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1. 12:55 AM - Re: Adjusting the tailplanes (danbish)
2. 01:28 AM - Re: cockpit module alignment (Robert C Harrison)
3. 01:35 AM - Re: Adjusting the tailplanes (Robert C Harrison)
4. 01:40 AM - Re: oil problems (Robert C Harrison)
5. 03:15 AM - Re: Re: Would like to buy an XS monowheel...............Am I mad or (Roger Mills)
6. 03:18 AM - Re: oil problems (danny shepherd)
7. 04:17 AM - Re: cockpit module alignment (Paul Atkinson)
8. 04:51 AM - Re: Re: Would like to buy an XS monowheel...............Am I mad or (nigel charles)
9. 05:41 AM - Re: back in the Air ... (N81EU) (Fred Klein)
10. 06:09 AM - Re: Re: Would like to buy an XS monowheel...............Am I mad or (joseph brannen)
11. 09:38 AM - Re: back in the Air ... (N81EU) (Kim Prout)
12. 10:59 AM - Re: cockpit module alignment (Rowland & Wilma Carson)
13. 11:21 AM - Re: Re: Would like to buy an XS monowheel...............Am I mad or (Paul McAllister)
14. 11:24 AM - Re: Adjusting the tailplanes (danbish)
15. 02:29 PM - Re: cockpit module alignment (Rowland & Wilma Carson)
16. 02:29 PM - Re: cockpit module alignment (Rowland & Wilma Carson)
17. 02:29 PM - Re: cockpit module alignment (Rowland & Wilma Carson)
18. 02:29 PM - Re: cockpit module alignment (Rowland & Wilma Carson)
19. 02:29 PM - Re: cockpit module alignment (Rowland & Wilma Carson)
20. 02:42 PM - Re: Re: Would like to buy an XS monowheel...............Am I mad or (karelvranken)
21. 04:06 PM - Re: Re: Would like to buy an XS monowheel...............Am I mad or (Garry)
22. 06:04 PM - Re: oil problems (Erich Trombley)
23. 07:50 PM - Re: Re: Would like to buy an XS monowheel...............Am I mad or (Robert Borger)
24. 08:30 PM - Re: Re: Would like to buy an XS monowheel...............Am I mad or (Kingsley Hurst)
25. 08:52 PM - Re: cockpit module alignment (Kingsley Hurst)
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Subject: | Re: Adjusting the tailplanes |
I was able to figure it out tonight, it wasn't as much trouble as I thought it
was going to be.
After removing the weights and cables from the TP18 rod and disconnecting it so
I could adjust it, unscrewing it has the effect of increasing the up direction
without affecting the down position much. I was able to get both to 13.3 deg
up and 5.0 deg down. The .3 will come out when I add a bit of cushion to the
top of the mass balance tower.
I measured from the middle of the tailplane, at the outside point of the trim tab.
I assume this isn't critical.
I feel like I got it nail this time. Thanks for the input.
Dan
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Subject: | cockpit module alignment |
Hi! Rowland.
No pictures received, however seems to me that you are expecting the
structure to take your weight before bonding without the stiffening
provided by the bonding. This is not how it all works !
Assuming the control stick movements are not stiff prior to bonding the
CM in place (perhaps you can recall my oscillating with brasso etc.
items to free off? Also check you have the assembly rivets correctly
oriented in the control tubes (if the push rods have rivets at the top
and bottom they can rub against the larger torque tubes internally, they
need to be off the vertical centre line)
Firstly put a nice (considerable radius) on the corners of the CS07/08
items. With a dummy run of module inserted and fuselage very adquately
supported so that the sides are the correct width (without stress).Then
mark out all the places that the CM abuts or is supposed to abut the
fuselage. Remove the CM and apply thick layers of stiff Redux to the
previously marked areas. Then apply similar redux to the mating areas of
the CM. Then carefully lift the CM into place allowing it to settle down
without undue bending pressure likley to deform it from it's natural
shape.
The redux where too thick will squelch out from the bond areas but stay
in place in the clear gap areas. If you shine a strong light behind all
the join areas you will highlight all places needing attention. Scrape
off all surplus Redux which has squelched out and trowel this spare
redux into area's where there's gaps or shortage ensuring the width
areas are suitably abutted with one or two LOOSELY applied pop
rivets.(Rivets only partly extended)Wipe out areas of remaining surplus
and leave to cure. Bingo!
IMHO do not pull the flanges of the CM down where they are gapped
because:-
a) you stress everthing up
b) you make indentations on the outer fuselage surface needing filler
to fill them.
You will ultimately use less weight of Redux than the larger areas of
filler needed and for my money I'd rather ride on Redux than filler as a
structure !
Further don't mess with release agent or cling film you will not get a
good bond, I say again just fill all the gaps with trowelled Redux.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland &
Wilma Carson
Sent: 22 September 2008 21:40
Subject: Europa-List: cockpit module alignment
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Subject: | Adjusting the tailplanes |
Hi! Dan
I don't know who you were replying to? But if it was a response to my
message I didn't intend you to remove any material from the balance
weights but to thin the bump stops.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of danbish
Sent: 23 September 2008 01:09
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Adjusting the tailplanes
Ah, that makes sense. Except if too much weight is taken off to get them
in balance? Thanks for the help. Dan
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Hi! Danny
Just had a thought....did you pressure bleed the oil system to eliminate
any air pockets as per Rotax instructions?
Sounds like air expanding in the system has caused an "overfill
scenario"?
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of danny
shepherd
Sent: 22 September 2008 22:47
Subject: Re: Europa-List: oil problems
--> <danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk>
Steve,
We think it blew back out of the overflow pipe. I'll probably
take the a/c back home for further investigation.
Danny
steve v wrote:
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> Hi Danny,
> where did the oil leak/blow from?
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> steve #573
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> Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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Subject: | Re: Would like to buy an XS monowheel...............Am |
I mad or
After 500+ hours with a mono, I can only second what Bryan has said about it
being a beautiful aeroplane - but let's break the silence:
The monowheel has attracted some very unfair commentary. Yes, ideally, you
need some taildragger skill or a conversion course to fly it safely. Also,
if you've got heavy boots or slow reactions, you will have problems.
However, if you follow the factory advice of keeping the tail wheel hard
down until you gain enough airspeed for adequate rudder and aileron
response, then it behaves as well as any other taildragger - i.e. you simply
pay attention and be prepared to make minor, quick corrections on the ground
run.
While the Tri Gear has its own advantages, the Mono without doubt is
lighter, flies faster and is extremely rewarding to fly - don't let the
pundits put you off!
Roger Mills
Europa 141
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Subject: | Re: oil problems |
Bob,
Yes I did, but did I do it right!! When you think about it I have
run the engine for three hours myself with no problems. Thinking about
it last night in bed (as one does) I could only come up with idea that
there has to be a kink in the return from the engine to the tank. The
oil hoses are protected with fire sleeve, which makes it hard to see any
kinks. I'll bring the a/c back latter this week and change the hose.
Thanks for all the replies. Danny G-CERI
Robert C Harrison wrote:
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> Hi! Danny
> Just had a thought....did you pressure bleed the oil system to eliminate
> any air pockets as per Rotax instructions?
> Sounds like air expanding in the system has caused an "overfill
> scenario"?
> Regards
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG
>
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> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of danny
> shepherd
> Sent: 22 September 2008 22:47
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: oil problems
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> --> <danny@mcwalterscafe.co.uk>
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> Steve,
> We think it blew back out of the overflow pipe. I'll probably
> take the a/c back home for further investigation.
>
> Danny
>
> steve v wrote:
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>> Hi Danny,
>> where did the oil leak/blow from?
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Subject: | cockpit module alignment |
Rowland
I agree with all the comments so far but would just add that it is a good
idea to do a dry run first using whatever method you have decided on to hold
it all together, be it clecos, rivets, straps, etc. This will help you get
the best fit and give you a chance to check that there is no interference
with the controls,
Regards
Paul Atkinson
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland & Wilma
Carson
Sent: 22 September 2008 21:40
Subject: Europa-List: cockpit module alignment
I've managed to be ill in bed with a fever during the recent dry weather and
so missed a chance to do the spar bush alignemnt stuff outdoors, but I have
another problem that's bothering me.
I attach 6 fairly small pictures which I hope illustrate what I'm talking
about.
I have fitted the bearings for both ends of the CS05 torque tubes and was
pretty happy with the way it was all going until I put the cockpit module
into the lower fuselage moulding (see picture
DSCN2491.jpg) to do the check of stick movement as advised in the manual
(page 13-10). If I don't sit in the CM, all is fine and movement of the
sticks is constrained only by the cockpit sides and tunnel. However, when I
sit in it, the movement is considerably reduced; with only about 100mm
deflection left or right from centre at the top of the stick, there's a
graunching noise as the corners of
CS07/08 scrape against the fuselage floor.
You'll see in the picture that the outlines of the brown foam inserts in the
lower moulding don't seem to have any real relationship with the various
cutouts and shapes of the CM. I'd have thought that perhaps they would line
up in places. They are not even symmetrical port & starboard (the seats, on
my CM anyway, have slightly different shapes P & S).
I phoned up the factory when I found this and Roger assured me that all will
be well when the CM & lower moulding are bonded and thus stiffened. However,
as I look at things more closely, I am not much comforted by that.
The cockpit flange at the bottom of the seat backrest is supported by only
fresh air, in the middle of the green area across the middle of picture
DSCN2496.jpg, and any pressure on the seat pan will bend the CM down into
that depression. That causes CS07/08 to touch the fuselage floor where the
small black marks can be seen on the brown area at the rear of the green
stripe. I checked that the clearance for CS07/08 is correct (~6mm) as per
the manual (picture DSCN2501.jpg), but the depression in the green stripe is
about 4mm deep (picture DSCN2513.jpg) so if the CM is pushed down ito that
locally the clearance will be badly compromised.
Picture DSCN2515.jpg shows the width of the green depression, with a ruler
placed against the port CS07/08 witness mark. The depression lies from about
25mm to 100mm on the ruler. Picture DSCN2516.jpg shows the same ruler
positioned on the CM underside against CS07, demonstrating that the CM
flange across the seat-backs falls between the 25mm mark and the 100mm mark.
I think the engineering solution is to put packing between the CM and the
fuselage where there is no foam layer, so that the Redux will not need to
bridge the full 4mm gap. But what packing? It's got to be at least as strong
as the Redux. Maybe I should go the (expensive) route of putting in a layer
of Redux first with release film to fill the gap, as I did on the ribs when
closing the wings.
Has anyone else found this problem? Or is my CM/fuselage moulding a
mismatched pair?
All input appreciated!
regards
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: Would like to buy an XS monowheel...............Am |
I mad or
Also the monowheel is unique in what it offers with regards to strip
operation combined with economical, fast cruise and long range flight.
Once you limit yourself to the trigear there are a number of other
serious competitors out there.
Nigel Charles
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Mills
Sent: 23 September 2008 11:14
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Would like to buy an XS
monowheel...............Am I mad or
After 500+ hours with a mono, I can only second what Bryan has said
about it being a beautiful aeroplane - but let's break the silence:
The monowheel has attracted some very unfair commentary. Yes, ideally,
you need some taildragger skill or a conversion course to fly it safely.
Also, if you've got heavy boots or slow reactions, you will have
problems. However, if you follow the factory advice of keeping the tail
wheel hard down until you gain enough airspeed for adequate rudder and
aileron response, then it behaves as well as any other taildragger -
i.e. you simply pay attention and be prepared to make minor, quick
corrections on the ground run.
While the Tri Gear has its own advantages, the Mono without doubt is
lighter, flies faster and is extremely rewarding to fly - don't let
the pundits put you off!
Roger Mills
Europa 141
Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
9/22/2008 4:08 PM
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Subject: | Re: back in the Air ... (N81EU) |
On Sunday, Sep 21, 2008, at 13:45 US/Pacific, Thomas Scherer wrote:
> further to my eMail of Feb. 25th, 2007 I am glad to report that N81EU
> took to the Air again today
Thomas,
Congratulations...your photos are revealing, though I for one would be
most interested in some narrative background on your rebuild....e.g.,
how your fuselage was repaired, how much was salvaged, how everything
got trued up...
Fred
A194
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Subject: | Re: Would like to buy an XS monowheel...............Am |
I mad or
Bob,
I do not regard the distinctions between handling characteristics of mono vs
trigear as being significant. The mono is more pleasing to the eye etc. I
modified my mono to tri for two reasons: with the mono
1. I was unable to retract gear with the rright hand, I also cannot fly other
manually retractables, and
2. The high desert strip from which I fly is 30 feet wide and I could not turn
the mono around without stopping, and doing it by hand from the ground.
The europa is the most enjoyable plane to fly that I have experienced.
These experiences began with the stearman in 1945. After a half century lay
off I retired and took up flying again.
Off strip attributes are not applicable in the high, 6500 ft,desert.
jp
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Subject: | Re: back in the Air ... (N81EU) |
Hey Thomas! Glad to see her back in the air.... Rather like a phoenix rising
from ashes. Keep in touch!
kp
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Subject: | cockpit module alignment |
At 2008-09-23 09:03 +1200 Tony Krzyzewski wrote:
>Rowland, I don't think that you have a problem. There is a lot of
>flexibility in the bottom molding until the cockpit module is bonded in.
>I did a similar "pre flight" test sitting in the cockpit module before
>it had been bonded in and had exactly the same result. Once the module
>is bonded everything stiffens up quite considerably and you'll find that
>the clearance that you currently have without the weight of your body on
>it will be maintained.
Tony - that sounds good theory, but how in practice do I ensure that
everything stays where it ought to while doing the cockpit module
bonding?
I haven't yet done all the drilling and cleco-ing that is called out
in the manual page 11-6 (trial fit of CM) to fit the CM as closely to
the lower fuselage moulding as possible, and fear that I could easily
make things worse instead of better during that process. It says
"drill and cleco other areas until your cockpit module is a snug fit"
but I can't see how you get a snug fit of the relatively flat CM
surfaces against the fuselage moulding which goes up and down at
every edge of the brown foam inserts.
The manual also says "Use as few clecos as is necessary to fit the
module to the bottom moulding. Remember that when you come to bond
the module into the fuselage bottom moulding you will be able to
locally weight down any small areas that need it". If I were to weigh
down the aft end of either seat-centre tunnel, that would ruin the
CS07/08 clearance.
Why doesn't the area of the CM around the CS06 rear bearing actually
rest on the fuselage floor? It seems crazy to take care setting up
the clearance for parts at the aft end of the torque tube, and then
leave it dangling in fresh air.
regards
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: Would like to buy an XS monowheel...............Am |
I mad or
Hi all,
I am always intrigued by this perennial debate and I rarely
participate, however Nigel's comments made me think about the question
in a different context.
When I purchased my kit, (way back when) I was living in Australia at
the time and the Europa Mono wheel had a couple of important
attributes I needed, it would work off unimproved fields, and it
fitted on a pretty neat trailer fairly quickly so I could keep it at
home. When Ivan and friends designed this aircraft that is what its
mission statement was.
I remember thinking at the time, "well it looks a lot like some
gliders I have flown so it can't be all that hard to land". Well I
suppose with experience I know that assumption is wrong.
How hard is it?. I am having an interesting experience of teaching my
daughter to handle the aircraft in the landing ground roll out phase
and it made be realize that this is just an airplane that "keeps you
honest".
It is not until you teach and watch someone else that it becomes
apparent that the airplane demands accuracy from the down wind phase
until you have stopped. Nail the speeds and aim point and it all
falls into place, and the airplane has such nice aerodynamic qualities
that it isn't difficult to do any of this, it is just that it if you
don't pay attention to the basics then you start to fall behind.
The other interesting point Nigel makes is, once you move into the
Trigear category, then there are a lot of contenders to choose from,
and the differentiating attributes of a Europa become significantly
smaller. This is what makes the Europa mono wheel some what unique, it
meets its design criteria very well without many competing designs.
So which airplane is best, in my opinion, it comes down to your
mission statement.
Paul N378PJ
860 hours and still grinning every time I fly it.
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Subject: | Re: Adjusting the tailplanes |
Just confirming that I got things set right. Thanks for the input.
Dan
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Subject: | cockpit module alignment |
At 2008-09-23 09:27 +0100 Robert C Harrison wrote:
>seems to me that you are expecting the
>structure to take your weight before bonding
Bob - thanks for your message. I can see now that I was associating
the 2 different instructions on page 13-10 in an inappropriate way.
Near the top of the page it says "orientate the column such that the
tube cranks aft and slightly inboard so that there is equal space
between it and each of your thighs" and obviously you have to sit in
it to check that positioning.
But near the bottom of the page it says "check that the minimum
control movement that can be achieved without interference, is 22.5
cm (9") fore and aft and 28 cm (11") laterally" but it does NOT say
you should be sitting in it for that check; I had just mentally
connected the two!
>Assuming the control stick movements are not stiff prior to bonding the
>CM in place
No problem there - without the sticks fitted the weight of just the
aileron cross-link pushrod is enough to make it all fall to neutral
with the CM upside-down. I used good-quality furniture wax
(non-silicone) instead of grease on the Tufnol parts and that seems
to have worked well. I also included plastic shims when assembling
CS02/03/04 - see my website journal at
<http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/200808.html> for the whole
story. Note later also the method of inserting thin wires to keep
CS05 & CS02/3 co-axial and thus avoid any binding between the front
and rear bearings.
>a dummy run of module inserted and fuselage very adquately
>supported so that the sides are the correct width (without stress)
This seems a good idea, but how is that correct width determined? I
can't immediately see any reference for that dimension.
>Further don't mess with release agent or cling film you will not get a
>good bond
I found that when I did this on the wings, the hardest part was
getting the gap-filling cured Redux abraded again enough to key
properly with the final coat. But in the wings it was more desirable
to do it that way, as it's not possible to see where there is excess
or insufficient Redux at final bond time. For the CM bonding, most of
the areas are visible during the whole process or can be made so by a
strong light.
regards
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: cockpit module alignment |
At 2008-09-22 20:39 -0700 Fred Klein wrote:
>One consideration may be your method of supporting the canoe
Fred - thanks for your comments. I am (at present) using an old door
on castors with wedges at the ends for support - see the pictures on
my website at
<http://home.clara.net/rowil/aviation/fuselage_dolly.html>. The
fuselage floor is relatively flat where the seat-backs are, and it is
in contact with the door almost all the way across at that fuselage
station. This matches the pretty flat profile across the width of the
cockpit module underside.
>I built one of Chuck Popenoe's knock down support frames
I did consider something similar but laziness won! It would be great
if someone made a file of fuselage profile measurements for cutting
support formers.
>don't hesitate to lay the Redux on thick when the time comes to bond
>in the CM and take care as to not localize pressure with blocking
>and strapping
That all sounds good advice, thanks.
regards
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: cockpit module alignment |
At 2008-09-23 04:08 +0000 <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> wrote:
>I didn't like my clearance between CS07/08 and
>fuse, so after checking with Nev, cut a bit more off the bottom and
>rounded more the edges
Ron - thanks for the message.
>I had to grind a lot to get even a close fit on the front where
>the CPM attaches to the firewall so would have not to fill a canyon
I couldn't take much off there without getting into the glass, but
the gap left does not seem large in the general scale of things. It
doesn't look like the 4mm or so that exists between the CM seat-back
flange and the fuselage floor.
>I ran
>like you said a first pass with redux/flox on a few areas that required a
>large fill
I may not do that, as the main reason for doing it on the wings was
that you can't see how it's gone after the final bond has been made,
and on the CM there is much better visibility.
>In same picture good
>idea to put on a 1 ply strip of uni so you can later install tie rod!
Thanks for that tip.
Reply copied to list as Ron's reply came only to me.
regards
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: cockpit module alignment |
At 2008-09-23 16:21 +1000 Kingsley Hurst wrote:
>I had the same problem with the bottom corners of the CS08s contacting the
>fuselage floor. My solution for this was to locally remove the inner glass
>plies and then to sand out the foam
Kingsley - thanks for your message. I thought about that , but I
think I'd need clearance from an inspector to proceed with that.
>I also filed away any excess material on the bottom corners of the CS08s
I'd only get about 1mm or less by doing that - they're pretty close
to the screw heads already, although any extra clearance would be
welcome.
>from memory, all of the cockpit module parts to
>be bonded should mate with glass only sections in the fuselage. It
>his is not the case, would
>removing some extra material from the module allow this?
All the CM flanges around the seat area (and the ply thigh-support
ribs) mate with brown foam areas on the lower fuselage moulding - it
covers all the central bottom area of the lower moulding (see the
pictures attached to the first posting). The only CM bottom flanges
NOT resting on foam are the outboard and rear edges of the seat pan,
although the one at the port side is wide enough to catch the foam at
its inboard edge.
>Is this because some parts of the module are resting on foam sandwiched
>areas of the fuselage as mentioned in my last comment
Yes - see above.
>if the module is lowered such that the
>cockpit flange at the bottom of the seat backrest contacts the glass only
>area, the interference with the bottom of the CS08s will be worse
Yes. But the module doesn't lower into that position naturally; only
if pressure is applied at the back of the seat pan does the CM
distort to allow that flange to contact the plain glass area of the
fuselage floor.
>Hope I have made SOME sense Rowland
Yes, I think we are on the same wavelength, but I'm still a bit puzzled.
regards
Rowland
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Subject: | cockpit module alignment |
At 2008-09-23 12:14 +0100 Paul Atkinson wrote:
>it is a good
>idea to do a dry run first
Paul - thanks, yes, I am a great believer in the dry run, even down
to "where will I put the pot of Redux so I don't knock it over with
my elbow when trying to persuade the already-applied Redux to go
where I want it?"
regards
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: Would like to buy an XS monowheel...............Am |
I mad or
Roger and all,
The mono is a purebred.
Karel Vranken, F-PKRL only 200 hours.
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Mills
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Would like to buy an XS
monowheel...............Am I mad or
After 500+ hours with a mono, I can only second what Bryan has said
about it being a beautiful aeroplane - but let's break the silence:
The monowheel has attracted some very unfair commentary. Yes,
ideally, you need some taildragger skill or a conversion course to fly
it safely. Also, if you've got heavy boots or slow reactions, you will
have problems. However, if you follow the factory advice of keeping the
tail wheel hard down until you gain enough airspeed for adequate rudder
and aileron response, then it behaves as well as any other taildragger -
i.e. you simply pay attention and be prepared to make minor, quick
corrections on the ground run.
While the Tri Gear has its own advantages, the Mono without doubt is
lighter, flies faster and is extremely rewarding to fly - don't let
the pundits put you off!
Roger Mills
Europa 141
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Subject: | Re: Would like to buy an XS monowheel...............Am |
I mad or
Why has every aircraft manufacturer in every country in the world,
commercial, military, General, light sport, ultra-lights, rejected the
monowheel design?
Garry
----- Original Message -----
From: karelvranken
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Would like to buy an XS
monowheel...............Am I mad or
Roger and all,
The mono is a purebred.
Karel Vranken, F-PKRL only 200 hours.
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Mills
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Would like to buy an XS
monowheel...............Am I mad or
After 500+ hours with a mono, I can only second what Bryan has said
about it being a beautiful aeroplane - but let's break the silence:
The monowheel has attracted some very unfair commentary. Yes,
ideally, you need some taildragger skill or a conversion course to fly
it safely. Also, if you've got heavy boots or slow reactions, you will
have problems. However, if you follow the factory advice of keeping the
tail wheel hard down until you gain enough airspeed for adequate rudder
and aileron response, then it behaves as well as any other taildragger -
i.e. you simply pay attention and be prepared to make minor, quick
corrections on the ground run.
While the Tri Gear has its own advantages, the Mono without doubt is
lighter, flies faster and is extremely rewarding to fly - don't let
the pundits put you off!
Roger Mills
Europa 141
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Subject: | Re: oil problems |
I once had a similar experience when I accidentally overfilled the oil tank. Unaware
at the time that the oil in the tank will siphon into the engine if it
sits for extended periods of inactivity, I checked the oil prior to leaving for
the airfield and noted that it was quite a bit low. I added a quart or so to
bring the level up and headed for the airport. Unfortunately, I didn't get
very far. Shortly after takeoff I started to smell oil. I immediately came around
for a landing without incident. However, upon examining the plane I discovered
that a significant amount of oil had been forced out of the overflow tube.
It was then I realized what I had done. Never check the oil level without
first pulling a few blades through and confirming the burping of the oil tank.
Lesson learned.
Regards,
Erich
N28ET Classic Mono 914
"Hi All,
Last Saturday my test pilot started the ground testing. He
carried out the taxi checks, bedded in the brakes, did a fast taxi down
the runway, all the t's and p's perfect. Oil pressure 4 bar, The engine
ran quite cool, (no signs of over heating) All together he ran the
engine for about 45 minutes. When he taxied back to the hangar the
engine dumped most of the oil on the tarmac. Rather worrying!! We took
off the cowls and every thing looked o k. The pipes are correct (the
right orientation) and there are no kinks in them. So far the engine has
run for nearly four hours with no problem. Has anyone else had similar
problems? does anyone have any suggestions ?. It was going to have it's
maiden flight next Saturday, but !!!!!!!!!!
Cheers Danny (worried)"
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Subject: | Re: Would like to buy an XS monowheel...............Am |
I mad or
Garry,
Not completely. The U-2/TR-1 series of aircraft are of the "bicycle"
configuration.
Check six,
Bob Borger
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On Sep 23, 2008, at 18:03, Garry wrote:
> Why has every aircraft manufacturer in every country in the world,
> commercial, military, General, light sport, ultra-lights, rejected
> the monowheel design?
>
> Garry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: karelvranken
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Would like to buy an XS
> monowheel...............Am I mad or
>
> Roger and all,
> The mono is a purebred.
> Karel Vranken, F-PKRL only 200 hours.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Roger Mills
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 12:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Would like to buy an XS
> monowheel...............Am I mad or
>
> After 500+ hours with a mono, I can only second what Bryan has said
> about it being a beautiful aeroplane - but let=92s break the silence:
>
> The monowheel has attracted some very unfair commentary. Yes,
> ideally, you need some taildragger skill or a conversion course to
> fly it safely. Also, if you=92ve got heavy boots or slow reactions,
> you will have problems. However, if you follow the factory advice of
> keeping the tail wheel hard down until you gain enough airspeed for
> adequate rudder and aileron response, then it behaves as well as any
> other taildragger ' i.e. you simply pay attention and be prepared to
> make minor, quick corrections on the ground run.
>
> While the Tri Gear has its own advantages, the Mono without doubt is
> lighter, flies faster and is extremely rewarding to fly ' don=92t
> let the pundits put you off!
>
> Roger Mills
> Europa 141
>
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Subject: | Re: Would like to buy an XS monowheel...............Am |
I mad or
> Why has every aircraft manufacturer in every country in the world,
commercial, military, General, light sport, ultra-lights, rejected the
monowheel design?
Really! Just to name a few, what about Glassflugel, ASW, Schempp Hirth,
Alexander Schleicher, DG Flugzeugbau, SZD, LET not to mention Europa !
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Subject: | Re: cockpit module alignment |
Rowland,
> All the CM flanges around the seat area (and the ply thigh-support ribs)
> mate with brown foam areas on the lower fuselage moulding - it covers all
> the central bottom area of the lower moulding (see the pictures attached
> to the first posting). The only CM bottom flanges NOT resting on foam are
> the outboard and rear edges of the seat pan, although the one at the port
> side is wide enough to catch the foam at its inboard edge.
Because I have little trust in my memory anymore, I pulled my fuse out of
the trailer this morning to check. Parts of my module DO mate with the
foamed areas of the fuselage but where they do, the module is rebated to
accomodate this. Does your module not have any rebated sections? There is
a slight joggle where the rebated sections start but they are not very
prominent..
>>My solution for this was to locally remove the inner glass
>>plies and then to sand out the foam
>Kingsley - thanks for your message. I thought about that , but I think I'd
>need clearance from an inspector to proceed with that.
It must be a pain not being able to make a small change like this without
jumping through hoops etc. It was once like the UK over here too but thank
goodness, we have the Experimental Regulations here now.
Maybe you can raise the rear bushes a little. . . . I too had the rear
bushes installed as per the book but as I said previously, they turned out
not to be quite high enough.
I hope you can get on top of your hitch at the moment Rowland. There is
always a reason and a cure but properly identifying the problems can often
not be the easiest thing to do.
All the best
Kingsley
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