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     1. 01:21 AM - Re: Jab3300 Cowlings (Robert C Harrison)
     2. 10:56 AM - Re: Jab3300 Cowlings (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
     3. 11:44 AM - Re: Jab3300 Cowlings (Robert C Harrison)
     4. 11:52 AM - Re: Jab3300 Cowlings (DuaneFamly@aol.com)
     5. 12:50 PM - Re: Monowheel carrier landings (europaman)
     6. 01:17 PM - Re: Jab3300 Cowlings (Graham Singleton)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Jab3300 Cowlings | 
      
      
      Hi! Mike
      The clips are over centre clips with a hook on the top cowl and a bar on
      the lower cowl . Then when engaged a small "R" spring clip makes a
      positive secure. If you have the Jabiru Cowl there should be recesses in
      both sides of the top ane bottom cowl. I can't sent specific pics
      because I've sold my cowls.
      However there's a picture on the web at :- http://www.crix.org.uk 
      Click on Bob Harrison's Europa G-PTAG 
      Go to :- Cooling Mods 
      Select :- Port View.
      ALSO look at "Cowling View No. 3 " to see the sockets for the rear cowl
      tapered pins.
      Unfortunately I still can't find the front clips since they are just
      behind the spinner. 
      Regards
      Bob H G-PTAG
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Duane
      Sent: 26 September 2008 04:35
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jab3300 Cowlings
      
      
      If I received these clips with the FWF kit I'll have to give a good look
      around because I don't remember seeing them. If you have a few pix of
      these clips, it might jog my memory.
      Thanks.
      
      Mike
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jab3300 Cowlings | 
      
      Bob,
      
      Thanks so much.....a few pix are worth several thousand words. So the top  
      cowl is set on top and slide back to mate with the tapered pins mounted on the
      
      firewall and the cam locks up front secure it in place. Do you know if there 
      are  more than the one cam locks on each side? I do have a Jab cowl but I must
      
      have  gotten a set before they added the recesses.  
      
      Mike Duane  A207A
      Redding, California
      XS Conventional Gear
      Jabiru 3300  
      Sensenich R64Z N
      Ground Adjustable Prop
      
      
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| Subject:  | Jab3300 Cowlings | 
      
      Hi! Mike.
      Yes I explained that even with the clips you now see, the PFA require
      another inverted =93L=94 shaped clip pop riveting to the lower cowl 
      either
      side of the spinner so that the =93foot=94 of the inverted =93L=94 
      engages with
      a suitable slot in the upper cowl by depressing the upper cowl to get it
      behind the foot of the =93L=94.
      I=92ve re-read this description a number of times and can=92t think of a 
      way
      to improve it. If you can=92t understand I=92ll have to do a sketch and 
      scan
      it and attach it. Let me know.
      Otherwise there is only one of the over centre clips on each side. You
      will need to shorten the tapered pins in the firewall and round them to
      be only about =BC=94 of taper and a small amount of parallel diameter .
      Regards
      Bob Harrison G-PTAG
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      DuaneFamly@aol.com
      Sent: 28 September 2008 18:51
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jab3300 Cowlings
      
      Bob,
      
      Thanks so much.....a few pix are worth several thousand words. So the
      top cowl is set on top and slide back to mate with the tapered pins
      mounted on the firewall and the cam locks up front secure it in place.
      Do you know if there are more than the one cam locks on each side? I do
      have a Jab cowl but I must have gotten a set before they added the
      recesses. 
      
      Mike Duane A207A
      Redding, California
      XS Conventional Gear
      Jabiru 3300 
      Sensenich R64Z N
      Ground Adjustable Prop
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jab3300 Cowlings | 
      
      Thanks Bob,
      
      I finally get what you are talking about. No sketch needed, but thanks for  
      the offer. I went to your website and checked out a few of your pix. They to
      ld  
      all that I need.
      
      I really appreciate the help.
      
      Mike
      
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      In a message dated 9/28/2008 11:45:17 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
      ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk writes:
      
      
      Hi!  Mike. 
      Yes I explained that  even with the clips you now see, the PFA require 
      another inverted  =9CL=9D shaped clip pop riveting to the lower 
      cowl either side of  
      the spinner so that the =9Cfoot=9D of the inverted =9CL
      =9D engages with a suitable  
      slot in the upper cowl by depressing the upper cowl to get it behind the foo
      t  
      of the =9CL=9D. 
      I=99ve re-read this  description a number of times and can=99t t
      hink of a way to 
      improve it. If you  can=99t understand I=99ll have to do a sketc
      h and scan it 
      and attach it. Let me  know. 
      Otherwise there is  only one of the over centre clips on each side. You will
      
      need to shorten the  tapered pins in the firewall and round them to be only 
      about =C2=BC=9D of taper and a  small amount of parallel diameter  . 
      Regards 
      Bob Harrison  G-PTAG 
      -----Original  Message-----
      From:  owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com  
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of  DuaneFamly@aol
      .com
      Sent: 28 September 2008 18:51
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jab3300  Cowlings 
      
      Bob,
      
      
      Thanks  so much.....a few pix are worth several thousand words. So the top 
      cowl is set  on top and slide back to mate with the tapered pins mounted on 
      the 
      firewall  and the cam locks up front secure it in place. Do you know if ther
      e 
      are more  than the one cam locks on each side? I do have a Jab cowl but I mu
      st 
      have  gotten a set before they added the recesses.  
      
      
      Mike Duane  A207A
      Redding, California
      XS Conventional Gear
      Jabiru 3300  
      Sensenich R64Z N
      Ground Adjustable  Prop
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Monowheel carrier landings | 
      
      
      Many of those were touch and go's. His hook wasn't down. That brought back of lot
      of memories of my Navy days. That was the USS Ranger, CV61, that I was on from
      1973 to 1976. Never saw a U2 in the pattern though. It is decommisioned in
      Bremerton, WA now. 
      Troy
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Jab3300 Cowlings | 
      
      
      Robert C Harrison wrote:
      >
      > Hi! Mike.
      >
      > Yes I explained that even with the clips you now see, the PFA require 
      > another *_inverted L_* shaped clip pop riveting to the lower cowl 
      > either side of the spinner so that the foot of the inverted L 
      > engages with a suitable slot in the upper cowl by depressing the upper 
      > cowl to get it behind the foot of the L.
      >
      > Ive re-read this description a number of times and cant think of a 
      > way to improve it.
      >
      >
      Bob & All
      You need to remember that the pressure inside the cowl is quite high, 
      ;-) a few inches of water pressure equivalent to 60/80 kts airspeed, 
      (guess of internal cowl pressure). Multiply 1/2 PSI by the area of the 
      cowl and it adds up to a serious amount of load. 500 lbs? I think PFA 
      are right.
      Graham
      
      
 
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