 2. 04:41 AM - Re: XS Trailer (Mike Gamble) 3. 07:21 AM - filling... (Fergus Kyle) 4. 08:01 AM - Rotax 914 (Fergus Kyle) 5. 08:24 AM - Re: XS Trailer (Jerry Rehn) 6. 09:08 AM - Re: XS Trailer (Tom Friedland) 7. 02:44 PM - Re: filling... (JR Gowing) 8. 02:48 PM - Minimum practical field length (Peter Zutrauen) 9. 03:12 PM - Re: Minimum practical field length (Karl Heindl) 10. 03:15 PM - Re: Minimum practical field length (Jeff B) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:25 AM PST US From: "C Richardson" Subject: Re: Europa-List: XS Trailer Mike, My trailer accomodated the Mono which had the extended tailwheel mod. i.e. the tailwheel was not under the fuselage as per the early Monos. The tailwheel was under the rudder and the trailer accomodates this. Hope this helps. When you get a figure I will measure my trailer to prevent a wasted journey Regards John. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Gamble To: Europa-List@Matronics.Com Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:53 PM Subject: Europa-List: XS Trailer Would somebody with access to a europa XS monowheel trailer please measure and let me have the length of the tailwheel track from the rear face of the main wheel support to the forward end before the tow hitch. I need to know the minimum length of track needed to accommodate the extended tailwheel of the XS. Thanks Mike ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:41:40 AM PST US From: "Mike Gamble" Subject: Re: Europa-List: XS Trailer Thanks Jerry - just what I needed. I understand that is for the extended tailwheel XS? Mike ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:42 AM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Europa-List: filling... Cheers, I read the article on filling the big areas wiuth great interest, and 3 years too late. Nevertheless it is a good treatise on the art. I have but one question to ask, because I pre-wetted the application area with pure epoxy (if barely VERY sparingly, i.e: "one- atom-sheen") and left it a few minutes to 'set'. Then applied mix. I quote from the lesson - "Some people squeegee pure resin on the surface to wet it out just prior applying the micro. I see no reason or purpose of that, I think they got it from the way the plaster skim coat is applied on the drywall." - and later - "but then when the surface starts to get wetted out, it goes on Pretty smooth."\ Have I made my point? Fair winds, Ferg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:06 AM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Europa-List: Rotax 914 Cheers, I'm sending this as a backup to a message in the Rotax list. I have wired the ignition wires, grounded the coaxial braid right at the engine block adjacent to the modules, through BNC coax connectors at the firewall and to BNCs at the alum boxes which house the switches. All this, as a result of having chased breakthrough from ignition noise for the last thirty years. Neither my switches or their boxes are grounded anywhere but at the one site above , i.e: they are 'floating', as is the panel they're on. HOWEVER, if one examines the electrical diagram, page 75 in the Installation manual, the coax is shown grounded near the switches, rather than down near the modules, the boxes are grounded elsewhere (wrong) as are the switches. I write this to affirm in my own mind that the coax around the ignition lines are grounded ONLY at the engine block nearby, if noise is to be reduced. This comes from chasing ignition noise since 1963. Happy Landings Ferg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:47 AM PST US From: "Jerry Rehn" Subject: RE: Europa-List: XS Trailer Yea, I have an XS. _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Gamble Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 4:41 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: XS Trailer Thanks Jerry - just what I needed. I understand that is for the extended tailwheel XS? Mike ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:38 AM PST US From: "Tom Friedland" <96victor@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Europa-List: XS Trailer Mike, my factory XS trailer for the extended tailwheel measures 15 ft 1 inch for the dimension you asked for. It is a bit short and caused me to have to mount a winch partway over the hitch in order to have adequate lengh. Tom Friedland On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Jerry Rehn wrote: > Yea, I have an XS. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Gamble > *Sent:* Friday, September 19, 2008 4:41 AM > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: XS Trailer > > > Thanks Jerry - just what I needed. I understand that is for the extended > tailwheel XS? > > Mike > > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > > * * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:44:04 PM PST US From: "JR Gowing" Subject: Re: Europa-List: filling... Ferg I have not yet wetted the target area with any epoxy but relied on some coming out otf the mixed filler. It has always stuck. JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz and trying to shape up the filler on the wings. Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fergus Kyle" Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 12:20 AM Subject: Europa-List: filling... > Cheers, > I read the article on filling the big areas wiuth great interest, > and 3 years > too late. Nevertheless it is a good treatise on the art. > I have but one question to ask, because I pre-wetted the application > area with pure epoxy (if barely VERY sparingly, i.e: "one- atom-sheen") > and > left it a few minutes to 'set'. Then applied mix. > I quote from the lesson - > > "Some people squeegee pure resin on the surface to wet it out just prior > applying the micro. I see no reason or purpose of that, I think they got > it from the way the plaster skim coat is applied on the drywall." > > - and later - > "but then when the surface starts to get wetted out, it goes on Pretty > smooth."\ > > Have I made my point? > Fair winds, Ferg > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Checked by AVG. 5:03 PM -- ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:48:18 PM PST US From: "Peter Zutrauen" Subject: Europa-List: Minimum practical field length A question for all you lucky Europa fliers out there: If one was to look for an agricultural property to set up a strip on, what is the minimum practical and safe turf runway length (assuming 50ft obst clearance) for an XS with 912S at factory spec'd Gross weight near sea level on a standard day? 1500ft? 2000ft? longer? Curious, Pete A239 Still a pile of parts ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:12:53 PM PST US From: Karl Heindl Subject: RE: Europa-List: Minimum practical field length Hi Pete=2C I think 2000 would be okay. I am usually airborne at 600=2C but you need ex tra just in case. I recently attempted to take off with my brakes on. I did get airborne=2C b ut it didn't feel right and I aborted okay within our 2300 foot strip. Cheers=2C Karl
-list@matronics.comSubject: Europa-List: Minimum practical field length A question for all you lucky Europa fliers out there: If one was to look for an agricultural property to set up a strip on=2C wha t is the minimum practical and safe turf runway length (assuming 50ft obst clearance) for an XS with 912S at factory spec'd Gross weight near sea leve l on a standard day? 1500ft? 2000ft? longer? Curious=2C Pete A239 Still a pile of parts ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:15:32 PM PST US From: Jeff B Subject: Re: Europa-List: Minimum practical field length Under my field conditions, with my tri-gear, I'd want 2000'. Jeff - Baby Blue Peter Zutrauen wrote: > A question for all you lucky Europa fliers out there: > > If one was to look for an agricultural property to set up a strip on, > what is the minimum practical and safe turf runway length (assuming 50ft > obst clearance) for an XS with 912S at factory spec'd Gross weight near > sea level on a standard day? 1500ft? 2000ft? longer? > > Curious, > Pete > A239 > Still a pile of parts > > * > > > * > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.