---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 10/26/08: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:55 AM - DOTH Tue 28th Shobdon (Paddy Clarke) 2. 02:11 AM - Aircraft jack for Bob Borger (David Corbett) 3. 07:52 AM - Re: Exhaust pipe (Jeff B) 4. 10:07 AM - Re: DOTH Tue 28th Shobdon (Trevpond@aol.com) 5. 11:25 AM - Re : Aircraft jack for Bob Borger (NEEL Jean Philippe) 6. 11:42 AM - Exhaust pipe (Remi Guerner) 7. 12:06 PM - DOTH Tue 28th Shobdon (Ray) 8. 02:46 PM - Re: DOTH Tue 28th Shobdon (Richard Iddon) 9. 03:57 PM - fuel pump etc (Rowland & Wilma Carson) 10. 05:33 PM - Re: fuel pump etc (DuaneFamly@aol.com) 11. 07:33 PM - First Flight ZK-EPA (Gavin & Anne) 12. 08:04 PM - Re: First Flight ZK-EPA (Europa List) 13. 08:28 PM - Re: First Flight ZK-EPA (Gavin & Anne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:55:53 AM PST US From: Paddy Clarke Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Tue 28th Shobdon Hi Folks, The only day I can do this week is Tuesday. The weather looks workable, especially earlier rather than later, so how about a DOTH to Shobdon. Voucher in Pilot - 1200ish. All the Best, Paddy Paddy Clarke Europa G-KIMM ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:11:43 AM PST US From: "David Corbett" Subject: Europa-List: Aircraft jack for Bob Borger Hello, Bob, Here are 2 pics of my jack, developed from a French Europa owner's wooden design shown in a very early Europa Flyer, the Europa Club magazine. David G-BZAM 530 hours ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:52:11 AM PST US From: Jeff B Subject: Re: Europa-List: Exhaust pipe Willie and all, What I surmise is that the alignment of the muffler is the culprit. Since the #s 1 & 3 are catty-cornered from each other and neither has an adjustable link, one tends to stand off the muffler if the #1 pipe is not perfectly adjusted. This situation is what caused the exhaust leak on Baby Blue, which ultimately overheated the ignition coils and caused the rough running incident I encountered. What I see happening is this: The ball end of the pipe is not fully seated into the muffler, allowing the pipe to vibrate and setting up a resonation which ultimately leads to the cracks. I may be totally off base, here, but it makes sense to me... Jeff - Baby Blue William Harrison wrote: > > > Same on mine (front left) at approx 100 hrs. > > Can anyone shed light on another exhaust problem - an allegedly bad > batch of springs (too long, so silencer is not held on securely enough)? > > Willie > > > On 24 Oct 2008, at 17:35, Steven Pitt wrote: > >> Remi, >> The front port pipe on my 912S engine had the pipe and bell fitting >> (the flange that is bolted onto the engine) come apart at the weld >> (see picture as this explains better than my words). I realised I had >> a problem when taking off and I heard a noise that I had not heard >> before. The pipe was able to rattle in the flange fitting but did not >> fall off and was only observed once the engine cooled and I was able >> to grab the pipes and shake them. >> I did not loose power but aborted the take off due to the change in >> noise. >> The engine has done 120 hours. >> Hope this helps. >> Regards >> Steve Pitt >> G-SMDH >> DSCN1604 >> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:07:01 AM PST US From: Trevpond@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: DOTH Tue 28th Shobdon I'm in Paddy. Trev Pond G-LINN ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:25:45 AM PST US From: NEEL Jean Philippe Subject: Re : Europa-List: Aircraft jack for Bob Borger Bonjour David=0AThank you for giving reference to a manual drawing I sent t o the=C2-Europa Flyer in 1998or 1999.=C2-My wooden jack is always worki ng. I think it is the only=C2-device using a simple=C2-car jack, that i s able to lift and=C2-to bring up=C2-the landing gear of =C2-an europ a completly=C2-rigged with wings =C2-or derriged without wings.=0AJean- Philippe Neel=0AF- PSLH 1000 hours reached yesterday october 25=C2-=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0ADe : David Corbett =0A=C3 : Europa Forum =0AE nvoy=C3=A9 le : Dimanche, 26 Octobre 2008, 10h09mn 04s=0AObjet=C2-: Europ a-List: Aircraft jack for Bob Borger=0A=0A=C2- =C2- =0AHello, Bob,=0A =0AHere are 2 pics of my jack, developed from a French Europa owner's woode n=0Adesign shown in a very early Europa Flyer, the Europa Club magazine.=0A =0ADavid=0AG-BZAM 530 hours=0A=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:42:50 AM PST US From: "Remi Guerner" Subject: Europa-List: Exhaust pipe Thank you Steve, Apparently the cause is a defective weld. Best regards Remi ""The front port pipe on my 912S engine had the pipe and bell fitting (the flange that is bolted onto the engine) come apart at the weld (see picture"" ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:37 PM PST US From: "Ray" Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Tue 28th Shobdon Count me in - subject to "The weather looks workable, especially earlier rather than later". Excellent wording Paddy. Ray Rotax 912S -- Ray raymondwren@fastmail.co.uk ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:46:42 PM PST US From: "Richard Iddon" Subject: RE: Europa-List: DOTH Tue 28th Shobdon Hope to make it Paddy, subject to weather and getting my pass stamped. Richard Iddon G-RIXS -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paddy Clarke Sent: 26 October 2008 08:55 Subject: Europa-List: DOTH Tue 28th Shobdon Hi Folks, The only day I can do this week is Tuesday. The weather looks workable, especially earlier rather than later, so how about a DOTH to Shobdon. Voucher in Pilot - 1200ish. All the Best, Paddy Paddy Clarke Europa G-KIMM Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com 10/25/2008 5:55 PM ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:57:24 PM PST US From: Rowland & Wilma Carson Subject: Europa-List: fuel pump etc I'm intending to fit aluminium pipe (and braided nitrile) instead of the smelly rubber stuff and am trying to plan the pipe runs from the fuel selector area back to the fuel pump. It seems wise to put the aluminium pipes in before I stick down the cockpit module, although the manual leaves it to much later for the rubber pipes. The picture on page 6-4 of the 912 FWF manual seems to show that the pipe from the selector goes back near the fuselage floor (or perhaps higher up at the port side of the tunnel), and that the pipe coming forward from the pump runs near the top of the tunnel through the tank. I guess this is all in line with the philosophy of a gradually-rising pipe from tank to engine - but obviously it can't quite adhere to that throughout. I don't want to clip a pipe in a position where it will get in the way of stuff to be installed later such as the flap actuation mechanism. I plan to install an Andair gascolator, and the obvious place where there is some room for that is alongside the pump. Does anyone have any advice or comments about: (a) the routing of aluminium pipes from the selector area to the pump; (b) the location of an Andair 375 gascolator. Are there any pictures online of the SS502 / 40106 pump (apparently a Facet item) or an Andair 375 gascolator installation for a 912s? regards Rowland -- | Wilma & Rowland Carson http://home.clara.net/rowil/ | ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:33:37 PM PST US From: DuaneFamly@aol.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: fuel pump etc This is what I did..... **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ooter) ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:33:09 PM PST US From: "Gavin & Anne" Subject: Europa-List: First Flight ZK-EPA The 9th New Zealand based Europa to fly After 11......and a bit years Europa #355 took to the air from Tauranga NZ on the 24th of October for a 40 minute first flight. She flew well, basic stall at 48kts wings level, 38kts with flap gear and power and an accompanying left wing drop, envelope to be explored Temps and pressures all good Well worth the effort and a special thanks to all those that assisted with advice and help Gavin Lee Europa XS.....#355.....ZK-EPA 912S with Airmaster prop ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:44 PM PST US From: "Europa List" Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight ZK-EPA Congratulations! I have yet to experience your joy. May I ask, are those warp drive blades on your prop. Vaughn Teegarden A191 Still plugging away ----- Original Message ----- From: Gavin & Anne To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:26 PM Subject: Europa-List: First Flight ZK-EPA The 9th New Zealand based Europa to fly After 11......and a bit years Europa #355 took to the air from Tauranga NZ on the 24th of October for a 40 minute first flight. She flew well, basic stall at 48kts wings level, 38kts with flap gear and power and an accompanying left wing drop, envelope to be explored Temps and pressures all good Well worth the effort and a special thanks to all those that assisted with advice and help Gavin Lee Europa XS.....#355.....ZK-EPA 912S with Airmaster prop ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:28:46 PM PST US From: "Gavin & Anne" Subject: RE: Europa-List: First Flight ZK-EPA Yes they are...64inch diameter _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Europa List Sent: Monday, 27 October 2008 4:04 p.m. Subject: Re: Europa-List: First Flight ZK-EPA Congratulations! I have yet to experience your joy. May I ask, are those warp drive blades on your prop. Vaughn Teegarden A191 Still plugging away ----- Original Message ----- From: Gavin & Anne Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008 10:26 PM Subject: Europa-List: First Flight ZK-EPA The 9th New Zealand based Europa to fly After 11......and a bit years Europa #355 took to the air from Tauranga NZ on the 24th of October for a 40 minute first flight. She flew well, basic stall at 48kts wings level, 38kts with flap gear and power and an accompanying left wing drop, envelope to be explored Temps and pressures all good Well worth the effort and a special thanks to all those that assisted with advice and help Gavin Lee Europa XS.....#355.....ZK-EPA 912S with Airmaster prop 7:53 p.m. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.