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0. 12:17 AM - Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... (Matt Dralle)
1. 01:55 AM - Re: fuel pump etc (Robert C Harrison)
2. 03:04 AM - Re: fuel pump etc (Duncan & Ami McFadyean)
3. 06:50 AM - Re: fuel pump etc (Robert C Harrison)
4. 07:54 AM - Starter Motor (rick)
5. 08:44 AM - Re: Starter Motor (Steve Pitt)
6. 09:49 AM - Re: Starter Motor (rick)
7. 09:51 AM - Re: Aileron hinge wear (Terry Seaver (terrys))
8. 10:46 AM - Re: outrigger leg broke (Terry Seaver (terrys))
9. 03:20 PM - trigear (fraser221)
10. 04:31 PM - Re: trigear (Graham Singleton)
11. 04:55 PM - Re: Lithium Polymer start battery (Graham Singleton)
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Hi! Rowland
Don't know about "ahead" of fuel pump for gascolator. But IMHO in
direction of flow terms the gascolator needs to be between tank and pump
(Of course in this context "ahead" may be the same). The last thing you
need in the pump is unfiltered fuel.
Regards
Bob H G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland &
Wilma Carson
Sent: 02 November 2008 22:54
Subject: Re: Europa-List: fuel pump etc
<rowil@clara.net>
At 2008-10-26 20:29 -0400 DuaneFamly@aol.com wrote:
>This is what I did.....
Mike - thanks for the nice pictures. The layout looks neat ....
But shouldn't the gascolator be ahead of the fuel pump in the sequence?
And all the advice I've seen is that the pump wants to be mounted at
45 degrees, or at least have its inlet lower than its outlet.
regards
Rowland
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Subject: | Re: fuel pump etc |
Depends on the type of pump.
A roller-cell pump (914 etc) is very intolerant of dirt (it scores the
traces in the pump). The shuttle type pump (eg Facet) is far more tolerant.
Both types of pump are much better at pushing than pulling; so any partial
blockage of a filter on the suction side will test the ability of the pump
to suck (typically a maximum suction head of 0.6m is quoted for roller cell
pumps; much of this allowance can be used up with high flow rates and the
tortuous plumbing frequently seen). This is asking for trouble, particularly
if Mogas is being used.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert C Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: fuel pump etc
>
> <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Hi! Rowland
> Don't know about "ahead" of fuel pump for gascolator. But IMHO in
> direction of flow terms the gascolator needs to be between tank and pump
> (Of course in this context "ahead" may be the same). The last thing you
> need in the pump is unfiltered fuel.
> Regards
> Bob H G-PTAG
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland &
> Wilma Carson
> Sent: 02 November 2008 22:54
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: fuel pump etc
>
> <rowil@clara.net>
>
> At 2008-10-26 20:29 -0400 DuaneFamly@aol.com wrote:
>
>>This is what I did.....
>
> Mike - thanks for the nice pictures. The layout looks neat ....
>
> But shouldn't the gascolator be ahead of the fuel pump in the sequence?
>
> And all the advice I've seen is that the pump wants to be mounted at
> 45 degrees, or at least have its inlet lower than its outlet.
>
> regards
>
> Rowland
> --
>
>
>
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Hi! Duncan
Yes I understand but of course there is generally a "head" assisting the
suction side of the pumps since they are on the belly plate. My reserve
side is my main fall back system but at least the gascolator filters do
allow for quite a volume of contamination before blocking and regular
water drain checks AND gascolator drain checks should give adequate
insurance.
My previous experiences of blockage was the "dog hair and cloth fibres"
in a bad drilling intersection of the Europa Tank Connectors. Now with
Graham Singleton's connectors fitted at least the "crud" gets through to
the gascolators . I'm no longer using the gauze type finger filters but
brass tubular with many holes drilled and deburred so as not to catch
the fibres etc. Still I had the problem with water and rust which I
believe I picked up in Europe. I use white plastic drums to fill locally
with visual inspection of the drum bottom prior to using one of Alan
Burrows electric pumps which doesn't reach the bottom anyway.
However it still didn't show in the tank water drains. When I ground the
a/c soon for the Mode S fiasco I will have the tank top off and do wipe
out.
At least the gascolators will accommodate a reasonable volume of water
before blocking, if "REASONABLE" IS THE WORD!
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Duncan &
Ami McFadyean
Sent: 03 November 2008 11:04
Subject: Re: Europa-List: fuel pump etc
<ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Depends on the type of pump.
A roller-cell pump (914 etc) is very intolerant of dirt (it scores the
traces in the pump). The shuttle type pump (eg Facet) is far more
tolerant.
Both types of pump are much better at pushing than pulling; so any
partial
blockage of a filter on the suction side will test the ability of the
pump
to suck (typically a maximum suction head of 0.6m is quoted for roller
cell
pumps; much of this allowance can be used up with high flow rates and
the
tortuous plumbing frequently seen). This is asking for trouble,
particularly
if Mogas is being used.
Duncan McF.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert C Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: fuel pump etc
>
> <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Hi! Rowland
> Don't know about "ahead" of fuel pump for gascolator. But IMHO in
> direction of flow terms the gascolator needs to be between tank and
pump
> (Of course in this context "ahead" may be the same). The last thing
you
> need in the pump is unfiltered fuel.
> Regards
> Bob H G-PTAG
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rowland &
> Wilma Carson
> Sent: 02 November 2008 22:54
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: fuel pump etc
>
> <rowil@clara.net>
>
> At 2008-10-26 20:29 -0400 DuaneFamly@aol.com wrote:
>
>>This is what I did.....
>
> Mike - thanks for the nice pictures. The layout looks neat ....
>
> But shouldn't the gascolator be ahead of the fuel pump in the
sequence?
>
> And all the advice I've seen is that the pump wants to be mounted at
> 45 degrees, or at least have its inlet lower than its outlet.
>
> regards
>
> Rowland
> --
>
>
>
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My standard size 912S starter seems to have given up the ghost. To save me
lots of digging can anyone let me know if it is removable with the engine in
situ on the XS.
Thanks in anticipation.
p.s. I'd like to call a DOTH for the Friday of Sun & Fun at the Europa
booth. Normal time.
I'd put a smiley in but can't find them on this computer.
Cheers
Rick
G-RIKS 912S Trike XS
Checked by AVG.
07:46
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Subject: | Re: Starter Motor |
I managed to change the standard to heavy duty starter with no problems
- engine in situ.
I thought the idea of the DOTH was to fly in to an aerodrome - are you
intending to fly in to Lakeland? ! - )
I will be there, though not with 'DH.
Regards
Steve
G-SMDH
----- Original Message -----
From: rick
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 3:52 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Starter Motor
My standard size 912S starter seems to have given up the ghost. To
save me lots of digging can anyone let me know if it is removable with
the engine in situ on the XS.
Thanks in anticipation.
p.s. I'd like to call a DOTH for the Friday of Sun & Fun at the Europa
booth. Normal time.
I'd put a smiley in but can't find them on this computer.
Cheers
Rick
G-RIKS 912S Trike XS
Checked by AVG.
03/11/2008 07:46
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Thanks Steve. Yep on a Virgin 747 I hope. I'll be the one sobbing at the
check in begging for an upgrade!
Cheers
Rick
G-RIKS
_____
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Pitt
Sent: 03 November 2008 16:41
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Starter Motor
I managed to change the standard to heavy duty starter with no problems -
engine in situ.
I thought the idea of the DOTH was to fly in to an aerodrome - are you
intending to fly in to Lakeland? ! - )
I will be there, though not with 'DH.
Regards
Steve
G-SMDH
----- Original Message -----
From: HYPERLINK "mailto:rick@amimotormanagement.co.uk"rick
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 3:52 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Starter Motor
My standard size 912S starter seems to have given up the ghost. To save me
lots of digging can anyone let me know if it is removable with the engine in
situ on the XS.
Thanks in anticipation.
p.s. I'd like to call a DOTH for the Friday of Sun & Fun at the Europa
booth. Normal time.
I'd put a smiley in but can't find them on this computer.
Cheers
Rick
G-RIKS 912S Trike XS
Checked by AVG.
03/11/2008 07:46
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Subject: | Aileron hinge wear |
We added the third hinge, per Kim Prout's suggestion, and installed
teflon tubing on our hinge pins, as described in the following URL.
With over 600 hours now on the plane, we have had no problems with the
aileron hinges. Still tight hinges and no need to lube. We also did
this mod recently on our motor glider wings, which was not that
difficult, once you get the hang of if.
http://terryseaver.home.comcast.net/~terryseaver/N135TD_mods.htm#Teflon_
sleeving_for_hinge_pins
regards,
Terry Seaver
________________________________
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lisbet og
Gert Dalgaard
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 8:13 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Aileron hinge wear
Correct.
A fix for that is to mount teflon-covered pins, but that is hell of a
job ...
/Gert
OY-GDS
Den 22/10/2008 kl. 16.27 skrev Robert C Harrison:
Hi! Gert
The most simple and lightest way!
Except close inspection should prevail to identify any actual
oval holes later in life before the Aileron departs !
Regards
Bob Harrison
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Subject: | outrigger leg broke |
Hi Kevin,
Sorry to hear of your mishap. Kim Prout had an outrigger leg break on
landing at Livermore once. We gave him one of our legs from out kit to
get him home. Fortunately for him, no damage to the prop, etc. We now
keep a spare leg in our plane, just in case.
Regards,
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin
Klinefelter
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 3:58 PM
Subject: Europa-List: outrigger leg broke
Hi All,
While taxiing today on pavement my left outrigger gear leg snapped off.
I pulled the brake, and the Airmaster warp drive blades hit the asphalt
and shredded.
Has anyone heard of an outrigger leg snapping off like that? I thought
they were supposed to bend a lot without breaking.
very sad Kevin
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can anyone tell me if the trigear conversion kit is the same for the xs model as
the classic please.
vic
kit 499
just starting out
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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fraser221 wrote:
>
> can anyone tell me if the trigear conversion kit is the same for the xs model
as the classic please.
>
> vic
> kit 499
> just starting out
Yes
Graham
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Subject: | Re: Lithium Polymer start battery |
Thomas Scherer wrote:
>
> it's probably the new LiFePo battery. Has 12.8 Volts and will handle
> 10 times the number of cycles of a Lipo.
>
> I have found them only here til now (German dealer):
> http://www.lipopower.de/shop/pages-main/category-149/linano-lifepo-fuer-elektroantrieb.html
>
>
> <Thomas>
Thomas
I think I accidentally deleted your email in Mailwasher, could you send
again please?
Graham
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