---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 09/28/08: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:21 AM - Re: Jab3300 Cowlings (Robert C Harrison) 2. 10:56 AM - Re: Jab3300 Cowlings (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 3. 11:44 AM - Re: Jab3300 Cowlings (Robert C Harrison) 4. 11:52 AM - Re: Jab3300 Cowlings (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 5. 12:50 PM - Re: Monowheel carrier landings (europaman) 6. 01:17 PM - Re: Jab3300 Cowlings (Graham Singleton) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:37 AM PST US From: "Robert C Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Jab3300 Cowlings Hi! Mike The clips are over centre clips with a hook on the top cowl and a bar on the lower cowl . Then when engaged a small "R" spring clip makes a positive secure. If you have the Jabiru Cowl there should be recesses in both sides of the top ane bottom cowl. I can't sent specific pics because I've sold my cowls. However there's a picture on the web at :- http://www.crix.org.uk Click on Bob Harrison's Europa G-PTAG Go to :- Cooling Mods Select :- Port View. ALSO look at "Cowling View No. 3 " to see the sockets for the rear cowl tapered pins. Unfortunately I still can't find the front clips since they are just behind the spinner. Regards Bob H G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Duane Sent: 26 September 2008 04:35 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jab3300 Cowlings If I received these clips with the FWF kit I'll have to give a good look around because I don't remember seeing them. If you have a few pix of these clips, it might jog my memory. Thanks. Mike Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:56:18 AM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jab3300 Cowlings Bob, Thanks so much.....a few pix are worth several thousand words. So the top cowl is set on top and slide back to mate with the tapered pins mounted on the firewall and the cam locks up front secure it in place. Do you know if there are more than the one cam locks on each side? I do have a Jab cowl but I must have gotten a set before they added the recesses. Mike Duane A207A Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Jabiru 3300 Sensenich R64Z N Ground Adjustable Prop **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:44:12 AM PST US From: "Robert C Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Jab3300 Cowlings Hi! Mike. Yes I explained that even with the clips you now see, the PFA require another inverted =93L=94 shaped clip pop riveting to the lower cowl either side of the spinner so that the =93foot=94 of the inverted =93L=94 engages with a suitable slot in the upper cowl by depressing the upper cowl to get it behind the foot of the =93L=94. I=92ve re-read this description a number of times and can=92t think of a way to improve it. If you can=92t understand I=92ll have to do a sketch and scan it and attach it. Let me know. Otherwise there is only one of the over centre clips on each side. You will need to shorten the tapered pins in the firewall and round them to be only about =BC=94 of taper and a small amount of parallel diameter . Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DuaneFamly@aol.com Sent: 28 September 2008 18:51 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jab3300 Cowlings Bob, Thanks so much.....a few pix are worth several thousand words. So the top cowl is set on top and slide back to mate with the tapered pins mounted on the firewall and the cam locks up front secure it in place. Do you know if there are more than the one cam locks on each side? I do have a Jab cowl but I must have gotten a set before they added the recesses. Mike Duane A207A Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Jabiru 3300 Sensenich R64Z N Ground Adjustable Prop _____ Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check =http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001> out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:52:06 AM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jab3300 Cowlings Thanks Bob, I finally get what you are talking about. No sketch needed, but thanks for the offer. I went to your website and checked out a few of your pix. They to ld all that I need. I really appreciate the help. Mike Do Not Archive In a message dated 9/28/2008 11:45:17 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk writes: Hi! Mike. Yes I explained that even with the clips you now see, the PFA require another inverted =9CL=9D shaped clip pop riveting to the lower cowl either side of the spinner so that the =9Cfoot=9D of the inverted =9CL =9D engages with a suitable slot in the upper cowl by depressing the upper cowl to get it behind the foo t of the =9CL=9D. I=99ve re-read this description a number of times and can=99t t hink of a way to improve it. If you can=99t understand I=99ll have to do a sketc h and scan it and attach it. Let me know. Otherwise there is only one of the over centre clips on each side. You will need to shorten the tapered pins in the firewall and round them to be only about =C2=BC=9D of taper and a small amount of parallel diameter . Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DuaneFamly@aol .com Sent: 28 September 2008 18:51 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jab3300 Cowlings Bob, Thanks so much.....a few pix are worth several thousand words. So the top cowl is set on top and slide back to mate with the tapered pins mounted on the firewall and the cam locks up front secure it in place. Do you know if ther e are more than the one cam locks on each side? I do have a Jab cowl but I mu st have gotten a set before they added the recesses. Mike Duane A207A Redding, California XS Conventional Gear Jabiru 3300 Sensenich R64Z N Ground Adjustable Prop ____________________________________ Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronhre f="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c (http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List) (http://www.matronics.com/contribution) **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips a nd calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:50:28 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel carrier landings From: "europaman" Many of those were touch and go's. His hook wasn't down. That brought back of lot of memories of my Navy days. That was the USS Ranger, CV61, that I was on from 1973 to 1976. Never saw a U2 in the pattern though. It is decommisioned in Bremerton, WA now. Troy Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:15 PM PST US From: Graham Singleton Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jab3300 Cowlings Robert C Harrison wrote: > > Hi! Mike. > > Yes I explained that even with the clips you now see, the PFA require > another *_inverted L_* shaped clip pop riveting to the lower cowl > either side of the spinner so that the foot of the inverted L > engages with a suitable slot in the upper cowl by depressing the upper > cowl to get it behind the foot of the L. > > Ive re-read this description a number of times and cant think of a > way to improve it. > > Bob & All You need to remember that the pressure inside the cowl is quite high, ;-) a few inches of water pressure equivalent to 60/80 kts airspeed, (guess of internal cowl pressure). Multiply 1/2 PSI by the area of the cowl and it adds up to a serious amount of load. 500 lbs? I think PFA are right. 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